It looks like they took it away

All moderators should be enforcing the rules. We're all only human, though, and we're volunteers. If you see a thread that violates the rules, you're welcome to report it.

As for why the rules are in place, you'd have to talk to Laurel about it. She owns the site, she makes the rules!

She's also whom you would contact if you had a problem with the way moderators are doing their jobs...
 
Not arguing with the rules I just think the rules are to strickt! I beleive adults can ans should be able to veiw what they choose!
 
Looking through Lit, there sure seems to be a lot of selective enforcement going on.

... jus' sayin.

I agree with you 100%! I know a few men who started threads only to have them deleted. While other guys, and girls get away with a hell of a lot more! SUch a shame.
 
All moderators should be enforcing the rules. We're all only human, though, and we're volunteers. If you see a thread that violates the rules, you're welcome to report it.

As for why the rules are in place, you'd have to talk to Laurel about it. She owns the site, she makes the rules!

She's also whom you would contact if you had a problem with the way moderators are doing their jobs...

Its NOT my intent to get other threads shut down and I think you know that, but I do wonder if there is a double standard for gayporn.

I asked earlier if there had been any prosecutions for violations of the laws that Laurel is worried about. Has Literotica even been contacted?

Tumblr and other pic posting sites seem to hot link with impunity. Why would Literotica be worried?
 
I think it is a misinterpretation of the law

as 2257 requirements apply only to those who produce sexually explicit images, as defined in the statute. I don't think operating a message board could qualify as "producing" sexually explicit images.
 
I agree with you 100%! I know a few men who started threads only to have them deleted. While other guys, and girls get away with a hell of a lot more! SUch a shame.
As I have said before, mods cannot be everywhere at all times. I am the only mod here. If I see something that violates the rules, I handle it accordingly. If I don't see it, I can't do anything (obviously). It helps tremendously when other board members report threads that violate the rules, but I still evaluate each report individually, myself.

Its NOT my intent to get other threads shut down and I think you know that, but I do wonder if there is a double standard for gayporn.

I asked earlier if there had been any prosecutions for violations of the laws that Laurel is worried about. Has Literotica even been contacted?

Tumblr and other pic posting sites seem to hot link with impunity. Why would Literotica be worried?
1) A double standard for gay porn - not at all. Again, I am the only mod here, and I guarantee you I have no interest in tackling gay or lesbian porn any more vigilantly than any other type. Perhaps I am more vigilant in my moderator duties overall, but that's because I take the job seriously where other mods may not. (I don't frequent most of the other forums, so I don't know.) Also, I moderate BDSM Talk/Cafe, and I handle threads there the same as I do here. I am a lesbian, who is into bondage, and who enjoys gay male porn (I was in a study on that once!). It would be shooting myself in the foot to alienate my own communities. So there is definitely no double standard. I'm just doing my job in the areas where I am tasked with it.

2) Has Lit been contacted - you mean by law enforcement? I have no idea. I know they have dealt with law enforcement regarding stalkers, which naturally a sex board has plenty of. (Post naughty pictures, and some crazy freak might track you down, I guess - I've been lucky to avoid that!) But as for being contacted about posting pictures they shouldn't, by other site owners or law enforcement, I have no idea. Laurel is very responsive to PMs, you should ask her.

3) Hotlinking - ask Laurel about that too. I have no idea why the rule is there, I just know that it is, and I enforce it, as a moderator. I guess it is about being a good internet citizen, because hotlinking does affect the hosting site (increases demands on their bandwidth without sending traffic to view the ads that pay for that bandwidth, for example), so Lit doesn't want to cause problems for other sites. But again, you'd have to ask Laurel.

as 2257 requirements apply only to those who produce sexually explicit images, as defined in the statute. I don't think operating a message board could qualify as "producing" sexually explicit images.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding the reasons for the rule, but as someone else mentioned, it wasn't always a rule, so I figured it was updated in response to the crackdown on 2257. I might be wrong. As I have said many times before, I am just enforcing rules that have been created by TPTB (Laurel and Manu) - I don't know why they created them.
 
As I have said before, mods cannot be everywhere at all times. I am the only mod here. If I see something that violates the rules, I handle it accordingly. If I don't see it, I can't do anything (obviously). It helps tremendously when other board members report threads that violate the rules, but I still evaluate each report individually, myself.


1) A double standard for gay porn - not at all. Again, I am the only mod here, and I guarantee you I have no interest in tackling gay or lesbian porn any more vigilantly than any other type. Perhaps I am more vigilant in my moderator duties overall, but that's because I take the job seriously where other mods may not. (I don't frequent most of the other forums, so I don't know.) Also, I moderate BDSM Talk/Cafe, and I handle threads there the same as I do here. I am a lesbian, who is into bondage, and who enjoys gay male porn (I was in a study on that once!). It would be shooting myself in the foot to alienate my own communities. So there is definitely no double standard. I'm just doing my job in the areas where I am tasked with it.

