Immediate Termination for Pantelao

The firing is appropriate. He should be in some other line of work. His entire purpose was to try to submit EG by choking him out. City settled for over $5 Mil. because risk of losing more justified it. Mother lost a son. Over illegal sale of cigarettes. Nobody wins here.
 
The firing is appropriate. He should be in some other line of work. His entire purpose was to try to submit EG by choking him out. City settled for over $5 Mil. because risk of losing more justified it. Mother lost a son. Over illegal sale of cigarettes. Nobody wins here.

Meanwhile NYPD officers get doused with water and no one is arrested and charged because the officers know the City won't support them against criminals.

With a political climate like that, it's no wonder the City paid the claim and fired the officer.
 
in 'less civilized' countries, he'd already have been executed for murder. in the u. s., he gets fired.
 
The firing was appropriate because Pantaleo didn't follow NYPD protocol and used choke hold to restrain a suspect who had health issues that contributed to his death. As a cop he had over 200 arrests including many that required restraint with no other indications of abuse. To suggest that he is a "murderer" is at the very least unfair. With that said he does not deserve to wear the badge
 
That was a bad police work even if he the suspect didn't die. Those cops are lucky they didn't all go crashing through the store window trying to take down a 300 & lbs guy.
 
Meanwhile NYPD officers get doused with water and no one is arrested and charged because the officers know the City won't support them against criminals.

That police Commissioner ought to be fired for not backing his officers in the above situations. I'd love to see them walk off the job.
 
The police commissioner bent over backwards to back up police officers in the face of the available evidence. It's on video. Pantelao sustained the choke hold when he'd taken the man to the ground. It's not like this was the end of a chase from a robbery scene gone bad where five people were murdered and the guy had a gun he wouldn't drop.

I think it would be the right thing for the police commissioner to resign, though. It would save him a lot of grief and damp down the fallout from other directions (to some extent).
 
The firing was appropriate because Pantaleo didn't follow NYPD protocol and used choke hold to restrain a suspect who had health issues that contributed to his death. As a cop he had over 200 arrests including many that required restraint with no other indications of abuse. To suggest that he is a "murderer" is at the very least unfair. With that said he does not deserve to wear the badge


you reinforce my point. there is a broad spectrum of results that could have been. at the very least, he's guilty of manslaughter. firing him now is just a little and too late.
 
Meanwhile NYPD officers get doused with water and no one is arrested and charged because the officers know the City won't support them against criminals.

With a political climate like that, it's no wonder the City paid the claim and fired the officer.

Actually there have been numerous arrests for such conduct in NYC; once again, you're all wet.
 
Actually there have been numerous arrests for such conduct in NYC; once again, you're all wet.


Not at the time of the events. So tell us, windy woody, what code section mandates that the police just walk away while they're being assaulted and attacked by a mob and NO ONE comes to their aid?

Perhaps they know, by the preponderance of all the evidence, that the City doesn't actually have their back. Because if Pantelao HAD committed a "crime" he would have been prosecuted for it. He wasn't. Instead he was fired by the City that wouldn't stand behind him for doing his job.

You think NYPD officers don't know this is the way things work in The City?
 
Not at the time of the events. So tell us, windy woody, what code section mandates that the police just walk away while they're being assaulted and attacked by a mob and NO ONE comes to their aid?

Perhaps they know, by the preponderance of all the evidence, that the City doesn't actually have their back. Because if Pantelao HAD committed a "crime" he would have been prosecuted for it. He wasn't. Instead he was fired by the City that wouldn't stand behind him for doing his job.

You think NYPD officers don't know this is the way things work in The City?

Pretty much.

It's a sad thing that an individual lost their life for selling loose cigarettes. But just some observations on the situation. First of all he resisted arrest. The officer's involved have no idea WHY he was resisting arrest. Did he have outstanding warrants and for what? Was he armed? Of course we know, after the fact, that he didn't but there was no way an officer could have known at the time. It seems that these days no one wants to walk in that officers shoes.

It is also outrageous that civil juries are so prone to giving the taxpayers money away. The City settling for $5 mil. is outrageous, but that a jury probably would have awarded more in a civil trial is beyond the pale.

Why anyone would want to be a cop these days is beyond my reckoning.
 
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The City settling for $5 mil. is outrageous, but that a jury probably would have awarded more in a civil trial is beyond the pale.

Why anyone would want to be a cop these days is beyond my reckoning.

What's a human life worth, in your opinion?

Also, since when is resisting arrest a crime punishable by death?

Did the cop feel his life was in danger because the perp was being uncooperative?

I think I know why this guy wanted to be a cop:

Power.
 
Not at the time of the events. So tell us, windy woody, what code section mandates that the police just walk away while they're being assaulted and attacked by a mob and NO ONE comes to their aid?

Perhaps they know, by the preponderance of all the evidence, that the City doesn't actually have their back. Because if Pantelao HAD committed a "crime" he would have been prosecuted for it. He wasn't. Instead he was fired by the City that wouldn't stand behind him for doing his job.

You think NYPD officers don't know this is the way things work in The City?

You said no one has been arrested and charged. Now you're trying to amend your statement. So, Derpy, there is no code section I am aware of which mandates the actions by the police which you refer to, but I'm sure that if there were , you would be incapable of reading, comprehending and applying it as written and interpreted by the courts, as you are clearly incapable of distinguishing between an arraignment hearing, a revocation hearing, and a criminal trial as well as their concomitant burdens of proof, not to mention how the rules of evidence apply.

Pantelao was fired because he was dishonest. He broke departmental regulations, which resulted in someone's death, and then he lied to cover it up. That is why he was fired.

Been licensed to practice a long time, have you?
 
You said no one has been arrested and charged. Now you're trying to amend your statement. So, Derpy, there is no code section I am aware of which mandates the actions by the police which you refer to, but I'm sure that if there were , you would be incapable of reading, comprehending and applying it as written and interpreted by the courts, as you are clearly incapable of distinguishing between an arraignment hearing, a revocation hearing, and a criminal trial as well as their concomitant burdens of proof, not to mention how the rules of evidence apply.

Pantelao was fired because he was dishonest. He broke departmental regulations, which resulted in someone's death, and then he lied to cover it up. That is why he was fired.

Been licensed to practice a long time, have you?
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