hunting - an alternative pastime to it ...
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Well, I don't have it in me to actually pick up a gun and shoot a deer, but I sure well tear it up if someone put in on my dinner plate. Yum Yum, anyone ever had venison stew? Sorry slut_boy.
But getting back to golden's point whether, hunting has anything to do with it or not, I bet if everyone got a piece (of ass) a day, i do believe the world would be a better, place. People would go to work happy, less road rage, more common courtesy. All I am saying, is give piece a chance.
But getting back to golden's point whether, hunting has anything to do with it or not, I bet if everyone got a piece (of ass) a day, i do believe the world would be a better, place. People would go to work happy, less road rage, more common courtesy. All I am saying, is give piece a chance.
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I for one am in favor of hunting. Why if it weren't for hunting season, I wouldn't even exist!
You see, I'm a hunting accident. Born 9 months after a particularly cold hunting season.
Okay, wait...here are two things to consider:
First one is addressed to Boo. Your doctor versus handgun statistics are a little more than seductive to say the least. For sure you make it sound as though the odds are one out five that doctors are going to fuck up. You have totally misapplied the variables. To see the full picture objectively, you should ask yourself how many people each doctor will treat on average per year and divide that by the number of people who die at the hands of that doctors negligence. Now suddenly the figures are possibly (and obviously this is a guess....but perhaps one in a million as opposed to one in five).
Then ask yourself how many people who are shot by guns survive. The figure there is probably closer to one in five.
First one is addressed to Boo. Your doctor versus handgun statistics are a little more than seductive to say the least. For sure you make it sound as though the odds are one out five that doctors are going to fuck up. You have totally misapplied the variables. To see the full picture objectively, you should ask yourself how many people each doctor will treat on average per year and divide that by the number of people who die at the hands of that doctors negligence. Now suddenly the figures are possibly (and obviously this is a guess....but perhaps one in a million as opposed to one in five).
Then ask yourself how many people who are shot by guns survive. The figure there is probably closer to one in five.
I forgot the second thing: I hope that I haven't been misunderstood (god knows that throughout my life I have misunderstood) as to what I said. The content is fine. I just don't want anybody out there thinking that just because I have my views I condem theirs.
Lash....I am not sure whether your post was directed at me or not. But the truth is that I don't try to ram my veiw down anyone's throat - in fact I tried to say that we all walk our own individual paths. Mine is my karma and yours is yours. To me the right or wrong in the issue is subjective, and truly how I feel. If I could choose one word to project onto this world then it would be "tolerance".
I hope that any misconceptions are gone.
Peace to all,
Slut_boy.
Lash....I am not sure whether your post was directed at me or not. But the truth is that I don't try to ram my veiw down anyone's throat - in fact I tried to say that we all walk our own individual paths. Mine is my karma and yours is yours. To me the right or wrong in the issue is subjective, and truly how I feel. If I could choose one word to project onto this world then it would be "tolerance".
I hope that any misconceptions are gone.
Peace to all,
Slut_boy.
Nah, wasn't directed at you slut_boy. I'll give you credit for at least trying to be understanding of others.
Nope, that was directed at the majority out there who are uni-dimensional and believe that their singular point of view is the correct one.
The fact is that most things we discuss here are multi-dimensional, and in most cases no view point is entirely wrong.
Besides, I'm a Uniter, not a Divider!!
Nope, that was directed at the majority out there who are uni-dimensional and believe that their singular point of view is the correct one.
The fact is that most things we discuss here are multi-dimensional, and in most cases no view point is entirely wrong.
Besides, I'm a Uniter, not a Divider!!
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The fact is that most things we discuss here are multi-dimensional, and in most cases
no view point is entirely wrong.
Besides, I'm a Uniter, not a Divider!!
Amen, and Hallelujah!
If there weren't intelligent people on each side of the argument, there wouldn't be a debate. No one argues for genocide, eh? Well, no one intelligent...
no view point is entirely wrong.
Besides, I'm a Uniter, not a Divider!!
Amen, and Hallelujah!
If there weren't intelligent people on each side of the argument, there wouldn't be a debate. No one argues for genocide, eh? Well, no one intelligent...
Well Laurel, question is: do we have any pre-WWII Germans here....er...what the fuck am I saying. It was only a week ago that Fake Name (God bless his soul) called me a Nazi *laughs at the paradox*
Anyway I am over all of that now *puffs out chest*. Anyway, as someone else pointed out, trolls are less personalities than they are phenomena's on the web.
Laurel, when you mention 'genocide' you touch on a pet project of mine (er, the project is not wiping out entire ethnic groups but rather it concerns the issues of genocide from a human rights point of view). At the moment I am doing some work on some of the international criminal tribunals established for the prosecution of war crimes - what you deal with is frightening and of course very sad.
Finally, thanks Lash for putting my mind at ease.
Anyway I am over all of that now *puffs out chest*. Anyway, as someone else pointed out, trolls are less personalities than they are phenomena's on the web.