2) Has Lit been contacted - you mean by law enforcement? I have no idea. I know they have dealt with law enforcement regarding stalkers, which naturally a sex board has plenty of. (Post naughty pictures, and some crazy freak might track you down, I guess - I've been lucky to avoid that!) But as for being contacted about posting pictures they shouldn't, by other site owners or law enforcement, I have no idea. Laurel is very responsive to PMs, you should ask her.

3) Hotlinking - ask Laurel about that too. I have no idea why the rule is there, I just know that it is, and I enforce it, as a moderator. I guess it is about being a good internet citizen, because hotlinking does affect the hosting site (increases demands on their bandwidth without sending traffic to view the ads that pay for that bandwidth, for example), so Lit doesn't want to cause problems for other sites. But again, you'd have to ask Laurel.


Perhaps I am misunderstanding the reasons for the rule, but as someone else mentioned, it wasn't always a rule, so I figured it was updated in response to the crackdown on 2257. I might be wrong. As I have said many times before, I am just enforcing rules that have been created by TPTB (Laurel and Manu) - I don't know why they created them.

So then... by your own admission and by posting censorship on other threads, there is a great deal of leeway in what is banned and what is not. So there IS in fact a double standard here. Whether or not it is directed at gay's doesnt change that fact.

It seems to me, considering the numerous pics still being posted on other threads, that Laurel really doesnt have much problem with it...just you.
 
So then... by your own admission and by posting censorship on other threads, there is a great deal of leeway in what is banned and what is not. So there IS in fact a double standard here. Whether or not it is directed at gay's doesnt change that fact.

It seems to me, considering the numerous pics still being posted on other threads, that Laurel really doesnt have much problem with it...just you.

If you have a problem with the way I moderate the boards, feel free to send a PM to Laurel. That's really all I can suggest for you.
 
So then... by your own admission and by posting censorship on other threads, there is a great deal of leeway in what is banned and what is not. So there IS in fact a double standard here. Whether or not it is directed at gay's doesnt change that fact.

It seems to me, considering the numerous pics still being posted on other threads, that Laurel really doesnt have much problem with it...just you.

JESUS, dude! She explained herself several times and pointed you toward the forum rules. Did you bother to read them?

BTW, just because everybody else sucks at being a mod, you think Etoile should as well??? I personally appreciate the shit out of the job she does here. She is fair, even handed and conscientious.

As a matter of fact, I've occasionally asked that some of the semi hetero & "guys eating your own cum" threads be removed from here and she told me "Hell, no". That's okay though cuz this IS her house. If your not okay with THAT, I can only suggest that you stomp your little Manolo's right up to Laurel's email box and let her know. I'm sure she'll gladly tell you to screw off.

BTW, you can be as pissy as you want, but this IS a private site and we are ALL here at the forbearance of the owners. Their site, their rules. Etoile mods them equally and fairly for all of us and keeps our asses out of trouble. Don't like that, then deal with it because a hell of a lot of us do.
 
JESUS, dude! She explained herself several times and pointed you toward the forum rules. Did you bother to read them?

BTW, just because everybody else sucks at being a mod, you think Etoile should as well??? I personally appreciate the shit out of the job she does here. She is fair, even handed and conscientious.

As a matter of fact, I've occasionally asked that some of the semi hetero & "guys eating your own cum" threads be removed from here and she told me "Hell, no". That's okay though cuz this IS her house. If your not okay with THAT, I can only suggest that you stomp your little Manolo's right up to Laurel's email box and let her know. I'm sure she'll gladly tell you to screw off.

BTW, you can be as pissy as you want, but this IS a private site and we are ALL here at the forbearance of the owners. Their site, their rules. Etoile mods them equally and fairly for all of us and keeps our asses out of trouble. Don't like that, then deal with it because a hell of a lot of us do.

As a lesbian I would think that you would find the selective enforcement of rules to be troubling as well. I guess it all really does depend on who'e ox is getting gored.
 
As a lesbian I would think that you would find the selective enforcement of rules to be troubling as well. I guess it all really does depend on who'e ox is getting gored.

Not at all (and that's kind of an insulting insinuation, BTW).

The rules are the rules for ALL of us in this forum. Etoile mods them equaly for ALL of us. If she misses something and you don't point it out to her (she is only one person after all) then don't bitch about it.

If you have issues with the rules, deal or or not that's up to you, but the rules here are made by Mama Kitty and it's her house, so we either abide or we can go.
 
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