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gtnlynn said:
Whoa! I base my beliefs on the teachings of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount and as found in Matthew 25:31-46. That's where I get the idea that we are supposed to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, etc.
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Yea YOU are.....robbing other people to do it, isn't part of the deal.

gtnlynn said:
Goodbye, we obviously will never agree.
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Yea communism isn't compatable with Christianity....you and the other pro-sin and using scripture to justify stealing folks are going to have to pick a side eventually.
 
Wilson23 said:
Neither is non-Communism.
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Sure there are. Capitalism is very much in line with Christianity.

Same with arming and defending yourself and the innocent who can't. Another lefty thing among many that flies in the face of Christianity.
 
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Chadrone said:
Didn't say it was, I said your logic was bad and your theological knowledge doesn't eixst.
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Logic?

There's no "logic" involved in religion!

That's why religion has been called "Philosophy with the questions left out."
 
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Theology
magine two nerds arguing about which would win in a fight: the Enterprise or a Star Destroyer.[note 1] [The Enterprise can fight while moving faster-than-light, but a Star Destroyer is much heavier and can microjump much more rapidly than the Enterprise can move at warp (and is both bristling with weapons and carrying a lot of TIE fighters). If you're asking "Which Enterprise? And what kind of Star Destroyer?", then you probably have a hang of the dilemma.] And then imagine that they were part of groups that had been arguing over these questions for centuries and had exhaustively documented everything. Finally, imagine that some of them considered what they were arguing about to be things that not only actually existed, but were literally more important than life and death (others just enjoy arguing). Madness? This. Is. Theology!
 
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Christians negatively affect my life -- and yours too, Deplorables -- whenever they vote Republican.
 
I have zero issues with true Christian cults. The issue becomes the judgmental hypocrisy that will evolve.

I still go to mass, I still volunteer, but I also feel that all places of worship should pay taxes, specifically the mega churches where the pastors have mansions, cars and planes.

Did you know a pastor from a mega churches also owns a vineyard in France?
 
Wilson23 said:
It will take longer, but islam is going away too.
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Islam is the world's fastest-growing major religion, with its numbers increasing significantly due to high fertility rates, especially in regions like Asia-Pacific and Sub-Saharan Africa, making Muslims the second-largest religious group after Christians and projected to potentially surpass them in the future. From 2010 to 2020, the Muslim population grew by 347 million, more than all other religions combined, and by 2020, Muslims made up over 25% of the global population.

In other words, not going away any time soon. Stop posting your crazy guesses as truth. Lol. :)
 
Chadrone said:
Sure there are. Capitalism is very much in line with Christianity.
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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christian_economics
"Evangelicals interpreted the mental anguish of poverty and debt, and the physical agony of hunger or cold, as natural spurs to prick the conscience of sinners. They believed that the suffering of the poor would provoke remorse, reflection, and ultimately the conversion that would change their fate."
— [1]
Christian economics is a combination of theology and economics that attempts to biblically justify a strict laissez-faire free market system, which makes it the opposite of actual Christianity.
The term "Christian economics" itself is highly misleading in that it doesn't refer at all to economic thought endorsed by Christians in general - Christian Reconstructionist circles most often use the phrase to refer to their own brand of ultra-right-wing economic thought. In the United States, its leading proponent is probably Gary North, who founded the Institute for Christian Economics (ICE).[2] While organizations such as the Foundation for Economic Education and the Ludwig von Mises Institute aren't dedicated to Christian economics, they have published numerous works by North and his followers.

Christian economics draws largely on Dominionist theology with a side order of Austrian-school economics and other libertarian economic thought. Thus it tends to come packaged with attendant economic crankery, such as support for the gold standard, extreme anti-labor positions, and opposition to the Federal Reserve.

Sincere and perceptive classical-period economic experts put together the written Bible[citation needed] roughly between 6,000 and 2,000 years ago, so inevitably, strangely enough, not everything in the Bible suits the modern world. When a modern tax or other institution helps poor people at the expense of rich people, right-wing proponents of Christian economics declare it unbiblical. Modern institutions that favor rich people are not similarly condemned - even if they have no Biblical foundation. [3]

What Would Did Jesus Do?
The irony is that nothing in Christian economics seems to gel with most mainstream versions of Christianity or what was taught by Jesus. By most readings of the Bible, Jesus believed it was important to give to the poor, help feed and clothe them, and heal them when possible - not when productive. It is important to note here that Jesus appears to have never traded in mortgage derivative markets. In addition, Revelation 6:6 seems to refer to absentee landlords — a thing that modern-day capitalism has no problems with — wreaking havoc by vastly prioritizing cash crops over local feeding, with the havoc shown through the fourth horseman and his attendant Pestilence and Death.

Jesus also stated fairly emphatically that "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."[4] This verse is in the club of Famous Words Everybody Ignores, along with "Congress shall make no law...". Several sites on the internet offer the idea that Jesus was only giving an example of pure perfection, and that no one need actually try to obtain such perfection other than Jesus,[5] or that it only related to this one individual man who turned down a chance to walk by Jesus' side.[6]

If these explanations strike you as unrealistic, then you may have a brain stem. However, many Christians are so used to living with the constant cognitive dissonance that this logical jump seems to them like the height of reasonableness.
 
Cecilia Giménez, the greatest artist in the history of Christianity, died yesterday.

