Interesting bi guys

Bi and in a sexless marriage. 53’. Western Washington State. Would love to suck my first cock. Dream of finding a safe friend who is the closet, looking to explore but who loves their wife/ life. Let’s get together and fuck suck and work off the hormones our wives are not enjoying.
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No sex with wife need a friend to experience with! Tired of my hand need something new ! With knows I jo doesn’t care
I wonder if wives knew how often sexless marriages led to husbands turning bi, if maybe they would be more open to pleasing their husbands.
SO MANY bi men went down this route in frustration over wives refusing sex
 
I wonder if wives knew how often sexless marriages led to husbands turning bi, if maybe they would be more open to pleasing their husbands.
SO MANY bi men went down this route in frustration over wives refusing sex

Yep, although I think a lot of it is mismatched libidos, men in general though not exclusively do tend to seek quantity over quality when it comes to sex and it's easy to see why for some women that eventually comes over as pestering and hard work.

Guys are pretty easy and straightforward.
 
Yep, although I think a lot of it is mismatched libidos, men in general though not exclusively do tend to seek quantity over quality when it comes to sex and it's easy to see why for some women that eventually comes over as pestering and hard work.

Guys are pretty easy and straightforward.
I have chatted with so many men who have followed the same basic trajectory:
1. They had no desire for bi sex before marriage. Then their wife loses her sex drive so the guy turns to porn more than usual.
2. He eventually bores of the usual stuff and starts to explore kinkier scenes, often cuckold (which has bi elements), pegging and trans.
3. They internally defend this to themselves as cuckolds are being “forced” to the gay acts. Pegging is with a woman, so it’s still straight. Trans are essentially women but with cocks, so it’s still not truly gay.
4. Eventually they seek bisexual porn, again justifying it as there’s a woman in the scene so that makes it “less gay”
5. Acceptance of gay porn and desires of being with a man because it’s much easier to find a willing guy. They would prefer it be with a woman but Men who post online ads for sexual encounters with women may never get a response whereas man to man encounters are easy to find interested partners. Essentially it’s like they have no choice but to turn to other men.

Perhaps some of this desire was always in there and would have come out eventually, but that exact path is far too common to be coincidence.
 
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I wonder if wives knew how often sexless marriages led to husbands turning bi, if maybe they would be more open to pleasing their husbands.
SO MANY bi men went down this route in frustration over wives refusing sex

I have chatted with so many men who have followed the same basic trajectory:
1. They had no desire for bi sex before marriage. Then their wife loses her sex drive so the guy turns to porn more than usual.
2. He eventually bores of the usual stuff and starts to explore kinkier scenes, often cuckold (which has bi elements), pegging and trans.
3. They internally defend this to themselves as cuckolds are being “forced” to the gay acts. Pegging is with a woman, so it’s still straight. Trans are essentially women but with cocks, so it’s still not truly gay.
4. Eventually they seek bisexual porn, again justifying it as there’s a woman in the scene so that makes it “less gay”
5. Acceptance of gay porn and desires of being with a man because it’s much easier to find a willing guy. Men who post online ads for sexual encounters with women may never get a response whereas man to man encounters are easy to find interested partners.

Perhaps some of this desire was always in there and would have come out eventually, but that exact path is far too common to be coincidence.
This is exactly what happens and my thoughts are the same. Sexual frustration is very real and it can happen to women, but they're usually sympathized with more and told to slut it up or have affairs.

I don't mean men in marriages should cheat though they have the right to turn bi, like women can do as well and then leave their husband of 40+ years. I used to think it was black and white and that no one should ever cheat, but I was wrong. Wives can be pretty cruel in withholding and doling out sex in return for the kitchen being remodelled.

Like it or not, sex runs the world and we all need it. Some people are frustrated because their partner won't fulfill their dark desires, so they try to fulfill them with extra martial affairs.
 
This is exactly what happens and my thoughts are the same. Sexual frustration is very real and it can happen to women, but they're usually sympathized with more and told to slut it up or have affairs.

