How to destabilize Cuba

An American can get around that by going through a third country. That is very important to the sex-tourism biz, for which all good Litsters should show a tender concern.

But it's not so easy for a Cuban who wants to visit America.

Of course, we could make removal of any such obstacles, by EITHER government, a condition of normalization.

yeah i think americans who do travel to cuba take the longer flights and routes
 
Nobody has yet stated any reason why normalizing relations would not have the effects described in the OP, nor any other reason why it would not be a good idea.
 
Mexico becomes crucial fuel supplier to Cuba but pledges no extra shipments after Maduro toppled

https://apnews.com/article/mexico-c...mp-venezuela-7ec85826c98f23226c2534954b2c2b6f

MEXICO CITY (AP) — As the United States prepares to seize control of Venezuelan oil and the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump hardens its stance toward Cuba, Mexico has emerged as a key fuel supplier to Havana.

It’s a role that could further complicate already strained relations with the Trump administration, even though the Mexican government insists that exports to the island have not increased.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum acknowledged on Wednesday that “with the current situation in Venezuela, Mexico has become an important supplier” of crude oil to Cuba, but asserted that “no more oil is being sent than has been sent historically; there is no specific shipment.”

She added that those shipments are made via “contracts” or as “humanitarian aid,” but offered no concrete figures on the number of barrels exported.
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/...rs-grow-of-economic-collapse-in-cuba-00714716
‘People would attempt to flee’: Concern grows over possible Cuba collapse
The Trump administration is expressing confidence Cuba will fall, but there are concerns the US doesn’t have a plan.

An economic collapse in Cuba, just 90 miles from Florida’s shores, could bring with it stark consequences for the United States, given the high risk of human suffering over lack of food, energy and other resources that could drive mass migration, according to five former U.S. officials who worked on Latin America policy.

And while the Trump administration believes Cuba will fail in the wake of Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro’s capture, there is concern that the U.S. doesn’t have a plan to manage the fallout.

With the Trump administration exerting control over Venezuela, Cuba has lost one of its principal economic patrons and oil suppliers. The island, already in economic dire straits, will face even deeper financial problems unless it finds another government willing to provide it with the oil it once received from Venezuela — the import of which until a week ago it exchanged for money and personnel. Cuba has dodged collapse for decades but Maduro’s capture poses perhaps the greatest threat to the regime since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

And a failed state could lead to an exodus of Cubans looking for refuge in the United States.

“If history is any indication, there would be mass migration, people would attempt to flee,” said Jeffrey DeLaurentis, the former charge d’affaires at the U.S. embassy in Cuba during the Obama and first Trump administrations. “All we have to do is look at the island over the last three or four years.”

That concern has been “an argument against bringing the state down in the absence of something to replace it, because where do the people go?” said Ricardo Zúñiga, one of the architects of the Obama administration’s efforts to reopen relations with Cuba.
 
When I say normalize relations, I mean, of course, drop all trade embargoes. That means no tariffs just at the moment, Donald.

Florida's Big Sugar lobby might object to the potential competition. Big Tobacco wouldn't, cigars are a niche product. Sex tourism would boom, and I'm sure we all want THAT!
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/.../trump-cuba-regime-change-rubio-b2905376.html
Trump aiming for regime change in Cuba by end of year after Venezuela raid: report
Administration reportedly seeking government insiders able to ‘see the writing on the wall’ and prepared to strike a deal to remove Havana’s Communist rulers
President Donald Trump’s administration is planning to orchestrate regime change in Cuba before the end of this year, emboldened by the recent capture of Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela, according to a report.

The administration is “searching for Cuban government insiders who can help cut a deal to push out the Communist regime,” The Wall Street Journal reports, noting that its officials had met with exiles and civic groups in Miami and Washington in the hoping of identifying an official in Havana ready to “see the writing on the wall.”

Trump’s team reportedly do not have “a concrete plan” in place for toppling Cuba’s Communist government, in place since Fidel Castro’s revolutionaries overthrew Fulgencio Batista in 1959, and former Obama administration official Ricardo Zuniga has warned of the difficulty of achieving such a goal.
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/...l-blockade-to-halt-cuban-oil-imports-00744708
Trump administration weighs naval blockade to halt Cuban oil imports
“Energy is the chokehold to kill” the Cuban regime, said a person familiar with the discussions.
The Trump administration is weighing new tactics to drive regime change in Cuba, including imposing a total blockade on oil imports to the Caribbean country, three people familiar with the plan said Thursday.

That escalation has been sought by some critics of the Cuban government in the administration and backed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, according to two of the three people, who were granted anonymity to discuss the sensitive discussions. No decision has been made on whether to approve that move, but it could be among the suite of possible actions presented to President Donald Trump to force the end of Cuba’s communist government, these people added.