Attempted_restoration_of_Ecce_Homo.jpg
 
Wilson23 said:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christian_economics
"Evangelicals interpreted the mental anguish of poverty and debt, and the physical agony of hunger or cold, as natural spurs to prick the conscience of sinners. They believed that the suffering of the poor would provoke remorse, reflection, and ultimately the conversion that would change their fate."
— [1]
Christian economics is a combination of theology and economics that attempts to biblically justify a strict laissez-faire free market system, which makes it the opposite of actual Christianity.
The term "Christian economics" itself is highly misleading in that it doesn't refer at all to economic thought endorsed by Christians in general - Christian Reconstructionist circles most often use the phrase to refer to their own brand of ultra-right-wing economic thought. In the United States, its leading proponent is probably Gary North, who founded the Institute for Christian Economics (ICE).[2] While organizations such as the Foundation for Economic Education and the Ludwig von Mises Institute aren't dedicated to Christian economics, they have published numerous works by North and his followers.

Christian economics draws largely on Dominionist theology with a side order of Austrian-school economics and other libertarian economic thought. Thus it tends to come packaged with attendant economic crankery, such as support for the gold standard, extreme anti-labor positions, and opposition to the Federal Reserve.

Sincere and perceptive classical-period economic experts put together the written Bible[citation needed] roughly between 6,000 and 2,000 years ago, so inevitably, strangely enough, not everything in the Bible suits the modern world. When a modern tax or other institution helps poor people at the expense of rich people, right-wing proponents of Christian economics declare it unbiblical. Modern institutions that favor rich people are not similarly condemned - even if they have no Biblical foundation. [3]

What Would Did Jesus Do?
The irony is that nothing in Christian economics seems to gel with most mainstream versions of Christianity or what was taught by Jesus. By most readings of the Bible, Jesus believed it was important to give to the poor, help feed and clothe them, and heal them when possible - not when productive. It is important to note here that Jesus appears to have never traded in mortgage derivative markets. In addition, Revelation 6:6 seems to refer to absentee landlords — a thing that modern-day capitalism has no problems with — wreaking havoc by vastly prioritizing cash crops over local feeding, with the havoc shown through the fourth horseman and his attendant Pestilence and Death.

Jesus also stated fairly emphatically that "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."[4] This verse is in the club of Famous Words Everybody Ignores, along with "Congress shall make no law...". Several sites on the internet offer the idea that Jesus was only giving an example of pure perfection, and that no one need actually try to obtain such perfection other than Jesus,[5] or that it only related to this one individual man who turned down a chance to walk by Jesus' side.[6]

If these explanations strike you as unrealistic, then you may have a brain stem. However, many Christians are so used to living with the constant cognitive dissonance that this logical jump seems to them like the height of reasonableness.
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Wilson23 said:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christian_economics
"Evangelicals interpreted the mental anguish of poverty and debt, and the physical agony of hunger or cold, as natural spurs to prick the conscience of sinners. They believed that the suffering of the poor would provoke remorse, reflection, and ultimately the conversion that would change their fate."
— [1]
Christian economics is a combination of theology and economics that attempts to biblically justify a strict laissez-faire free market system, which makes it the opposite of actual Christianity.
The term "Christian economics" itself is highly misleading in that it doesn't refer at all to economic thought endorsed by Christians in general - Christian Reconstructionist circles most often use the phrase to refer to their own brand of ultra-right-wing economic thought. In the United States, its leading proponent is probably Gary North, who founded the Institute for Christian Economics (ICE).[2] While organizations such as the Foundation for Economic Education and the Ludwig von Mises Institute aren't dedicated to Christian economics, they have published numerous works by North and his followers.

Christian economics draws largely on Dominionist theology with a side order of Austrian-school economics and other libertarian economic thought. Thus it tends to come packaged with attendant economic crankery, such as support for the gold standard, extreme anti-labor positions, and opposition to the Federal Reserve.

Sincere and perceptive classical-period economic experts put together the written Bible[citation needed] roughly between 6,000 and 2,000 years ago, so inevitably, strangely enough, not everything in the Bible suits the modern world. When a modern tax or other institution helps poor people at the expense of rich people, right-wing proponents of Christian economics declare it unbiblical. Modern institutions that favor rich people are not similarly condemned - even if they have no Biblical foundation. [3]

What Would Did Jesus Do?
The irony is that nothing in Christian economics seems to gel with most mainstream versions of Christianity or what was taught by Jesus. By most readings of the Bible, Jesus believed it was important to give to the poor, help feed and clothe them, and heal them when possible - not when productive. It is important to note here that Jesus appears to have never traded in mortgage derivative markets. In addition, Revelation 6:6 seems to refer to absentee landlords — a thing that modern-day capitalism has no problems with — wreaking havoc by vastly prioritizing cash crops over local feeding, with the havoc shown through the fourth horseman and his attendant Pestilence and Death.

Jesus also stated fairly emphatically that "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."[4] This verse is in the club of Famous Words Everybody Ignores, along with "Congress shall make no law...". Several sites on the internet offer the idea that Jesus was only giving an example of pure perfection, and that no one need actually try to obtain such perfection other than Jesus,[5] or that it only related to this one individual man who turned down a chance to walk by Jesus' side.[6]

If these explanations strike you as unrealistic, then you may have a brain stem. However, many Christians are so used to living with the constant cognitive dissonance that this logical jump seems to them like the height of reasonableness.
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Oh look commiewiki thinks Jesus supported robbery and just ignores reality and assumes that capitalism is exploitative and oppressive......LOL

I notice you can't actually argue your position that Jesus supported violence for equity.
 
Chadrone said:
Oh look commiewiki thinks Jesus supported robbery and just ignores reality and assumes that capitalism is exploitative and oppressive......LOL

I notice you can't actually argue your position that Jesus supported violence for equity.
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So you aren't looking to get the most money from people regardless of your ethics?


Are you even a good capitalist?
 
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