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Black_Bird

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If you could change one thing about the way in which the US. Government functions, and I mean one *huge* change, not just policy, what would you change?
 
Weaker Federal gov't domestically. I'd transfer more domestic power to the states. Federal programs would be replaced with state run programs and redistributive policies would be at state level. Federal tax funds collected for redistributive programs would be distributed to the states without things like "make sure the drinking age is 21 or we'll cut your funding."
 
i'd MAKE them give me more support on my SpecOps. just b/c i'm not a member of the military or any government agency doesn't mean they can't give me more help when i'm doing their damn dirty work! diplomatic imunity now and then would be nice.
 
and if you don't think that's a huge enough change, give the same to all the rest of the independent contractors the gov't hires, then watch the black book budget area take a little bit of a spike.

think about all the threats to the country and people or organizations we just plain don't like that wouldn't just dissapear if the little extra effort ISN'T given.
 
KillerMuffin said:
Weaker Federal gov't domestically. I'd transfer more domestic power to the states. Federal programs would be replaced with state run programs and redistributive policies would be at state level. Federal tax funds collected for redistributive programs would be distributed to the states without things like "make sure the drinking age is 21 or we'll cut your funding."

Hey KM, doesn't it depend on the state?
It does to me.
In my current state, I would say hell yeah! Give my state more power.
But some of them?
Hell no...
 
Muffin said what I was basically going to say.


That kind of thing enables regional variation in opinion on what is right and wrong, and doesn't try to homogenize the entire country into a bullshit idea that some Armani suit wearing schmuck who fucks prostitutes on our tax dollar wants.

If the people of California, Arizona, Vermont, Kentucky and Ohio want to legalize marijuana it should be fine. If people in Colorado, Utah and Texas want to put you in prison for life for a dime bag of schwag weed, then whatever.

It should be about what the people want, and what better way than to let the people of individual states determine their culture and laws, programs and how the fuding of their money works.
 
KillerMuffin said:
Weaker Federal gov't domestically. I'd transfer more domestic power to the states. Federal programs would be replaced with state run programs and redistributive policies would be at state level. Federal tax funds collected for redistributive programs would be distributed to the states without things like "make sure the drinking age is 21 or we'll cut your funding."

What da broad wit da gun said.

Ishmael
 
WaterNymph said:
Muffin said what I was basically going to say.


That kind of thing enables regional variation in opinion on what is right and wrong, and doesn't try to homogenize the entire country into a bullshit idea that some Armani suit wearing schmuck who fucks prostitutes on our tax dollar wants.

If the people of California, Arizona, Vermont, Kentucky and Ohio want to legalize marijuana it should be fine. If people in Colorado, Utah and Texas want to put you in prison for life for a dime bag of schwag weed, then whatever.

It should be about what the people want, and what better way than to let the people of individual states determine their culture and laws, programs and how the fuding of their money works.

I dunno if I would go quite that far WN.
By that line of reasoning, why not get rid of the entire US of A?
Make every state its own country?

Because if we did, we'd get whiped out, thats why.

The US Govt has to have more power than the individual states.
If it didn't, we wouldn't be a united country. We would be more akin to a bunch of third world countries united by a flimsy treaty or some such.
Within months, things would degrade to the point where we were warring between ourselves, and some other power would come in and take us all over.

But then, thats just my opinion.
 
KillerMuffin said:
Weaker Federal gov't domestically. I'd transfer more domestic power to the states. Federal programs would be replaced with state run programs and redistributive policies would be at state level. Federal tax funds collected for redistributive programs would be distributed to the states without things like "make sure the drinking age is 21 or we'll cut your funding."

The other thing would be to reapeal the admendment that alows for the collection of an income tax, and force the federal government to live on what it could raise through tariffs and fees. An prohibition on the federal goverenment borrowing money for operating expences would fix a lot things as well.
 
KillerMuffin said:
Weaker Federal gov't domestically. I'd transfer more domestic power to the states. Federal programs would be replaced with state run programs and redistributive policies would be at state level. Federal tax funds collected for redistributive programs would be distributed to the states without things like "make sure the drinking age is 21 or we'll cut your funding."

Hmm, this sounds a lot like something I've said; Liberal State, Conservative Federal. In short, I agree. :)
 
what killermuffin said....

dittos....

other things but i choose not to discuss
 
Samuari said:
The other thing would be to reapeal the admendment that alows for the collection of an income tax, and force the federal government to live on what it could raise through tariffs and fees. An prohibition on the federal goverenment borrowing money for operating expences would fix a lot things as well.

Personally, I think income tax should be done away with, and one universal sales tax should be implimented. It's a lot less complicated for the common citizen this way, much less paper work, and (get this) fairer to the blue collar as well as the white collar worker.
 
Re: Re: what killermuffin said....

Black_Bird said:


*Cring*

Must kill Rush...
Hey now.....don't make me sick the El Rushbo on you....


(i ment nothing to do with rush with my post...but now that you mention him)
 
Let's see...

I would like to see both an expansion and streamlining of socialist works, with the government dealing in goods directly rather than in simple cash handouts.
 
Sillyman said:
Let's see...

I would like to see both an expansion and streamlining of socialist works, with the government dealing in goods directly rather than in simple cash handouts.


you have got to be joking....we don't live in The Smurf's Village....real life doesn't believe in sharing....
 
Black_Bird said:


No? Why not?

The Electoral College is what seperates a Republic from a Democracy. The founding fathers understood that a Democracy was no different than 'mob rule'.

The electoral college insures that the presidential candidates must pay as much attention to the less populous states as they do the big cities.

One of the reasons that Gore isn't president today. While he recieved the 'majority' of the vote (barely), he did not meet the criteria of representing the interests of the broader spectra of the citizens. His 'vote by precinct' map shows that he only represented a few of the larger cities. That is not what the country needs. Nor is it fair to those that choose not to live in crime ridden, bad school districts, elitist, big cities.

Ishmael
 
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