Preventing shipments of crude oil to the island would be a step-up from Trump’s statement last week that the U.S. would halt Cuba’s imports of oil from Venezuela, which had been its main crude supplier.

But there are ongoing debates within the administration about whether it is even necessary to go that far, according to all three people. The loss of Venezuelan oil shipments — and the resale of some of those cargoes that Havana used to obtain foreign currency — has already throttled Cuba’s laggard economy. A total blockade of oil imports into Cuba could then spark a humanitarian crisis, a possibility that has led some in the administration to push back against it.

The discussions, however, show the extent to which people inside the Trump administration are considering deposing leaders in Latin America they view as adversaries.

“Energy is the chokehold to kill the regime,” said one person familiar with the plan who was granted anonymity to describe the private discussions. Deposing the country’s communist government – in power since the Cuban revolution in 1959 – is “100 percent a 2026 event” in the administration’s eyes, this person added.
 
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...a-amid-concerns-trump-retaliation-2026-01-23/
Mexico weighs stopping oil shipments to Cuba amid concerns of Trump retaliation, sources say
MEXICO CITY, Jan 23 (Reuters) - The Mexican government is reviewing whether to keep sending oil to Cuba amid growing fears within President Claudia Sheinbaum's administration that Mexico could face reprisals from the United States over the policy, which is a vital lifeline for the Communist-run Caribbean island, according to three sources familiar with the discussions.
A U.S. blockade of oil tankers in Venezuela in December and the dramatic capture of President Nicolas Maduro this month have halted Venezuelan oil shipments to Cuba, leaving Mexico as the single-largest supplier to the island that suffers from energy shortages and mass blackouts.
 
i wonder what cuba thinks of usa since the trump era started in 2016
Cuba was originally designated a state sponsor of terrorism by the United States in 1982 (under Reagan). The designation was removed in 2015 (under Obama). It was redesignated a state sponsor of terrorism in 2021 (under Trump). It was changed back in 2024 (under Biden) and then designated, again, in 2025 (under Trump).

When that designation happens to a country:
https://acere.org/ssot/
https://www.wola.org/analysis/human-cost-cuba-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-list/
 
Cuba was originally designated a state sponsor of terrorism by the United States in 1982 (under Reagan). The designation was removed in 2015 (under Obama). It was redesignated a state sponsor of terrorism in 2021 (under Trump). It was changed back in 2024 (under Biden) and then designated, again, in 2025 (under Trump).

When that designation happens to a country:
https://acere.org/ssot/
https://www.wola.org/analysis/human-cost-cuba-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-list/
Did any of those reclassifications of status correlate with any real increase or decrease of Cuban-sponsored terrorism?
 
Cuba was originally designated a state sponsor of terrorism by the United States in 1982 (under Reagan). The designation was removed in 2015 (under Obama). It was redesignated a state sponsor of terrorism in 2021 (under Trump). It was changed back in 2024 (under Biden) and then designated, again, in 2025 (under Trump).

When that designation happens to a country:
https://acere.org/ssot/
https://www.wola.org/analysis/human-cost-cuba-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-list/

does that mean cuba is not a enemy of usa

even thought all commerial flights from usa to cuba i think are still banned since the 1960s
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026...h-cuba-after-oil-shipment-cancellation-report
Mexico vows ‘solidarity’ with Cuba after oil shipment cancellation reports
The president says Mexico’s decision ‘to sell or give oil to Cuba for humanitarian reasons’ was a ‘sovereign’ one.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum says her country will continue to show “solidarity” with Cuba after media reports that her government halted a shipment of oil to Havana.

Mexico has in recent years become a top supplier of oil to Cuba, which relies on cut-price oil supplies from its allies to survive a US trade embargo and keep the lights on through a severe energy crisis.

Venezuela had been a major supplier of discounted crude to Cuba, but US President Donald Trump said he would halt the shipments after the United States military abducted long-term Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro this month.

As recently as December, Mexico was still sending oil to Cuba, but several media outlets, including Bloomberg and the Mexican newspaper Reforma, have reported that a shipment planned in January was called off.

Sheinbaum refused to confirm or deny the reports on Tuesday. She told reporters during her regular morning news conference that Mexico’s decision “to sell or give oil to Cuba for humanitarian reasons” was a “sovereign decision”.

“It is determined by [Mexican state oil company] Pemex based on the contracts, or, in any case, by the government, as a humanitarian decision to send it under certain circumstances,” Sheinbaum said.

When asked if Mexico would be resuming oil shipments to Cuba, the president sidestepped the question and said, “In any case, it will be reported”. She also said Mexico would “continue to show solidarity” with Cuba.

The Reuters news agency last week reported that the Mexican government was reviewing whether to keep sending oil to Cuba amid growing concerns within Sheinbaum’s government that continuing the shipments could put the country at odds with the US.
 
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