High School.

[smoothg103rd]

Yup. Which is kind weird but I seriously did love that dog. And it's not like I fucking love cops or anything. She was a genuinely sweet critter.

But they never caught the guys who shot her. She wasn't shot on the job, it was a drive-by while she was playing in her yard. Some pillhead pissed about the fact that drug dogs exist. I, like everybody else am like 90% sure I know who it was, but there was no proof.

Killing a dog and getting time as if you killed a cop or a person is bullshit. I could step on a roach and kill it but if I kick a cat is animal abuse? I can hunt and shoot a deer in the head but if I fight dogs it's animal abuse? That's BULLSHIT!

 

[CandiCame]

Killing a dog and getting time as if you killed a cop or a person is bullshit. I could step on a roach and kill it but if I kick a cat is animal abuse? I can hunt and shoot a deer in the head but if I fight dogs it's animal abuse? That's BULLSHIT!

If you fight deer it's animal abuse too. There are butcher laws. Why don't you try just not being an asshole?

 

[Que]

I was in High School at the time (end of the 60s) and the way the grand experiment worked out for us was 9-week courses. Some of the courses, in theory were really cool, but in reality, most of it was overview and because you had the same teachers, you had no real expertise in most of the courses although the combined golf and archery class were kinda cool, at one end of the practice field you had archers loosing at golfers at the other end who were furiously hacking balls back towards the archers.

I was quite young when I bought a house a few blocks from a major university. I made only $7.50 and hour so it would take me 100 hours just to pay the mortgage payment. I actually lived almost for free though, because I rented rooms to college students. Mostly grad students.

I learned a lot about what education isn't. One was going for a master's degree in industrial audiology. His master's thesis was to take foam ear plugs and install them backwards to see if there was any measurable difference in effectiveness.

All of the changes to education happen because someone is working on their PhD and come up with some hair-brained "study" or project that is identifiably different from what is currently done for their thesis. The guy overseeing it and the idiot student have to, for the moment, believe their bullshit to sell it to the panel reviewing their bullshit study. These are lazy, pot-smoking students that are about to get cut off from mommy and daddy, or, more likely these days Uncle Sugar. None of these "studies" end up abject failures because of their dumb premise. Some portion of it ends up being wise and noble, else why do it?

They get their doctorate, and society gets another nonsensical "study" that some other nimrod takes seriously, and decides to implement, as if all of the data was not made up from whole cloth b the lazy, pot-smoking grad student.

 

[smoothg103rd]

If you fight deer it's animal abuse too. There are butcher laws. Why don't you try just not being an asshole?

I'm not trying to be a asshole. I'm just saying, I could shoot a deer and kill it. But if I fight two deer and they live I will go to jail? Cmon Candi that's kinda fucked up.

 

[CandiCame]

I'm not trying to be a asshole. I'm just saying, I could shoot a deer and kill it. But if I fight two deer and they live I will go to jail? Cmon Candi that's kinda fucked up.

One of those is a clean death, the other is torture. If you torture a human you get more time than for a clean kill too. It makes perfect sense. Deer aren't super bright but they have a peripheral nervous system. They can feel pain. There's no reason to torture them. If you want venison go for it. Go get the deer- but you can't even do that without permits and licenses and whatnot. You aren't allowed to even just go indiscriminately kill the deer. Generally you're limited on that. I think there was a 2-buck limit last season, if I'm remembering right. Might have been more. I know there was a two tom turkey limit because that kinda pissed me off. I fucking love me some turkey. Turkey's my favorite meat.

Edit: And deer generally aren't service animals so you probably wouldn't go to jail, you'd just be fined.

Edit: Seriously I fucking LOVE turkey. Is that racist? I feel like that's racist. But that shit is good. And you can make /anything/ out of it. And it's kind of sort of healthy. Healthier than beef at least.

 

[CandiCame]

I was quite young when I bought a house a few blocks from a major university. I made only $7.50 and hour so it would take me 100 hours just to pay the mortgage payment. I actually lived almost for free though, because I rented rooms to college students. Mostly grad students.

I learned a lot about what education isn't. One was going for a master's degree in industrial audiology. His master's thesis was to take foam ear plugs and install them backwards to see if there was any measurable difference in effectiveness.

All of the changes to education happen because someone is working on their PhD and come up with some hair-brained "study" or project that is identifiably different from what is currently done for their thesis. The guy overseeing it and the idiot student have to, for the moment, believe their bullshit to sell it to the panel reviewing their bullshit study. These are lazy, pot-smoking students that are about to get cut off from mommy and daddy, or, more likely these days Uncle Sugar. None of these "studies" end up abject failures because of their dumb premise. Some portion of it ends up being wise and noble, else why do it?

They get their doctorate, and society gets another nonsensical "study" that some other nimrod takes seriously, and decides to implement, as if all of the data was not made up from whole cloth b the lazy, pot-smoking grad student.

Oh, I never got a chance to tell you that I like your new avatar.

