If Americans were ever offered a real choice between LW and RW . . .

[KingOrfeo]

It's the left wing types who spit on returning veterans . . .

Cite?

 

[KingOrfeo]

I rest my case.. since you just said they are a minor player in the sceme of things it is probably a good bet that nothing will change.

No, I said they are a minor player in the Democratic Party. The "scheme of things" left of the Pubs encompasses a lot more than that.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Cite?

how many hours do you waste, each and every day here on GB?


don't you have any pride or ... humanity? what will be your mark on the world when your retard ass dies ... you c&p socialist derp bullshit on this web site?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Cite?

Here is an example. I can find many others, if I want to take the time.
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/160444095.html

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Typical leftist bullshit. No "honest" discussion of race is going to begin with one side agreeing to the many false premises contained in the over inflated talking points of the racist left. No "honest" discussion of race is going to begin by requiring one side to ignore the contributions that minority racism adds to the problem. Any honest discussion of race in America has to begin with the Left and the Democrat Party admitting to its own complicity in creating policies that divide the races for political gain.

Easy. An "honest discussion about race" would begin with admitting and noting all the various ways racism still exists in American society, and how it affects people's lives, and proceed to discussing why it exists, and what can or cannot be done to put an end those various ways.

So -- you're saying there are no such ways any more?

Seriously?

Is that the hill you want to die on? Think carefully.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

First off we have to decide what racism is. It isn't one group of citizens saying they think affirmative action is unconstitutional. It could be however an elitist politically calculated view, containing the racist notion that black people, as a demographic, can't help themselves and would react favorably at the polls to a political initiative designed to benefit them financially, and then justify it by suggesting that the white majority demographic of today be taxed to support it based on historical anecdotes that haven't existed for over a hundred years.

^^^ White resentment, ladies and gentlemen. White resentment.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

^^^ I'm just a jealous hater, ladies and gentlemen. I'm a fat old White man too lazy to get out of my lazy boy.

there I fixed it for you

 

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[KingOrfeo]

First off we have to decide what racism is. It isn't one group of citizens saying they think affirmative action is unconstitutional.

That is racism, certainly (regardless of whether the constitutional arguments are defensible or not, racism and not strict-constructionism always motivates them); but it also comes in many forms less self-aware and less obvious.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

That is racism, certainly (regardless of whether the constitutional arguments are defensible or not, racism and not strict-constructionism always motivates them); but it also comes in many forms less self-aware and less obvious.

fucktard asshat ... you are a welfare racist asshole

 

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[KingOrfeo]

So when the SCOTUS ruled against affirmative action it was racist in doing so, eh?

Wouldn't go that far, but whoever brought the case was.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by vetteman View Post

So when the SCOTUS ruled against affirmative action it was racist in doing so, eh?

Wouldn't go that far, but whoever brought the case was.

The people who bring the cases are usually people who believe, probably correctly, they were shafted because of their race. An example was a man named Bakke. He applied to the U. of Mich. medical school and was qualified enough to be accepted but was rejected because the U had to admit more members of "Protected Groups." Was he a racist because he didn't want to get fucked over because of race?

 

[PoppingTom]

First off we have to decide what racism is.

That's right.

Thing is we'll hardly find an agreement here. For me, racism begins with race questions or dscussions about races, except the discussion is about the racism that a special race faces in reality.

It could be however an elitist politically calculated view, containing the racist notion that black people, as a demographic, can't help themselves and would react favorably at the polls to a political initiative designed to benefit them financially, and then justify it by suggesting that the white majority demographic of today be taxed to support it based on historical anecdotes that haven't existed for over a hundred years.

And I think it's racist to assume that.

In the end, everybody has to pay taxes, even Blacks. And everybody can benefit from goverment welfare, even white people. It's racist to assume whites get overtaxed and Blacks are overwelfared. You have every right in the world to doubt any government spending, question is: are you really worried about the effect of that spending? Or are you ENVY it ?

 

[PoppingTom]

Some of them were. At least that is their announced goal.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party

The New Black Panther party rarely speaks for millions of Blacks. Just like no white racist speaks for me.

But, off course, they use the rage of young people for advocating racism.

 

[KingOrfeo]

It's racist to assume whites get overtaxed and Blacks are overwelfared.

It's a common assumption in the U.S. Goes back to Reconstruction, in fact, when there was little welfare to speak of.

http://www.vrml.k12.la.us/bergeron/Class%20Projects/Reconstruction/cartoons/Freedman's_bureau.jpg

 

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[PoppingTom]

You prove my point right there, no white person can talk about black people in any way without it being racism.

Well, I can. Because I'm not generalizing.

There's a difference if you talk about Black people, or about the Black race. The negro, or the Blacks.

This is how liberals indemnify black folks from any kind of criticism, or any talk they define as criticism.

Show me the group of people that likes and accepts criticism on the likes of themselves. We all have reasons to act like we do. Liberals can accept that, and are voted for that by the majority of Black people. It's your fault if you can't. What do you criticize Black people as a demographic?

So in your mind Littlefinger was racist for starting his thread about racial healing, right, or is he black and therefore exempt from a charge of racism? I guess that ends this discussion, since the mere mention of race is racist in Germany.

Actually, "Racial healing" was about racism. That's what Littlefinger mentioned in his first post. His assumption that there is racial hate that has to be healed is wrong. Racism is an agenda, it's that kind of powerplay I'll never accept, not even in nuances, as it's inhuman in its manifestation.

So yes, discuss about races, no matter how, and I call you racist. Talking about Black people as a demographic is a society thing, it can be changed, even if it neeeds time. Races or genetics can't, so don't discuss about it. It's racist.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The New Black Panther party rarely speaks for millions of Blacks. Just like no white racist speaks for me.

But, off course, they use the rage of young people for advocating racism.

I can't say with certainty, but I believe the NBPP has more adherents now than the KKK does, although they are both relatively small organizations. The latter, in its heyday, was almost entirely Democrats, but the new generation has shunned them and they were never popular with the GOP.

 

[PoppingTom]

I can't say with certainty, but I believe the NBPP has more adherents now than the KKK does, although they are both relatively small organizations.

I believe that. The KKK is notorious and more and more outlawed. The branding of the NBPP is much better, the old Black Panthers were never seen as bad as the KKK.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I can't say with certainty, but I believe the NBPP has more adherents now than the KKK does, although they are both relatively small organizations.

Well, there's more than one "Klan" organization. The SPLC estimates their total membership at 5,000 to 8,000. The NBPP picture is murkier:

As of 2009, the NBPP claimed a few thousand members organized in 45 chapters, while independent estimates by the Anti-Defamation League suggest that the group is much smaller but is nevertheless able to attract a large turnout of non-members (some of whom may not even realize what this group actually stands for) to its events by focusing on specific issues of local interest.[13]

 

[NeverEndingMe]

the obama slaves ... and their view on the world....


we need welfare because working is just too damn hard