Laurel, when you mention 'genocide' you touch on a pet project of mine (er, the project is not wiping out entire ethnic groups but rather it concerns the issues of genocide from a human rights point of view). At the moment I am doing some work on some of the international criminal tribunals established for the prosecution of war crimes - what you deal with is frightening and of course very sad.
Finally, thanks Lash for putting my mind at ease.
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That's so sad, especially because the gorillas in question are the most peaceful, intelligent animals... I dunno if anyone here has ever seen "Adventure Bound with Alby Mangel", but in one episode he went to the jungles of Rwanda with a guide and got to meet and interact with those gorillas... I cried, I really did. People fucking suck.
Laurel, when you mention 'genocide' you touch on a pet project of mine (er, the
project is not wiping out entire ethnic groups but rather it concerns the issues of
genocide from a human rights point of view).
Well, I'm glad you clarified that! lol!!
Laurel, when you mention 'genocide' you touch on a pet project of mine (er, the
project is not wiping out entire ethnic groups but rather it concerns the issues of
genocide from a human rights point of view).
Well, I'm glad you clarified that! lol!!
Sorry, I don't mean to labour the point, but something else (related) which has really touched me is the slaying of gorillas in central Africa. This is a product of the wars in the Congo and in Rwanda.
I have seen some horrific visuals. Soldiers are now making money by hunting these relatives of ours - and selling the meat.More than half the gorilla population has died in the last year, it is estimated. It is terrible to see how the families of these extremely gragarious friends have been broken up. It is a disaster. Man is a disgusting species.
Now I know that there will be many on this BB who won't be saddened by this. Why, well because killing animals is a sport for some of you. A sport - in other words a way of getting amusement. You must look long and hard into your own soul if you get amusement out of killing something.
A kind of paradox huh, guerillas killing gorillas.
I have seen some horrific visuals. Soldiers are now making money by hunting these relatives of ours - and selling the meat.More than half the gorilla population has died in the last year, it is estimated. It is terrible to see how the families of these extremely gragarious friends have been broken up. It is a disaster. Man is a disgusting species.
Now I know that there will be many on this BB who won't be saddened by this. Why, well because killing animals is a sport for some of you. A sport - in other words a way of getting amusement. You must look long and hard into your own soul if you get amusement out of killing something.
A kind of paradox huh, guerillas killing gorillas.
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slut_boy
Not so, that is not sport that is rape for profit. Most sport hunters are more than willing to help with time and money to preserve the very thing they hunt. In this day and age wildlife is threatened more by urban sprawl than hunting. Here the org. Ducks Unlimited builds wetlands and works with land owners to form habitats for water fowl. Across Texas and much of the USA landowners and hunters alike feed and care for deer and wildlife yearround.
Unfortunately those who shake their fingers at the hunters and fishermen never realize who pays to preserve and maintain the wildlife. They fuss and yell about people with guns hurting the wildlife while they live in their big home in the drained wetland , shop in the big mall where the brushland once was, drive on the roads that chop the country into small blocks, and buy cheap food from people cutting down rainforests to grow it.
Things are maintained and preservered by or because of the people who use them not by the ones standing around shaking their finger and wagging their tongue.
If you aint going to eat it dont kill eat. Still I will only eat live pussy of course.
People who hunt just for the fun of it have a problem. Maybe a shrink has the answer to that one
Of course there has to be culling, in the world we have created thats inevitable.
People who hunt just for the fun of it have a problem. Maybe a shrink has the answer to that one
Of course there has to be culling, in the world we have created thats inevitable.
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Well! I was very interested to see everyone point of views on this. I am a vegetarian. But, I come from a family with 12 other children (so far), and I am the only veg. in the family. My father was a fisherman in Alaska, and unfortunately, I did have to help kill, clean and prepare anything he caught...I'm very thankful I don't have anymore. But I think if I hadn't had to, I would think anyone who DOES eat meat is wrong, and I'm right, blah, blah, blah. But, I don't think that.
I don't like hunting, though...maybe I should have just said that instead of all the other shit? LoL. I dunno. But when I was growing up, I always named the deers and bears that were in our backyards. We had two bear cubs that lived with us every summer for six years...they were great! Kishka and and Boomer. Very cool experience. I guess maybe that's why I don't like hunting...but who knows.
I don't like hunting, though...maybe I should have just said that instead of all the other shit? LoL. I dunno. But when I was growing up, I always named the deers and bears that were in our backyards. We had two bear cubs that lived with us every summer for six years...they were great! Kishka and and Boomer. Very cool experience. I guess maybe that's why I don't like hunting...but who knows.
Hi Fallen,
Thanks for responding. I hear what you are saying. The point which you raise (in reply to my posting) is, however, an entirely different one from that raised by me. You are pointing out that some hunters are in fact conservationists and by implication they do good. I can see that argument.
My point, never tried to suggest that some people kill in unjustified circumstances. I think of a person who puts his pet dog down as an act of love - euthenasia. This can easily be distinguished from the person who kills dogs because he gets amusement out of killing them - he thinks that it is a sport, ie. fun.
