Has there ever been a True Story category? Should there be one?

[Hypoxia]

Hi, Hypoxia - gotta disagree with you re incest laws. Adult incest is actually illegal in all 50 US states. There may be countries around the world where it is legal, but it is not legal in the US.

My research showed the definition of incest varying widely re: degrees of consanguinity, step-relatives, familial authority, etc. What's incest HERE isn't necessarily incest THERE.

 

[lovecraft68]

Annoying that any act between two consenting adults should be illegal at all providing they are not hurting each other or others.

I would imagine the few cases that led to arrests were the result of someone finding out their secret and reporting them.

Too bad more people didn't worry about more serious crimes. That guy whacking his wife or kids around? Don't worry about him(especially if he plays in the NFL), but those late thirties siblings who live as a couple, but don't bother anyone, they got to go.

 

[Handley_Page]

A thought;
what makes me suspect that what "true" stories ARE NOT true, given some of the trolls and other comedians to be found ?

 

[CyranoJ]

My research showed the definition of incest varying widely re: degrees of consanguinity, step-relatives, familial authority, etc. What's incest HERE isn't necessarily incest THERE.

Daddies banging their daughters, moms banging their sons, and siblings banging their siblings, and of course aunts/uncles banging their nieces/nephews, however, will qualify in most places. So basically 90% of actual incest fantasy and likely stories. Whoever is jonesing to write about the hot night they had with a woman they later discovered was their second step-cousin-in-law is probably okay.

 

[HuckPilgrim]

Besides, what is truth? As a postmodern, I see it as just a PoV.

Good point! It's exactly right.

But I think the challenge is more for the writer to express this POV without embellishing, rather than identifying any sort of objective truth. For me, it means finding the heart of the story in my life events, which requires some thoughtful analysis about one's life and how to present it as narrative. For example, I probably wouldn't select my first time story based solely on chronology or any particular act, although obviously those are factors to consider. I would base it on what I believe to be the acts, characters and motivations from my life that add up to a good first time story ... for me! It's all very subjective.

I do like the idea of a tag. A category probably won't happen, but I would enjoy working in it, if it did.

Naoko, so good to see you posting on here! Even better, I'm happy to report that I have found a job. I may have a little more time to write and start threads and such on here.

 

[Laurel]

But there would be no way to actually qualify any story as being true other than its placement in a "True Story" category.

Correct. Denoting a story as "True" indicates to the reader that we are verify that the it actually happened, when in fact we have no ability to do so.

If within the body of the story a writer makes claims about the veracity of the tale, that's fine. Literotica, as an erotic fiction site, considers that part of the storytelling.

 

[Laurel]

I do like the idea of a tag.

http://tags.literotica.com/true

 

[lovecraft68]

Half the time even the gender the author claims here isn't true.

 

[CyranoJ]

"All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies."

 

[Hypoxia]

"All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies."

Modern authors are liars with keyboard skills. I read that around here somewhere. Ah, literature. Let's try to tell the truth without bothering with actual facts. Facts can be so tedious. Factoids are much more entertaining. That's what this is all about, entertainment, right? Organizing and occupying our time when we're not doing anything useful. That's entertainment. Lying for profit. Why, that's almost... political.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Actually, most of the readers of Loving Wives believe that all the stories there are true. Go figure.

 

[CharleneBarr]

You mean, truth is stranger than fiction? ... ooh!

 

[Hypoxia]

You mean, truth is stranger than fiction? ... ooh!

Fiction must make sense. Fact is not so limited. Fiction is a tool to organize and neuter untidy facts. And consider contexts: Karl Marx's DAS KAPITAL is really a novel.

 

[oggbashan]

Autobiographies are supposed to be 'the truth'.

But they aren't 'the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth'.

If you are writing your own life story you select, edit, improve and omit to present your story, not necessarily as lies, but at least as the more interesting parts of your life, generally putting the best interpretation on it.

Even a true incident can vary depending on the way you tell it.

I think a True Story category would be like the Penthouse letters - Do I believe it happened? Or did it happen exactly as described? As Laurel said above, there is no way the author, the site owners or the readers can verify that what is said to be 'true' really is true.

 

[HuckPilgrim]

Autobiographies are supposed to be 'the truth'.