I don't mean men in marriages should cheat though they have the right to turn bi, like women can do as well and then leave their husband of 40+ years. I used to think it was black and white and that no one should ever cheat, but I was wrong. Wives can be pretty cruel in withholding and doling out sex in return for the kitchen being remodelled.

Like it or not, sex runs the world and we all need it. Some people are frustrated because their partner won't fulfill their dark desires, so they try to fulfill them with extra martial affairs.
100%

Any man, even the most handsome or successful, have to work to find casual sex with a woman. But any woman can find numerous men willing to provide casual sex with little effort.
So for many men it’s much easier to find another man to give you a blow job or to let you fuck them.
Often times those men develop an interest in cock (porn does enforce an appreciation for cock by making a large penis a focal point) so those once straight men find themselves willing to try cock for themselves.

A healthy sex life at home with their wife could have prevented these men from exploring and discovering this.
 
100%

Any man, even the most handsome or successful, have to work to find casual sex with a woman. But any woman can find numerous men willing to provide casual sex with little effort.
So for many men it’s much easier to find another man to give you a blow job or to let you fuck them.
Often times those men develop an interest in cock (porn does enforce an appreciation for cock by making a large penis a focal point) so those once straight men find themselves willing to try cock for themselves.

A healthy sex life at home with their wife could have prevented these men from exploring and discovering this.
That's a very good and detailed description.

Any man, even if he has wealth, will have to flaunt it and show how it will benefit a woman to get sex. A woman generally needs to get naked and show she's willing with a wet pussy to get sex.

And since it's so easy for women, the healthy sex life at home for men will never happen. Ask anyone and they'll say that sex isn't a right for men to have. Maybe it's not, but getting your bills paid and alimony with child support isn't an automatic right in an equal world either. There should be no gentlemanly treatment of non-ladies, and the same applies to trans people.
 
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I have chatted with so many men who have followed the same basic trajectory:
1. They had no desire for bi sex before marriage. Then their wife loses her sex drive so the guy turns to porn more than usual.
2. He eventually bores of the usual stuff and starts to explore kinkier scenes, often cuckold (which has bi elements), pegging and trans.
3. They internally defend this to themselves as cuckolds are being “forced” to the gay acts. Pegging is with a woman, so it’s still straight. Trans are essentially women but with cocks, so it’s still not truly gay.
4. Eventually they seek bisexual porn, again justifying it as there’s a woman in the scene so that makes it “less gay”
5. Acceptance of gay porn and desires of being with a man because it’s much easier to find a willing guy. They would prefer it be with a woman but Men who post online ads for sexual encounters with women may never get a response whereas man to man encounters are easy to find interested partners. Essentially it’s like they have no choice but to turn to other men.

Perhaps some of this desire was always in there and would have come out eventually, but that exact path is far too common to be coincidence.
That's a real good assessment
 
That's a real good assessment
I have chatted with so many men who have followed the same basic trajectory:
1. They had no desire for bi sex before marriage. Then their wife loses her sex drive so the guy turns to porn more than usual.
2. He eventually bores of the usual stuff and starts to explore kinkier scenes, often cuckold (which has bi elements), pegging and trans.
3. They internally defend this to themselves as cuckolds are being “forced” to the gay acts. Pegging is with a woman, so it’s still straight. Trans are essentially women but with cocks, so it’s still not truly gay.
4. Eventually they seek bisexual porn, again justifying it as there’s a woman in the scene so that makes it “less gay”
5. Acceptance of gay porn and desires of being with a man because it’s much easier to find a willing guy. They would prefer it be with a woman but Men who post online ads for sexual encounters with women may never get a response whereas man to man encounters are easy to find interested partners. Essentially it’s like they have no choice but to turn to other men.

Perhaps some of this desire was always in there and would have come out eventually, but that exact path is far too common to be coincidence.

