Help how to write this according to the rules.

[inSOmnya]

Hi, I'm writing a story, and I submitted the first part, and it was rejected for underage sex;

[[Pedro had never been kissed, he was not expecting this and didn't know what to do. But after an awkward moment, Sofia didn't retreat and kissed again, this time not a peck, this time a loving and long kiss, until the end of the bus trip there were no more words, only kisses and exchanges of meaningful silences. Pedro imagined so many scenarios, but not this one, they both went home that day with a lot to think and process.]]As our submission FAQ states, we do not accept stories involving people under the age of 18 in explicitly described sexual situations. This includes but is not limited to talking explicitly about sex, voyeurism, exhibitionism, fantasizing, masturbation, eroticized birth, and graphic sexualized descriptions, in addition to actual sexual intercourse. This also includes explicit flashbacks/past remembrances, descriptions of an underage person’s body/physical development and/or the reaction of other people to it; references to people under the age of 18 “playing doctor” or “sex education”. Please see this FAQ for more information:

The story doesn't contain any underage sex, explicit or implicit, in a flashback I described the first time two characters kissed, both underage, they never went further or I describe any fantasy or desires beyond that, and I never describe or imply anything else. These flashbacks are important to the context of the whole story. I need some help to rewrite this in a safe manner. I hope pasting the rejection here doesn't break any forum rules, if it does, please tell me or delete the post, but I'm really stuck here and I don't know how tu surpass this.

Thanks

PS: I don't live in the US and maybe I'm not used to the guidelines and costumes, in Portugal, where I live, the age of consent is 16 and we are more open about sex and we don't have strict rules about underage sex, drinking smoking, that's all part of growing up.

 

[WittyUserName]

Hi, I'm writing a story, and I submitted the first part, and it was rejected for underage sex;


The story doesn't contain any underage sex, explicit or implicit, in a flashback I described the first time two characters kissed, both underage, they never went further or I describe any fantasy or desires beyond that, and I never describe or imply anything else. These flashbacks are important to the context of the whole story. I need some help to rewrite this in a safe manner. I hope pasting the rejection here doesn't break any forum rules, if it does, please tell me or delete the post, but I'm really stuck here and I don't know how tu surpass this.

Thanks

PS: I don't live in the US and maybe I'm not used to the guidelines and costumes, in Portugal, where I live, the age of consent is 16 and we are more open about sex and we don't have strict rules about underage sex, drinking smoking, that's all part of growing up.

Lit's under 18 rule is absolute. You'll have to cut that part. I know another author who had something sent back for just kissing. It's strict, but I suppose it's that way to help make sure they're consistent. All you can do is work within Lit's rules. That part unfortunately needs to go for this site to post.

 

[BeechLeaf]

(1) Your text that you quote does not mention their ages. It is possible you said elsewhere they were 15 or 16 and that has been automatically rejected by some combination of a bot or a quick scan. The administration doesn't have time to read carefully and make individual decisions on fine points.

(2) Or if the problem is in that quoted text, it might be in 'this time not a peck, this time a loving and long kiss'. Possibly a small amount of light kissing can be mentioned, but not anything intense like this.

 

[Writer61]

The story doesn't contain any underage sex, explicit or implicit, in a flashback I described the first time two characters kissed, both underage, they never went further or I describe any fantasy or desires beyond that, and I never describe or imply anything else. These flashbacks are important to the context of the whole story. I need some help to rewrite this in a safe manner. I hope pasting the rejection here doesn't break any forum rules, if it does, please tell me or delete the post, but I'm really stuck here and I don't know how tu surpass this.

Could they just have looked at each other? And perhaps something else that stopped them from following through.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

I'm confused, both by what in the excerpt that the OP provided was deemed inappropriate, as well as by comments claiming that the underage rule here is "strict" or "absolute".

More than half of my published works here would have been rejected if this was the case. I have published multiple scenes where teens have kissed, cuddled, teased, and tempted each other prior to turning 18 and it has never been an issue. In fact, I'm working on one right now that chronicles the relationships of a guy through his lifetime. There is mention of a girl sharing her gum with him in the seventh grade (age around 13) when they were kissing as a means of describing the French kiss taking place. My past experience tells me that this will be fine here.

We don't have the full context from which the excerpt was taken, but if it doesn't get any steamier than what was shown, I would be messaging Laurel for an explanation.

 

[IWroteThis]

The general rule seems to be that you can mention their first kiss happening, but you can't describe it. That middle sentence described an extended makeout session, which I'm not surprised pushed you over the limit.

 

[inSOmnya]

(1) Your text that you quote does not mention their ages. It is possible you said elsewhere they were 15 or 16 and that has been automatically rejected by some combination of a bot or a quick scan. The administration doesn't have time to read carefully and make individual decisions on fine points.

(2) Or if the problem is in that quoted text, it might be in 'this time not a peck, this time a loving and long kiss'. Possibly a small amount of light kissing can be mentioned, but not anything intense like this.

It' not in the quoted text but it is explained that they were 16 and 17 at that time.