Now, it is one thing to kill and another to take pleasure in killing. I don't think that it matters whether the act of killing is necessary or not - to me the point is that a person who derives pleasure from killing (no matter what the reason) must look deep into his own soul to find out why he takes pleasure in doing that. Can it ever really be fun to kill something?
Thanks for responding. I hear what you are saying. The point which you raise (in reply to my posting) is, however, an entirely different one from that raised by me. You are pointing out that some hunters are in fact conservationists and by implication they do good. I can see that argument.
My point, never tried to suggest that some people kill in unjustified circumstances. I think of a person who puts his pet dog down as an act of love - euthenasia. This can easily be distinguished from the person who kills dogs because he gets amusement out of killing them - he thinks that it is a sport, ie. fun.
Now, it is one thing to kill and another to take pleasure in killing. I don't think that it matters whether the act of killing is necessary or not - to me the point is that a person who derives pleasure from killing (no matter what the reason) must look deep into his own soul to find out why he takes pleasure in doing that. Can it ever really be fun to kill something?
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Hey slut_boy
I guess I can say "yes" I do enjoy killing at times. I can understand your point of view and sympathize with the feeling of disgust.
Varmints are one of the few things I kill just to kill. When a racoon has one of my ducks and is trying to bite its head off I get off blowing that rascal away. I once let the rattlesnakes live and would even catch them and carry them away from the house. After being bitten by one and spending time in the hospital they are now on my list of kill on sight creatures. (you do know that lawyers and politicians are considered varmints right
okay maybe not human rights lawyers in SA)
I could go into the hunting thing but it won't change your mind or mine. I have known others who wouldn't kill anything living or eat meat etc. Buddhists I believe. Your views don't upset me. It is the hypocrites and people with no common sense that irk me.
You don't protect cows by not eating beef but you can change the way things are raised etc. with your buying power. Much of the medicated feed is gone from the market due to consumer demand (when will you folks learn to quit eating veal). The big chemical companies try and keep a finger in all branches of agriculture and it seems I work as much for them as for the goverment these days. Until we are ready to pay higher prices for food and fiber it will stay this way.
The movie The Lion King had a song that about the circle of life. We, all living things are part of that circle. I may kill a deer to feed my family but in return I feed the deer so that in the future there will be more deer.
I guess I can say "yes" I do enjoy killing at times. I can understand your point of view and sympathize with the feeling of disgust.
Varmints are one of the few things I kill just to kill. When a racoon has one of my ducks and is trying to bite its head off I get off blowing that rascal away. I once let the rattlesnakes live and would even catch them and carry them away from the house. After being bitten by one and spending time in the hospital they are now on my list of kill on sight creatures. (you do know that lawyers and politicians are considered varmints right
I could go into the hunting thing but it won't change your mind or mine. I have known others who wouldn't kill anything living or eat meat etc. Buddhists I believe. Your views don't upset me. It is the hypocrites and people with no common sense that irk me.
You don't protect cows by not eating beef but you can change the way things are raised etc. with your buying power. Much of the medicated feed is gone from the market due to consumer demand (when will you folks learn to quit eating veal). The big chemical companies try and keep a finger in all branches of agriculture and it seems I work as much for them as for the goverment these days. Until we are ready to pay higher prices for food and fiber it will stay this way.
The movie The Lion King had a song that about the circle of life. We, all living things are part of that circle. I may kill a deer to feed my family but in return I feed the deer so that in the future there will be more deer.
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Hate to dredge up this ol' thread, but I read an interesting article in Salon that was relevent and I didn't want to start YET ANOTHER gun thread...lol..
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2000/03/13/guns/index.html
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2000/03/13/guns/index.html
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Interesting quote from the above article:
Consider, for instance, the fact that our non-gun homicide rates
exceed total homicide rates in many nations. In 1990, the murder
and non-negligent manslaughter rate in the United States was 9.3
per 100,000 people, and firearms were used in about two-thirds
of these killings. Even if we had somehow gotten rid not only of
handguns but of all guns, and even if, improbably, none of the
killers who used guns would have substituted some other
weapon, we still would have been left with 3.1 murders for every
100,000 people -- higher than the homicide rate that year in
Canada (2.1 per 100,000), Sweden (1.4) or Japan (0.5).
Obviously, something is going on here other than access to guns.
What's more, over three-quarters of violent crimes other than
homicide in the United States are committed without firearms.
Consider, for instance, the fact that our non-gun homicide rates
exceed total homicide rates in many nations. In 1990, the murder
and non-negligent manslaughter rate in the United States was 9.3
per 100,000 people, and firearms were used in about two-thirds
of these killings. Even if we had somehow gotten rid not only of
handguns but of all guns, and even if, improbably, none of the
killers who used guns would have substituted some other
weapon, we still would have been left with 3.1 murders for every
100,000 people -- higher than the homicide rate that year in
Canada (2.1 per 100,000), Sweden (1.4) or Japan (0.5).
Obviously, something is going on here other than access to guns.
What's more, over three-quarters of violent crimes other than
homicide in the United States are committed without firearms.
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