I'll give another assessment:

1. They declared themselves as straight, and thought of themselves as only straight
2. Back in the days of AOL Chat rooms, they had moments alone and would surf around, eventually ending up in sex chat rooms.
3. Would chat, but realize that only guys were chatting.
4. Get drawn into sex chats with other guys and it would plant the seed of curiosity. It wasn't gay because it was just entertaining chat.
5. Eventually get curious enough for phone sex.
6. From there it would go to something offline.

ha ha, who misses the days of AOL chat rooms?
 
I'll give another assessment:

1. They declared themselves as straight, and thought of themselves as only straight
2. Back in the days of AOL Chat rooms, they had moments alone and would surf around, eventually ending up in sex chat rooms.
3. Would chat, but realize that only guys were chatting.
4. Get drawn into sex chats with other guys and it would plant the seed of curiosity. It wasn't gay because it was just entertaining chat.
5. Eventually get curious enough for phone sex.
6. From there it would go to something offline.

ha ha, who misses the days of AOL chat rooms?
But I believe the point remains that sexless marriages CAN lead men to seek this.
 
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I'll give another assessment:

1. They declared themselves as straight, and thought of themselves as only straight
2. Back in the days of AOL Chat rooms, they had moments alone and would surf around, eventually ending up in sex chat rooms.
3. Would chat, but realize that only guys were chatting.
4. Get drawn into sex chats with other guys and it would plant the seed of curiosity. It wasn't gay because it was just entertaining chat.
5. Eventually get curious enough for phone sex.
6. From there it would go to something offline.

ha ha, who misses the days of AOL chat rooms?
The old Yahoo chat room were pretty good too...
 
Might be a symptom but not the sole cause... Do you think that the same sexless marriages lead the wives to other women at the same time?
Definitely not a sole cause, but I truly believe that if puts many men on that path assuming that the lack of sex is the wife’s choice and not their own. I have chatted with too many who relayed this almost identical journey to be coincidence, unprompted. I ask how they came to develop the desire and this is very often the common arc.
As for the wives, if it’s the husband refusing the sex, then it’s possible but still unlikely IMO.
Women don’t consume porn as commonly as men (see my original point about porn for sexually frustrated husbands).
For those husbands who act on the urge to hook up with another man, the convenience of same sex hookups is a large part of it.
Men seeking out women for casual sex has a very low success rate. But you can get it easily from men so if they want it badly enough, it’s free and easy to find from numerous willing men, or you can pay $150+ from a female escort (not to mention risk of legal troubles). Many men will go with the easy, less complicated option.
Women can find opposite sex partners easily and so there isn’t that same convenience or necessity to try same sex experiences.

My point is that sexless marriage puts many men on this path. It doesn’t guarantee they will follow it through but many men will tell you that sexual frustration at home was what a catalyst
 
Women can find opposite sex partners easily and so there isn’t that same convenience or necessity to try same sex experiences.

What are your thoughts on this:

Among women, 17 percent reported having intimate same-sex contact in their lives, compared to 6 percent of men.

It comes from this article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-women-report-same-sex-relationships/

Do you think that more men don't admit to it or that more women experiment in their late teens and college years?
 
What are your thoughts on this:

Among women, 17 percent reported having intimate same-sex contact in their lives, compared to 6 percent of men.

It comes from this article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-women-report-same-sex-relationships/

Do you think that more men don't admit to it or that more women experiment in their late teens and college years?
I believe both. Women are more likely to experiment before settling down for marriage because it’s more socially acceptable.
I also believe a sizeable portion of “straight” men who have had a gay experience wouldn’t admit to it, and fewer still who desire it would admit to wanting it.
One only needs look at personals sections for casual sex. Male seeking male is by far the most popular. Openly gay men are less likely to be advertising there because they can find it at gay bars or other such spots, without needing to post ads. They would be more likely to seek out long term relationships there.
Most ads in the M2M casual sex section are men who live a straight life and want discreet hookups.
It will sadly never be as acceptable for men to admit to bi desires, acted out or not. Even in a confidential study, I guarantee some men would still lie, at the very least because they struggle to admit it even to themselves.
 
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