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adrina said:
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Very reminiscent of Mitt Romney’s answer when a woman asked him how he would fix the economy so she wouldn’t have to work three jobs just to get by and he was so aloof / detached / tone deaf that he ignored the question and said something to the effect of: “That’s great - you’re the model of a hard working American”.

Good answer!!!

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TastySuckToy said:
What's wrong with suggesting extended family help with kids?

My family does that all the time: parents need to go out of town or have business to deal with, and there's multiple options for extended family that are happy to take the kids. Heck, I'm one of them, and love taking care of them.
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There is nothing wrong with extended family help. However, the question posed to Vance was not the temporary scenario you described.

Here in the USA, the childcare issue isn't about an occasional need scenario you reference. It is about the everyday childcare needed so a working parent can leave the front door to support a family. The days of stay-at-home moms are pretty much gone in America. Young children need care, and the costs in the USA for daycare centers or private care sitters are taking an inordinate amount of the family income.

The US income tax has provisions for a tax credit for children that the government provides to offset some of those expenses. Rising material costs and inflation are squeezing incomes, and housing costs and similar expenses are rising. The Federal Tax Credit has not kept pace.

According to a 2023 study, the average annual cost of child care for one infant in the U.S. is approximately $10,000 to $17,000 (depending on location). In some states like Massachusetts, it can exceed $20,000. For parents with more than one child, these numbers quickly become unmanageable.

Childcare expenses can account for 10-30% of a family’s income. This creates a huge financial strain for many working families, especially single-parent households. This is far more than what the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services defines as affordable (7% of family income).

Many parents face challenges beyond cost, such as long waitlists for quality care. Rural areas may have limited options, forcing parents to drive long distances or pay even more for care.

High child care costs sometimes force one parent—often the mother—to stay home because the cost of care outweighs the income they would bring in by working. This has long-term effects on the parent’s career and family finances.

How Vance answered the question was disingenuous. His vacuous answer didn't address the need of childcare in America.

If I were a parent, I would hope for a more thoughtful solution to the childcare crisis. Vance suggested relying on grandparents or relatives, but the reality is that is not a viable solution. That $10,000 to $17,000 is more than the average cost of in-state college tuition! For many parents, this can amount to 20% or more of their household income, making saving or investing in their futures nearly impossible.

Even if workers have grandparents nearby, they may be unable to provide full-time care. The same goes for many families who don’t have the luxury of extended family support. Parents need policies that address the root causes of this affordability crisis, such as increased childcare subsidies, more tax credits for families, and a stronger investment in early childhood education infrastructure. Suggesting parents lean on family members doesn’t fix the problem—it just sidesteps it.
 
dmallord said:
How Vance answered the question was disingenuous. His vacuous answer didn't address the need of childcare in America.
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You've also got to remember the context: Vance has a lengthy history of implying that a woman's place is in the home. I don't know that he's ever quite said it - that's how the Southern strategy works, of course - but he's hinted at it plenty.
 
and another thing: a whole lot of grandparents really DON'T WANT to be the full-time babysitters of their grandchildren!

yes, they love them and like to visit/have them visit... they may even be happy to do one or two days a week... but they've raised their own kids, they've done their bit in that department, and a lot of them now want to either enjoy their retirement doing things they couldn't as they raised their own brood OR HAVE to go out to work, themselves, to make ends meet.

I'm pretty sure most grandparents or extended family are doing what they can/are willing to already, so vance can go do his damned job and come up with real alternatives.
 
trump's lawyers must be crying as they see how it can so easily apply to him and vance when he really wants to target Kamala and Tim :)
 
Vance trying to convince voters he really really DOES like cats, and dogs:
Hey! Breachers! Leave those kits alone!
“Months ago, I raised the issue of Haitian illegal immigrants draining social services and generally causing chaos all over Springfield, Ohio,” Vance wrote on X/Twitter. “Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn’t be in this country.”
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The reports, it turns out, do not show such nonsense.

Police in Springfield were quick to confirm that they had received no reports of pets being stolen, or indeed eaten. The force said it was aware of a viral Facebook post peddling the claims, but added that they were false.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offb...1&cvid=aeda4ba2960b400ba44678f178e1c56c&ei=18
 
Former President Donald Trump on Saturday called for “modifying” the 25th Amendment to allow for the removal of a vice president who “lies or engages in a conspiracy to cover up the incapacity of the president,”. He's already looking to get rid of Vance
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=b20bdebb2b03476f97095d5f6f51e3f3&ei=246
In an interview on a far-right podcast, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) invoked the Civil War, and suggested to the hosts that he's on the side of the Confederacy.

Conservative media outlet the Bulwark recently highlighted Vance's appearance in a 2021 episode of the Viva Frei podcast, in which he told hosts David Freiheit and Robert Barnes that in his view, the Civil War never really ended. Rather, the Hillbilly Elegy author posited that the North and the South are still battling for control of culture and the political narrative. And he made it clear he was on the side battling the "Northern woke people."
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what's left to say?

the confederates lost. ancient history.

we're not going back.
 
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