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[SpeareChucker]

You think that the POCs are catching on to the hierarchy of victimhood
and the implied color gradations/rankings (politically)?


Yellow is a color, but if they are viewed as totem,
they're in on the ground level...


However, if it weren't for
yellow, red would be
basement dwellers.

 

[Conager]

According to what I’ve found, African Americans account for 13.4% of the population, whites account for 76.5% (census statistic).

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

According to the FBI, African Americans accounted for 27.2% of criminal arrests in 2017, whites accounted for 68.9% (FBI table 43, crime distribution according to race).

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43

Following those statistics, which clearly show that per capita crimes are being committed at twice the rate, the increased level of interactions between African Americans and police officers can’t be reduced to “profiling”.

The same chart shows that whites folks are a thieving and rapey bunch, whereas African Americans tend to gravitate more towards being a murderous lot.

Most studies/comparisons I see tend to leave little details such as “per capita”.

Just saying.

https://imgur.com/a/oEzkG6e

Even that is overly broad. Crime, especially violent crime is not being committed by Black women so you can cut that number in half. Less than half because girls have higher birth rate in boys and boys have higher mortality. Especially in the black community where they have a very low life expectancy, partially because that number is being drug way down because of the large numbers of young black men who are killed in gang murders. The number one reason for preventive death among young black males is murder. That's a pretty shocking statistic. I think for young white males it's motor vehicle accidents.

You can parse it down much further. You can pretty much eliminate the 2/3 of black males that have no criminal record at all.

That leaves less than 2% of the population in the category of black snakes with preexisting criminal records committing half of the most serious crimes. Those crimes are being committed primarily in predominantly black neighborhoods against black victims.

A few clear-headed prominent blacks have rightly pointed out that the communities want and need better, more cooperative policing, not less policing.

 

[BrokenBarbie]

I went with broad strokes and was feeling generous.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I covered that.

More cops per square inch in black neighborhoods. I also covered the reason that is so, higher incidences of reported crime. Police resources are allocated where crime is anticipated. This is not because they think that any particular black (includinv the 30% of whom have felony records) is "about" to commit a crime but because they are well aware of where gang activity is taking place from tagging on the low end, to murder at the peak of the risk pyramid.

If a particular zip code has a dozen attempted murders every weekend and a few of those attempts are successful, they are going to have crime scenes to rope off, potential witnesses to interview, and minor criminals to find, arrest, and apply pressure to.

You know, like the sort of thing you "progressives" cheered when they overstepped that process with Flynn.

You cant just favor aggressive policing and investigative techniques when it helps your political goals. Black victims of crimes deserve effective police response, too.

You anti-police nuts whinge about the effect that stepped up police presence in black neighborhoods has on the frequency of police contact, the possibility of cops stumbling across "crimes" that I think we can all agree are lower priority, and prosecution and incarceration rates. These are all valid concerns.

Lost in that, though, is the disparate number of black victims of all sorts of crimes. That is occurring even with the stepped up police presence. Scaling back police presence would make that worse, not better.

If there were a spike in crime in a predominantly white area, no one would be suggesting a lower level of policing. They would be demanding increased patrols and additional officers assigned.

"During 2012-15, the rate of white-on-white violent crime
(12.0 per 1,000 white persons) was about four times higher
than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of
black-on-black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 black persons)
was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent
crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic
violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about
double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and
black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with
violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple
assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than
interracial victimizations."

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6106

Note when you police on a racial profile you will end up charging more people with crimes from that race. Which is why most forces outside the US have stopped using racial profiling as a reason to stop and search an individual who otherwise is not outwardly acting in a criminal manner.

 

[Conager]

You think that the POCs are catching on to the hierarchy of victimhood
and the implied color gradations/rankings (politically)?


Yellow is a color, but if they are viewed as totem,
they're in on the ground level...


However, if it weren't for
yellow, red would be
basement dwellers.

As Asians have excelled as did Jews, the Irish, and Italians before them, they lose minority victim status. Asians are doing so in exactly the same way that the Jews, the Irish, and the Italians did before them.

Hispanics are showing up bird mobility right behind the Asians.

That blacks are lagging because they are not following the model that other ethnic groups have used to rise out of poverty.

The evidence is irrefutable that it has nothing to do with systemic racism or the fact that people look at a black face in assume lower levels of competency or are directly oh pressing people out of some sort of racial animus.

It was noticed that recent, black arrivals from Africa, South America, and the Caribbean were outperforming native-born Blacks. To eliminate the idea that accents and the self-respecting nature of the hard driving recent immigrant who came here with a drove and a plan, they looked at second generation. Still out-performong Blacks born in the big blue cities.

It's culture, and the leading indicator is two parent homes and the age and educational level of the mother. Control for those factors and "systemic racism" goes away entirely. Fate doesn't care what color you or your mom is if she is young, singke, poor, and uneducated.

 

[Conager]

"During 2012-15, the rate of white-on-white violent crime
(12.0 per 1,000 white persons) was about four times higher
than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of
black-on-black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 black persons)
was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent
crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic
violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about
double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and
black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with
violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple
assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than
interracial victimizations."

