Help with AI rejection?

[storyteller92]

I have been writing a Greek Myth series along side a dubious anti-hero story about a womanizer.
My womanizer story goes up, no problem. But every time I try to post my myth series story, it gets flagged for AI or it just sits in the pending folder. My myth series is meticulously gone over by me before I send it. I check spelling and grammar, but also run it through FOUR AI detectors.
These are the ones I use:
GPT Zero, Sapling, QuillBot, and UnDetectable.
The biggest difference between the two stories between two (outside of length and genre) is spell check. Do I need to start allowing more errors in my longer stories so they get through? What is the answer here? I would love to know what everyone thinks. What bugs me the most about my most recent upload is that it is just a consolidation of an already published story. I think the only thing I added was an Author's Note section. Otherwise, it is beat for beat the same story, so I don't know what to do.
I will listen to all advice.

 

[ElectricBlue]

What bugs me the most about my most recent upload is that it is just a consolidation of an already published story. I think the only thing I added was an Author's Note section. Otherwise, it is beat for beat the same story, so I don't know what to do.
I will listen to all advice.

That could be the problem. The vetting system might be finding the same content, and is automatically rejecting your latest version.

Why are you doing what you're doing, and how are you doing it?

If it's already been published, why don't you leave it alone and move on to another story. That way you'll have another story. All you're doing here is futzing with the presentation of an existing story. What's the point of doing that if the story hasn't changed?

 

[storyteller92]

Why are you doing what you're doing, and how are you doing it?

If it's already been published, why don't you leave it alone and move on to another story. That way you'll have another story. All you're doing here is futzing with the presentation of an existing story. What's the point of doing that if the story hasn't changed?

I am updating the story, which is something you can do to consolidate your stories. I realized that having them in parts when my stories are closer to novel/novellas could be complicated and daunting to newcomers, so I plan to post the entirety of the stories. That makes it easier for people to read them, and for them to be all there. No one needs to scroll chapter by chapter to figure out where they are

 

[Dreamerman77]

My recent experience with AI rejection was with 750 word challenge story. It got rejected twice being written by AI.

It was written with word and standard spell checking and grammar corrections was used. No AI.

After the first rejection I ran it through several AI detectors, with various results and I rephrased some sentences that were flagged by the checkers. And resubmitted and got another rejection.

Then I rewrote the whole story on notes and did only manual grammar check (being that English is not my first language, there was mistakes.) I even left obvious grammar mistakes in the text on purpose. And it got accepted.

Sounds stupid and could be a wrong interpretation, but is the text is mistake free, then it gets flagged.

 

[Bamagan]

My recent experience with AI rejection was with 750 word challenge story. It got rejected twice being written by AI.

It was written with word and standard spell checking and grammar corrections was used. No AI.

After the first rejection I ran it through several AI detectors, with various results and I rephrased some sentences that were flagged by the checkers. And resubmitted and got another rejection.

Then I rewrote the whole story on notes and did only manual grammar check (being that English is not my first language, there was mistakes.) I even left obvious grammar mistakes in the text on purpose. And it got accepted.

Sounds stupid and could be a wrong interpretation, but is the text is mistake free, then it gets flagged.

The grammar check feature on Word, for at least the last several iterations, goes beyond simply flagging actual grammatical errors. It follows the same general 'stylistic' algorithm that AIs use to compose sentences, and it will suggest a host of changes for reasons like 'clarity'. It rarely likes adverbs, for example, and a word choice that falls too far outside the list of the top 25,000 (or 40,000, or whatever) will also get disapproval.
I don't know what tool(s) Lit employs for AI detection, but if I were to open up a story in Word and it didn't react negatively to a lot of stylistic choices, I'd be inclined to believe the author took the grammar checker's advice for granted. No, they didn't use AI to write the story, but their credulity allowed it to get over-polished, making the final product harder to distinguish from an actual mechanized creation. At that point, I believe the Site errs on the side of doubt and rejects it, or else Laurel has to do more than just skim the story to get a feel for it, leading to long pending times.

 

[Dreamerman77]

The grammar check feature on Word, for at least the last several iterations, goes beyond simply flagging actual grammatical errors. It follows the same general 'stylistic' algorithm that AIs use to compose sentences, and it will suggest a host of changes for reasons like 'clarity'. It rarely likes adverbs, for example, and a word choice that falls too far outside the list of the top 25,000 (or 40,000, or whatever) will also get disapproval.
I don't know what tool(s) Lit employs for AI detection, but if I were to open up a story in Word and it didn't react negatively to a lot of stylistic choices, I'd be inclined to believe the author took the grammar checker's advice for granted. No, they didn't use AI to write the story, but their credulity allowed it to get over-polished, making the final product harder to distinguish from an actual mechanized creation. At that point, I believe the Site errs on the side of doubt and rejects it, or else Laurel has to do more than just skim the story to get a feel for it, leading to long pending times.

Agreed, but point being not accepting any rewrite suggestions from word. Spelling mistakes and grammar issues like missing comma's. Still AI checkers identify AI generated text where there are none. Highly unreliable programs in my opinion.

 

[Dreamerman77]

I have been writing a Greek Myth series along side a dubious anti-hero story about a womanizer.
My womanizer story goes up, no problem. But every time I try to post my myth series story, it gets flagged for AI or it just sits in the pending folder. My myth series is meticulously gone over by me before I send it. I check spelling and grammar, but also run it through FOUR AI detectors.
These are the ones I use:
GPT Zero, Sapling, QuillBot, and UnDetectable.
The biggest difference between the two stories between two (outside of length and genre) is spell check. Do I need to start allowing more errors in my longer stories so they get through? What is the answer here? I would love to know what everyone thinks. What bugs me the most about my most recent upload is that it is just a consolidation of an already published story. I think the only thing I added was an Author's Note section. Otherwise, it is beat for beat the same story, so I don't know what to do.
I will listen to all advice.

I did a simple test with one of the detectors you mentioned. Wrote two sentences that came to mind, what could be part of the story. 100% AI generated

 

[storyteller92]

I did a simple test with one of the detectors you mentioned. Wrote two sentences that came to mind, what could be part of the story. 100% AI generated

This is why I have been struggling. Undetectable is one of the more demanding AI detectors, but when I edit (alter) the text to get through that detector, Sapling flags my passages. It feels like if the text is grammatically correct, there is no right answer to get past each one. I came through as mostly human (over 90%) on Three of them, but them came in 60ish unweighted average on Sapling. But then, when I went over it 300 words at a time on a 30K story, it comes out to about 78%. Between the 4, the average came out to (92% likely human) and my story sits in the pending folder. I have two more I want to publish, but since the story is in chronological order, there is nothing I can do until this story gets approved.