But they aren't 'the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth'.

If you are writing your own life story you select, edit, improve and omit to present your story, not necessarily as lies, but at least as the more interesting parts of your life, generally putting the best interpretation on it.

Even a true incident can vary depending on the way you tell it.

Yes, yes, yes! This is all true.

It's implicit challenge of writing memoir, isn't it?

 

[HuckPilgrim]

I think a True Story category would be like the Penthouse letters - Do I believe it happened? Or did it happen exactly as described? As Laurel said above, there is no way the author, the site owners or the readers can verify that what is said to be 'true' really is true.

I'm surprised the truth of the story is even an issue for the site.

I can see Laurel having to take responsibility to ensure no one posts something like an underage story. But false claims in memoir? That's a pretty high standard.

 

[Hypoxia]

Then there was the time the then-President's mother got me drunk. True, but who'll believe me?

 

[Mister_Chris]

A possible solution

It has occurred to me that there is perhaps a solution to proving the reality of an experience.

If a Literotica member were to have a sexual encounter with another Literotica member... and they both signed a note, and submit it to Laurel... then that could be considered proof of reality.

So, if SR71plt were to have a sexual encounter with... oh, I don't know - maybe Trip Dalton, or somebody - and they collaborated on the story together, and submitted it to Laurel, and signed a note... well, I think we'd have to accept that as reality.

I dunno. It was just a thought.

>MC

 

[sr71plt]

It has occurred to me that there is perhaps a solution to proving the reality of an experience.

If a Literotica member were to have a sexual encounter with another Literotica member... and they both signed a note, and submit it to Laurel... then that could be considered proof of reality.

So, if SR71plt were to have a sexual encounter with... oh, I don't know - maybe Trip Dalton, or somebody - and they collaborated on the story together, and submitted it to Laurel, and signed a note... well, I think we'd have to accept that as reality.

I dunno. It was just a thought.

>MC

I already collaborate on stories with Literotica member Sabb under the name Shabbu.

And if it's enhanced/embellished/whatever erotica autobiographies you're after (as have been discussed here), you could always trace back to the book featured in my current avatar (which is largely available in segments on Literotica).

I think a large number of everyone's stories here have a chunk of the author embedded in them.

 

[TxRad]

I've already solved the problem of "True" stories. I call it my "Memories of" series.

True stories from my past as I remember them. Are they all truth? Only I know for sure but they are pretty close. Anyway, the truth is usually boring.

 

[Hypoxia]

It has occurred to me that there is perhaps a solution to proving the reality of an experience.

If a Literotica member were to have a sexual encounter with another Literotica member... and they both signed a note, and submit it to Laurel... then that could be considered proof of reality.

And of course, LIT authors and wannabes would never lie about that. Right.

 

[edwalu2]

My only story on here so far is a true story, and it's been pretty well received. I can't help thinking that if it was in a True Story category though, it would be less so.

You only have to look at the Loving Wives section to see how many people angrily confuse their sense of personal morality with that of an anonymous writer or indeed their characters...and those are blatant fictions! Goodness knows what sort of comments you'd get in a True Story category, regardless of people questioning their veracity.

 

[lovecraft68]

I've already solved the problem of "True" stories. I call it my "Memories of" series.

True stories from my past as I remember them. Are they all truth? Only I know for sure but they are pretty close. Anyway, the truth is usually boring.

Not just boring, but....sometimes awkward and a comedy of errors.

Maybe sometime I should work into a story something I've done like try to go "porn star" and pull out , jump up to my feet on the bed to...ahem do some "painting" and...

Fall off the bed onto the floor.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I've already solved the problem of "True" stories. I call it my "Memories of" series.

True stories from my past as I remember them. Are they all truth? Only I know for sure but they are pretty close. Anyway, the truth is usually boring.

The rest of us know, too.

 

[HuckPilgrim]

You only have to look at the Loving Wives section to see how many people angrily confuse their sense of personal morality with that of an anonymous writer or indeed their characters...and those are blatant fictions! Goodness knows what sort of comments you'd get in a True Story category, regardless of people questioning their veracity.

Good point. This sort of response to fiction seems unique to erotica, or maybe it's just unique to this place. It's pretty crazy!