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6106

Note when you police on a racial profile you will end up charging more people with crimes from that race. Which is why most forces outside the US have stopped using racial profiling as a reason to stop and search an individual who otherwise is not outwardly acting in a criminal manner.

You LEPT to racial profiling from statistics staring you in the face that show why increased police presence is needed in predominantly black communities.

There aren't more black criminals because police are "profiling" and are therefore catching black criminals and letting white criminals get away. If anything the opposite is true: blacks are far less likely to be caught and prosecuted than whites because they're is far less cooperation within the community with witnesses coming forward. The solve rate on black homicides is abysmal. You have it completely backwards.

Don't let the statistics that you just quoted interfere with the things that you "know" to be true that quite obviously aren't.

 

[SpeareChucker]

As Asians have excelled as did Jews, the Irish, and Italians before them, they lose minority victim status. Asians are doing so in exactly the same way that the Jews, the Irish, and the Italians did before them.

Hispanics are showing up bird mobility right behind the Asians.

That blacks are lagging because they are not following the model that other ethnic groups have used to rise out of poverty.

The evidence is irrefutable that it has nothing to do with systemic racism or the fact that people look at a black face in assume lower levels of competency or are directly oh pressing people out of some sort of racial animus.

It was noticed that recent, black arrivals from Africa, South America, and the Caribbean were outperforming native-born Blacks. To eliminate the idea that accents and the self-respecting nature of the hard driving recent immigrant who came here with a drove and a plan, they looked at second generation. Still out-performong Blacks born in the big blue cities.

It's culture, and the leading indicator is two parent homes and the age and educational level of the mother. Control for those factors and "systemic racism" goes away entirely. Fate doesn't care what color you or your mom is if she is young, singke, poor, and uneducated.

I call BS on that because this is exactly what this is all about -
white Progressive America sees themselves as the only way
black people can be lifted out of their systemic bondage,
when in reality, that bondage is opposed on them by
their champions, that aforementioned soft bigotry.

They don't expect blacks to use their bootstraps,
they absolutely need hands out for handouts.
It's one of the pillars of the American
Progressive movement...

 

[BrokenBarbie]

I call BS on that because this is exactly what this is all about -
white Progressive America sees themselves as the only way
black people can be lifted out of their systemic bondage,
when in reality, that bondage is opposed on them by
their champions, that aforementioned soft bigotry.

They don't expect blacks to use their bootstraps,
they absolutely need hands out for handouts.
It's one of the pillars of the American
Progressive movement...

In short: “We know you can’t save yourselves, but don’t worry, put/keep us in power and WE will rescue you from yourselves.”

 

[SpeareChucker]

In short: “We know you can’t save yourselves, but don’t worry, put/keep us in power and WE will rescue you from yourselves.”

That's another way to put it.

"You're handicapped by systemic Racism [and we are the system])!"

 

[BrokenBarbie]

“Give a man a fish......”

Of course, if you also corner the market on fishing poles...

 

[hogjack]

It's culture, and the leading indicator is two parent homes and the age and educational level of the mother. ...Fate doesn't care what color you or your mom is if she is young, singke, poor, and uneducated.

This is accurate. Broken families makes it that much more difficult to succeed no matter what "color" of the skin.

That doesn't mean it is impossible, of course, and many successful people of all races and national originas do so from these "disadvantaged" environments.

However, overall, "strong" families with a father (or father figure) as a contributing member is a key element. The rising black middle class figured it out. Many black leaders have also been preaching the message either from the pulpit, academia, or elsewhere.

 

[hogjack]

white Progressive America sees themselves as the only way
black people can be lifted out of their systemic bondage

Very true. The worst enemy of black people are the ultra liberals who have intentionally made generations dependent on government, pushed the message that blacks are not capable of being successful without help, and stayed on message that everyone is racist and against blacks.

This has empowered (and made rich) the white liberals and the usual crowd of racist screamers (you know the names, not gonna mention these leaches).

The worst school systems are in the Democrat run cities where corruption is rampant and legions of administrator have become rich. Blacks have been stuck in those crappy systems which is why unions fight hard against giving them options to move out of the system.

 

[Rightguide]

BLM really seems to draw out the Hillbilly Racist element. The nerve of those Negroes!

It's BLM that is racist.

 

[Lancedalot]

A queer thing about you mentioning racism, Rapeboi...you seem to be under the hilarious assumption that nobody remembers how you used to talk.

Or how you would talk if you knew you could get away with it. Under your old names. Funny how they're not around anymore. I wouldn't burn this one out on shit you couldn't care less about if I were you.

It's nice though, that I'm giving you a reason to have a conversation since nobody else worth talking to wants to talk with you. However, do not mistake this for me giving a shit about your opinions or what you think.

Now fuck off on your motorized tricycle to your lakehouse, your neighbor's daughters are waiting for you to ogle them through your binocs.

Some simply bask in their ignorance.

You proudly revel in yours.

:thumbsup