Internationalism: Where can I find some?

[Wilson23]

When lacking the material foundation to change the world, an idealistic communist party will attempt to alter it in a profoundly selfish manner through violent revolution and the export of revolution.
In contrast, an orthodox materialist communist party will establish a material foundation, using it as a fulcrum to leverage global change.
Take the Communist Party of China, for example: they simply need to focus on developing their own country and seize every available chance during periods of strategic opportunity. By doing so, they will naturally achieve a resounding and honorable victory.
Why is this the case?
Because the relations of production implemented in China are the most advanced in the world. Furthermore, historically, Mao Zedong already built a comprehensive industrial system for China, providing the underlying confidence that the nation cannot be defeated militarily. Therefore, as long as its economic development continues, it is bound to succeed.
The facts bear this out, which is why China has succeeded.

But at the same time, the PRC has GIVEN UP on INTERNATIONALISM. They have not helped any Communist movement in another country since the Vietnam War ended. When they demand Taiwan, they always say, "Taiwan is historically a province of China." They NEVER say "We must free the workers of Taiwan from their capitalist exploiters." They don't even THINK in those terms any more. The USSR, while it lasted, was the acknowledged center and leader of the INTERNATIONAL Communist movement. That is a mantle China has shown no inclination to take up -- and nobody else CAN.

 

[SebastianHolt]

This is exactly why you will fail: you are neither willing to understand the world nor to study it. Your gaze is forever fixed on your own feet, unable to see what lies ahead.

You are wrong. In business, I'm always looking to see what's next. I'm also following political trends. To be successful, one has to know what's coming; otherwise, you will be caught with your pants down, and that will cost you money, and if you're at the C-level most likely your job

 

[Wilson23]

communism will always fail. its a law of nature

The laws of mathematics, physics and chemistry are laws of nature. The laws of economics are not.

 

[SebastianHolt]

INTERNATIONAL Communist movement

has failed

 

[Wilson23]

has failed

Has ENDED.

 

[SebastianHolt]

Has ENDED.

communism has always and will always fail

 

[FemaleMasochist_TWOB]

communism has always and will always fail

Self-hypnosis over and over again, self-hypnosis day after day, self-hypnosis year after year—and as a result, your capitalism has simply marched in place for decades.
The internal collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 gave you Americans the illusion of your own greatness, didn't it?
The Soviet Union of the past was not defeated by capitalism; it was defeated from within by historical nihilism and revisionism.
And now, you Americans are treating historical nihilism as a treasured prize, entirely unwilling to study history, and even wielding your ignorance as the capital for your arrogance.
U.S.-led capitalism is destined for defeat—this is a general consensus among the American elite class. They have written it in their memoirs, in think tank research reports, and in government documents; it is merely that you refuse to look at them.
Shouting about victory while stepping into the abyss. Proclaiming that capitalism is invincible while falling into the maw of the devil. Fantasizing about the American Dream while suffocating under the crushing weight of debt.
Heh, Americans...

 

[Wilson23]

communism has always and will always fail

Even the Christian congregational communism described in the Book of Acts?

 

[SebastianHolt]

entirely unwilling to study history

why do you lie like this?

 

[FemaleMasochist_TWOB]

But at the same time, the PRC has GIVEN UP on INTERNATIONALISM. They have not helped any Communist movement in another country since the Vietnam War ended. When they demand Taiwan, they always say, "Taiwan is historically a province of China." They NEVER say "We must free the workers of Taiwan from their capitalist exploiters." They don't even THINK in those terms any more. The USSR, while it lasted, was the acknowledged center and leader of the INTERNATIONAL Communist movement. That is a mantle China has shown no inclination to take up -- and nobody else CAN.

This is precisely why you cannot comprehend true historical dialectical materialism: you look only at the superficial phenomena while failing to see the underlying essence.
What use was the Soviet Union's status as an international leader? It merely nurtured a swarm of parasitic allied states that fed off Soviet "state welfare." Not only did it fail to realize communism, but it also hollowed out the very foundation of its own nation.
Endlessly bleeding itself to supply others without ever establishing a positive economic cycle—is that communism? To me, it looks like nothing more than a form of overly generous philanthropy.
It explicitly proclaimed that communism was meant to liberate all of humanity, yet it divided mankind into two camps based on ideology, instead of starting from the most fundamental universal truths to genuinely improve people's lives. Such an internationalist movement lacks a material foundation and will never garner the support of humanity.

 

[Wilson23]

why do you lie like this?

If you are WILLING to STUDY history, you are mentally INCAPABLE of LEARNING from it.

 

[SebastianHolt]

If you are WILLING to STUDY history, you are mentally INCAPABLE of LEARNING from it.