 

[BeechLeaf]

Whenever you submit anything that might trigger rejection but you think shouldn't, point it out explicitly in the admin note when you submit: e.g. X and Y are 16 and 17, and they kiss, but nothing else happens. This should (often) be enough to inoculate against fast bot rejection.

 

[WittyUserName]

I'm confused, both by what in the excerpt that the OP provided was deemed inappropriate, as well as by comments claiming that the underage rule here is "strict" or "absolute".

More than half of my published works here would have been rejected if this was the case. I have published multiple scenes where teens have kissed, cuddled, teased, and tempted each other prior to turning 18 and it has never been an issue. In fact, I'm working on one right now that chronicles the relationships of a guy through his lifetime. There is mention of a girl sharing her gum with him in the seventh grade (age around 13) when they were kissing as a means of describing the French kiss taking place. My past experience tells me that this will be fine here.

We don't have the full context from which the excerpt was taken, but if it doesn't get any steamier than what was shown, I would be messaging Laurel for an explanation.

I'm surprised to hear this. I know an author who was firmly rejected for having teens kiss. Odd.

 

[onehitwanda]

My first draft of "On the Simplicity of Words" was kicked back for the two protagonists sharing an underage kiss. The rule is, to all intents and porpoises, absolute.

 

[NotWise]

Do you know that the quoted passage is what triggered the rejection? To me, that passage isn't explicit enough to justify rejection. It doesn't even mention arousal.

 

[WittyUserName]

My first draft of "On the Simplicity of Words" was kicked back for the two protagonists sharing an underage kiss. The rule is, to all intents and porpoises, absolute.

That's what I thought, but sounds like some people have gotten around it multiple times.

 

[PennyThompson]

The simplest solution is to just "age up" everything. They had their first steamy kiss when they were 18-year-old seniors in high school. They have sex the summer after graduation, or a couple of years later while in college.

It really wouldn't change anything meaningful about the plot, plenty of kids are late bloomers including me

 

[onehitwanda]

The simplest solution is to just "age up" everything. They had their first steamy kiss when they were 18-year-old seniors in high school. They have sex the summer after graduation, or a couple of years later while in college.

It really wouldn't change anything meaningful about the plot, plenty of kids are late bloomers including me

The words "Late Harvest" are now running around my head and won't stop.

 

[PennyThompson]

The words "Late Harvest" are now running around my head and won't stop.

harvest me wanda i'm ripe for the picking

 

[onehitwanda]

harvest me wanda i'm ripe for the picking

Today's Oglaf is so, so relevant...

also we talked about this - no making me snortlaugh when my mouth is full.

 

[BeechLeaf]

The content guidelines definitely DO NOT mention or prohibit kissing as such (any more than they do holding hands). The closest they approach is in the mention of 'graphic sexualized descriptions', which could apply to intense kissing. I suspect that is what is being rejected here, and elsewhere that people have mentioned - aided by the pressure the administration is under to quickly approve or reject, rather than think about doubtful cases. Make it clear in an admin note.

 

[Bamagan]

harvest me wanda i'm ripe for the picking

I see a lot of threshing and grinding in your future.

 

[WittyUserName]

The words "Late Harvest" are now running around my head and won't stop.

I didn't have my first kiss until I was 20.

 

[Bamagan]

It' not in the quoted text but it is explained that they were 16 and 17 at that time.

It's entirely possible that the story simply got flagged for those ages being mentioned and they didn't have time to read through and confirm that any sex occurs after an appropriate time jump, so they rejected it as a precaution. The same thing can happen in a story where explicit ages aren't mentioned at all but the characters are referred to as teens or high schoolers: for legal reasons, if nothing else, the site can't afford to allow ambiguity about under-18s, regardless of what the age of consent is anywhere else.

 

[Writer61]

The application of the rules can be inconsistent.

Unaware of the rules, I included an underage scene in one of my first stories, which got through. Although it was less explicit, a later submission got pinged. I rewrote to make the MC over 18 but still in school.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

To my perception the passage is broad enough to imply that more than kissing just happened?

I honestly don't see any problem there, but it's worth a thought on that angle.

My money is in numbers being mentioned though, if such thing happened in your manuscript.

 

[inSOmnya]

My first draft of "On the Simplicity of Words" was kicked back for the two protagonists sharing an underage kiss. The rule is, to all intents and porpoises, absolute.

But the rule only mention "talking explicitly about sex", I only mention and describe kissing.

Do you know that the quoted passage is what triggered the rejection? To me, that passage isn't explicit enough to justify rejection. It doesn't even mention arousal.

Yes, that was the rejection message I got.

 

[onehitwanda]

But the rule only mention "talking explicitly about sex", I only mention and describe kissing.

https://www.literotica.com/resources/content-guidelines

Sexual activity involving characters under the age of 18 (including but not limited to explicit sexual discussion, voyeurism, exhibitionism, fantasizing, masturbation, and graphic sexualized descriptions, in addition to actual sexual intercourse).

Literotica has always had a strict policy against any under-18 content, and any attempt to violate that policy is grounds for account termination.

 

[PennyThompson]

also we talked about this - no making me snortlaugh when my mouth is full.

sorry ma'am, i can wait until you're done eating before asking you to harvest me...