 

[smoothg103rd]

One of those is a clean death, the other is torture. If you torture a human you get more time than for a clean kill too. It makes perfect sense. Deer aren't super bright but they have a peripheral nervous system. They can feel pain. There's no reason to torture them. If you want venison go for it. Go get the deer- but you can't even do that without permits and licenses and whatnot. You aren't allowed to even just go indiscriminately kill the deer. Generally you're limited on that. I think there was a 2-buck limit last season, if I'm remembering right. Might have been more. I know there was a two tom turkey limit because that kinda pissed me off. I fucking love me some turkey. Turkey's my favorite meat.

Edit: And deer generally aren't service animals so you probably wouldn't go to jail, you'd just be fined.

Edit: Seriously I fucking LOVE turkey. Is that racist? I feel like that's racist. But that shit is good. And you can make /anything/ out of it. And it's kind of sort of healthy. Healthier than beef at least.

It just doesn't make sense to me. It's the same way I feel about drugs. Meds are a billion dollars a year business selling pills that have the same thing heroin has in it. That are having the same affect as coke and dope, but its legal. Why because the government gets a cut? But if I was to sell drugs, I'm a menace to society. Why because the government isn't getting a cut? #BULLSHIT. I can't fight dogs because the government isn't getting a cut. But I could shoot a animal in cold blood because they is? (I don't fight dogs. I'm just taking a stand for the people that do)

 

[CandiCame]

It just doesn't make sense to me. It's the same way I feel about drugs. Meds are a billion dollars a year business selling pills that have the same thing heroin has in it. That are having the same affect as coke and dope, but its legal. Why because the government gets a cut? But if I was to sell drugs, I'm a menace to society. Why because the government isn't getting a cut? #BULLSHIT. I can't fight dogs because the government isn't getting a cut. But I could shoot a animal in cold blood because they is? (I don't fight dogs. I'm just taking a stand for the people that do)

No, that's not why you can't fight dogs. You can't fight dogs because it is amoral and animal rights lobbyists have successfully campaigned to prevent that type of insane cruelty so that we don't have to go around punching people in the face quite as frequently. The government loses money on animal rights, it doesn't make money. They have to pay for an animal control division of local government, which comes out of their budget. They have to pay to prosecute offenders. We need MORE stringent animal cruelty laws- we desperately need the existing laws to be extended to livestock animals and the government won't do that because they don't have the money. There is no government 'dog fighting' czar like there is a drug czar.

The licensing fees from hunting licenses, which I assume is what you were talking about there, don't really make the government any money. They make a dent in the amount of people able to hunt that year. It's about protecting the animals and controlling the population, not about raising money. That's why they're so inexpensive. It's to get your name in the registry because only so many licenses are given out each year. If you thin the herds too much you get below the viable population threshold and then no one gets any venison next year. It's to track you.

 

[Que]

It raises a lot of money. Money from tags and fishing licenses pretty much funds all of the game and fish and a lot of the other great-outdoors services. If not for hunting and fishing there would be no money to take care of all of that.

 

[smoothg103rd]

No, that's not why you can't fight dogs. You can't fight dogs because it is amoral and animal rights lobbyists have successfully campaigned to prevent that type of insane cruelty so that we don't have to go around punching people in the face quite as frequently. The government loses money on animal rights, it doesn't make money. They have to pay for an animal control division of local government, which comes out of their budget. They have to pay to prosecute offenders. We need MORE stringent animal cruelty laws- we desperately need the existing laws to be extended to livestock animals and the government won't do that because they don't have the money. There is no government 'dog fighting' czar like there is a drug czar.

The licensing fees from hunting licenses, which I assume is what you were talking about there, don't really make the government any money. They make a dent in the amount of people able to hunt that year. It's about protecting the animals and controlling the population, not about raising money. That's why they're so inexpensive. It's to get your name in the registry because only so many licenses are given out each year. If you thin the herds too much you get below the viable population threshold and then no one gets any venison next year. It's to track you.

Hunting in general makes money. But since you didn't say anything about the drugs I guess we are in agreement there?

 

[smoothg103rd]

Crimes are only crimes if the crime doesn't benefit the government. Just like I could go to war and kill a million motherfuckers. But if I shoot a nigga to protect my family, I'm a criminal.

 

[CandiCame]

It raises a lot of money. Money from tags and fishing licenses pretty much funds all of the game and fish and a lot of the other great-outdoors services. If not for hunting and fishing there would be no money to take care of all of that.

It's like $15? It can't make much.

Jesus Christ, I just looked it up and apparently the state made $31,000 from licensing fees. So. I am /wrong/. We must have a lot of hunters. That's insane.

OH WAIT I KNOW WHAT IT IS

It's the elk! You have to pay like $100 for the elk lottery! That's where we make our money. Elk.

I feel smart. Bounced back quick.

 

[CandiCame]

Hunting in general makes money. But since you didn't say anything about the drugs I guess we are in agreement there?

What?

Edit: Oh drugs, I misread that. Yeah, I actually did. I expressed disdain about the fact that the drug czar exits. We've talked about this smooth. You know my stance on how stupid I think the "war on drugs" is.