I have a very good understanding of history

 

[Wilson23]

This is precisely why you cannot comprehend true historical dialectical materialism: you look only at the superficial phenomena while failing to see the underlying essence.

There is NO underlying essence. There is no mysterious numinous engine, divine or economic or sociological, driving the course of history, and anyone who tries to find one, like Marx, will fail.

 

[FemaleMasochist_TWOB]

This is precisely why you cannot comprehend true historical dialectical materialism: you look only at the superficial phenomena while failing to see the underlying essence.
What use was the Soviet Union's status as an international leader? It merely nurtured a swarm of parasitic allied states that fed off Soviet "state welfare." Not only did it fail to realize communism, but it also hollowed out the very foundation of its own nation.
Endlessly bleeding itself to supply others without ever establishing a positive economic cycle—is that communism? To me, it looks like nothing more than a form of overly generous philanthropy.
It explicitly proclaimed that communism was meant to liberate all of humanity, yet it divided mankind into two camps based on ideology, instead of starting from the most fundamental universal truths to genuinely improve people's lives. Such an internationalist movement lacks a material foundation and will never garner the support of humanity.

I have already made the Soviet Union's historical contribution to the construction of communism quite clear: it used the very life of its own nation in a romantic fashion to shatter the old world order, but the price was sacrificing itself.
Consequently, upon losing the state backing of the Soviet Union, the global communist movement collapsed. It never truly possessed the material foundation required to sustain continuous operation.
In contrast, the genuinely materialist Communist Party of China has taken a path of historical dialectical materialism that is fundamentally different from that of the Soviet Union.
This is why the Communist Party of China was able to endure both the Soviet blockade during the Cold War and the American blockade, holding strong until the era of Reform and Opening Up. Furthermore, even after the dramatic collapse of the Soviet Union, it has continued to develop ceaselessly, reaching the point today where it stands on equal footing with the United States—and it will surpass the U.S. in the future.
History will prove which choice was correct, and the present will prove which system is superior.

 

[Wilson23]

I have a very good understanding of history

Everything you post here denies that.

 

[Wilson23]

I have already made the Soviet Union's historical contribution to the construction of communism quite clear: it used the very life of its own nation in a romantic fashion to shatter the old world order, but the price was sacrificing itself.
Consequently, upon losing the state backing of the Soviet Union, the global communist movement collapsed. It never truly possessed the material foundation required to sustain continuous operation.
In contrast, the genuinely materialist Communist Party of China has taken a path of historical dialectical materialism that is fundamentally different from that of the Soviet Union.

Yeah -- but how is that system ever going to SPREAD BEYOND THE BORDERS? Chinese businesscritters in Africa do not bring the Revolution with them, only money.

 

[SebastianHolt]

Everything you post here denies that.

Please, point to something that I posted that was false

 

[FemaleMasochist_TWOB]

There is NO underlying essence. There is no mysterious numinous engine, divine or economic or sociological, driving the course of history, and anyone who tries to find one, like Marx, will fail.

Well, it doesn't matter anyway. After all, the understanding of philosophy and politics among you lower-class Americans only goes so far. Arrogance, prejudice, and selfishness essentially form the underlying foundation of how you perceive the world and acquire knowledge.
Oh, the American elites share that exact same selfish foundation as you. That is why they toy with you, restrict your access to information, and use relentless, day-to-day ideological pollution to distort your perception of reality. They do this to keep you forever ignorant, forever arrogant, and forever incapable of fighting back—enslaving you for all eternity.

 

[Wilson23]

Please, point to something that I posted that was false

"communism has always and will always fail" You don't KNOW that and you don't learn it from history.

 

[SebastianHolt]

Well, it doesn't matter anyway. After all, the understanding of philosophy and politics among you lower-class Americans only goes so far. Arrogance, prejudice, and selfishness essentially form the underlying foundation of how you perceive the world and acquire knowledge.
Oh, the American elites share that exact same selfish foundation as you. That is why they toy with you, restrict your access to information, and use relentless, day-to-day ideological pollution to distort your perception of reality. They do this to keep you forever ignorant, forever arrogant, and forever incapable of fighting back—enslaving you for all eternity.

what a load of crap

 

[Wilson23]

what a load of crap

You always say that of what is beyond your comprehension.

 

[SebastianHolt]

You always say that of what is beyond your comprehension.

Please, you are just grasping at straws.... where is your proof for the other bullshit post you made?

 

[Wilson23]

Please, you are just grasping at straws.... where is your proof for the other bullshit post you made?

Post #44.

 

[SebastianHolt]

"communism has always and will always fail" You don't KNOW that and you don't learn it from history.

communism will always failed, just like it has. China...well they are far from being a communist state. their newest industry is to bring women to America to give birth. birth right citizenship * welfare

 

[Wilson23]

communism will always failed, just like it has.

That is NOT any lesson of history.