Basically, in a capitalist society, if I have a product, there is a demand for that product, and someone has money with which to purchase that product, there's no real reason for me not to sell it to them. I'm willing to pay taxes on such business ventures. I think it should be regulated like alcohol. Maybe slap a label on there like alcohol too, something like "Methamphetamines are known to cause birth defects; do not operate machinery while taking, etc etc." Or whathaveyou. But for a free society to tell consenting adults what they can and can't put in their bodies is insane.

 

[smoothg103rd]

What?

Edit: Oh drugs, I misread that. Yeah, I actually did. I expressed disdain about the fact that the drug czar exits. We've talked about this smooth. You know my stance on how stupid I think the "war on drugs" is.

Basically, in a capitalist society, if I have a product, there is a demand for that product, and someone has money with which to purchase that product, there's no real reason for me not to sell it to them. I'm willing to pay taxes on such business ventures. I think it should be regulated like alcohol. Maybe slap a label on there like alcohol too, something like "Methamphetamines are known to cause birth defects; do not operate machinery while taking, etc etc." Or whathaveyou. But for a free society to tell consenting adults what they can and can't put in their bodies is insane.

I do drugs so I forgot. So I guess we are in agreement then.

 

[CandiCame]

I do drugs so I forgot. So I guess we are in agreement then.

Except if I catch you dog fighting I will fight you. Which isn't that big of a threat but still. You will be inconvenienced. And I look white so I can probably have you arrested.

 

[Que]

It's like $15? It can't make much.

Jesus Christ, I just looked it up and apparently the state made $31,000 from licensing fees. So. I am /wrong/. We must have a lot of hunters. That's insane.

OH WAIT I KNOW WHAT IT IS

It's the elk! You have to pay like $100 for the elk lottery! That's where we make our money. Elk.

I feel smart. Bounced back quick.

Our state gets a lot more than that. A million or more maybe? Then again we have millions in population.

 

[CandiCame]

Our state gets a lot more than that. A million or more maybe? Then again we have millions in population.

We probably get more than that too. I just scanned it. I was just shocked it was that much because a hunting license for a year is seriously like $10 for a kid and $15 for an adult. It's so fucking cheap. You can get a lifetime license when you're little and you just have to register for your deep permits or your turkey permit or whatever and that makes it even cheaper. Plus I tend to just hunt on my own land, which is cheaper than going on-site. There are ways to get around most of it.

Edit: I meant /deer/ permit, not /deep/ permit. Deep permit sounds like a bad porno. "I don't have $15, Mr. Clerk, but I really need a turkey to feed my starving family- isn't there some /other/ way I could pay?"

*bow chicka wow wow*

 

[smoothg103rd]

Except if I catch you dog fighting I will fight you. Which isn't that big of a threat but still. You will be inconvenienced. And I look white so I can probably have you arrested.

I don't dog fight. I been to a couple of fights tho. My father and them breed and fight dogs, so I been around some good ones. I like dogs too much for me to be into that type of shits. Cats I will fight myself, I hate them sneaky lil bitches. But dogs are too loyal for me to ever dishonor their trust.

 

[CandiCame]

I don't dog fight. I been to a couple of fights tho. My father and them breed and fight dogs, so I been around some good ones. I like dogs too much for me to be into that type of shits. Cats I will fight myself, I hate them sneaky lil bitches. But dogs are too loyal for me to ever dishonor their trust.

You dad sounds like an asshole. My dad is also an asshole. Damn it, smooth. Quit growing on me.

 

[smoothg103rd]

You dad sounds like an asshole. My dad is also an asshole. Damn it, smooth. Quit growing on me.

What can I say, I'm not all bad once you get to know me a little. But seriously I'm just big on loyalty. If I'm with you and 100 guys are after you and we run but you get caught I'll come back for you. If we can't get away together, then we get our ass beat together. And I feel like dogs are like that too. They protect who they love, just like me. I be feeling bad how they treat dogs. I seen a dog get shot because he lost a lot of money. But what can I do? I'm not superman and I don't try to be. I just control what I have control over.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I'm kind of amazed people had such shitty times in high school. I enjoyed mine, honestly. I didn't realize how many people disliked it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't dog fight. I been to a couple of fights tho. My father and them breed and fight dogs, so I been around some good ones. I like dogs too much for me to be into that type of shits. Cats I will fight myself, I hate them sneaky lil bitches. But dogs are too loyal for me to ever dishonor their trust.

Your father is a punk ass loser.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm kind of amazed people had such shitty times in high school. I enjoyed mine, honestly. I didn't realize how many people disliked it.

Same here. I enjoyed high school and college. I figured some folks didn't, but I'm surprised at the number of folks who felt that way.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Killing a dog and getting time as if you killed a cop or a person is bullshit. I could step on a roach and kill it but if I kick a cat is animal abuse? I can hunt and shoot a deer in the head but if I fight dogs it's animal abuse? That's BULLSHIT!

Smoothie, honestly your a poster child for why the gene pool needs some bleach.

 

[WildBill2015]

Did you win anything in High School. Like prom queen, most popular, best dress and etc?

I was my class's Prince for the Valentines Day dance. In all honesty, I shouldn't have been. I was a pretty average kind of guy. But my GF was popular, pretty, and hot.