Just musing about those Aliens...

Saint_Ann

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Like, ok, I went thru the Sputnik stuff and flying saucer crazy in the 50s60s. A kid but still, it was everywhere, but not like it is today with media at a fingertip. Is something going on? Whatathink? :)
 
Just had a thought. If the Aliens are waiting for our technology to advance enough to understand the nature of the universe and reveal themselves, the data centers are to get us there faster. So if they're waiting for us to be worthy, how does that explain them revealing themselves to the Egyptians thousands of years ago. Were the pyramids their data centers to prove worthiness?

Musk and William Li and Hemiunu were in on it. Who else? :)
 
If he didn't see it with his own eyes or a news source he trusts didn't tell him about it, it didn't happen.
Are you suggesting that you have proof?
Or are you telling me to disprove something that has never been proven?
I will give you this, there is just about as much evidence for aliens as there is for a god
 
Are you suggesting that you have proof?
Or are you telling me to disprove something that has never been proven?
I will give you this, there is just about as much evidence for aliens as there is for a god
I have seen a lot of shaky, out of focus pics and videos. Some people would call that proof. I'm skeptical, but willing to keep an open mind. Our government likes to lie to us.

In my opinion, aliens are more believable than a god. Has every crop circle been proven to be done by humans?
 
I have seen a lot of shaky, out of focus pics and videos. Some people would call that proof. I'm skeptical, but willing to keep an open mind. Our government likes to lie to us.
I saw one of bigfoot, which also isn't real
And Santa.

In my opinion, aliens are more believable than a god. Has every crop circle been proven to be done by humans?
Not sure. But none have been proven to be done by aliens.

Filling gaps with beliefs are why conspiracies exist. Gaps don't need to be filled with belief.

Human beings have an uncomfortableness with not having all the answers, as a natural drive. Works for finding answers and also works for making up answers
 
I have seen a lot of shaky, out of focus pics and videos. Some people would call that proof. I'm skeptical, but willing to keep an open mind. Our government likes to lie to us.

In my opinion, aliens are more believable than a god. Has every crop circle been proven to be done by humans?
Could be just us, from a past or future super race. :)
 
saw one of bigfoot, which also isn't real
And Santa.
I believe Bigfoot is a guy in a Bigfoot costume and I lost my childhood innocence a very long time ago. Aliens are different though. Are we so arrogant that we believe we are alone in the universe? Or that somebody capable of reaching this planet would not possibly possess tech we don't know about?

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." ~ Arthur C. Clarke's third law.

Not sure. But none have been proven to be done by aliens.
We simply don't know. I favor the perspective that a thing can potentially exist unless it can be proven otherwise. Bible books aren't enough for me. Shaky videos aren't either. But the question hasn't been answered definitively yet. We need more proof than we have. For me, that means a statement like "There are no aliens" is being a tad premature since we haven't conclusively established they don't exist and in a universe this big, that's quite an assumption.

Could be just us, from a past or future super race. :)
We have a lot of unexplainable things that have happened in our history. Maybe I believe because I want it to be true. The possibility that we are unique is statistically unlikely.
 
I believe Bigfoot is a guy in a Bigfoot costume and I lost my childhood innocence a very long time ago. Aliens are different though. Are we so arrogant that we believe we are alone in the universe?
It's doubtful we are the only ones.
That's probability.

Or that somebody capable of reaching this planet would not possibly possess tech we don't know about?
Also doubtful that we understand all types of tech.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." ~ Arthur C. Clarke's third law.
Until we sufficiently have knowledge which advances far enough, just saying that it's there because we can't explain it, is just making shit up to explain it.

I have no issue just saying "we don't know" about things we can't explain. I do have issue saying it's something like aliens are god without having any reason to do so.

We simply don't know. I favor the perspective that a thing can potentially exist unless it can be proven otherwise. Bible books aren't enough for me. Shaky videos aren't either. But the question hasn't been answered definitively yet. We need more proof than we have. For me, that means a statement like "There are no aliens" is being a tad premature since we haven't conclusively established they don't exist and in a universe this big, that's quite an assumption.
Ok

We have a lot of unexplainable things that have happened in our history. Maybe I believe because I want it to be true. The possibility that we are unique is statistically unlikely.
I'm not saying we aren't unique
I'm saying that aliens aren't necessarily the only explanation for shit that people think are aliens. The greatest minds in the world don't do so and I agree with them.
 
Until we sufficiently have knowledge which advances far enough, just saying that it's there because we can't explain it, is just making shit up to explain it.

I have no issue just saying "we don't know" about things we can't explain. I do have issue saying it's something like aliens are god without having any reason to do so.
Yeah, but that's what we do. We guess if we don't know. We're still guessing at what's in a black hole. I've heard some guesses that we're in one.

I am not trying to suggest that I believe aliens have godlike abilities. All I'm saying is that if an alien has visited us, then it probably has tech we don't know about.

I'm not saying we aren't unique
I'm saying that aliens aren't necessarily the only explanation for shit that people think are aliens. The greatest minds in the world don't do so and I agree with them.
Then what do you mean by the statement "There are no aliens"?

I don't disagree with your second statement and I'm not arguing that.

Does intelligent life exist on other worlds?

Biology says “probably.”

Have they visited us?

Physics says “no.”
I would just add that we still aren't able to explain everything. Our current level of understanding of physics is not 100% complete. Until it is, physics, in my opinion, says "maybe."
 
Yeah, but that's what we do. We guess if we don't know. We're still guessing at what's in a black hole. I've heard some guesses that we're in one.
We put together theories and then add evidence to prove out those theories.

I am not trying to suggest that I believe aliens have godlike abilities. All I'm saying is that if an alien has visited us, then it probably has tech we don't know about.
Yep.

Then what do you mean by the statement "There are no aliens"?
I mean there are no aliens...none here.
Nothing we've seen are aliens.
I'm open to finding new things, but all the crap people say are aliens arent new things. Unexplainable yes....new...no.
I don't disagree with your second statement and I'm not arguing that.


I would just add that we still aren't able to explain everything. Our current level of understanding of physics is not 100% complete. Until it is, physics, in my opinion, says "maybe."
Physics will never be complete. The.latest round of quantum physics ripped open much of what we did now.

It's like the atom...then the electrons and neutrons and qibits.....we dig deeper and find more behind the curtain.
 
I have seen a lot of shaky, out of focus pics and videos. Some people would call that proof. I'm skeptical, but willing to keep an open mind. Our government likes to lie to us.

In my opinion, aliens are more believable than a god. Has every crop circle been proven to be done by humans?

There comes a point when all the evidence that hasn't been explained begins to pile up until it's just stubborn denial to refuse to admit that there's something there there.

Unless you're willing, without any proof whatsoever, to say that all those shaky videos are nothing but hoaxes.

IMO, some are real but are of DARPA craft. Others are also real but are most likely unmanned drones. Who they belong to is the question.
 
I mean there are no aliens...none here.
Nothing we've seen are aliens.
I'm open to finding new things, but all the crap people say are aliens arent new things. Unexplainable yes....new...no.
True, nothing we've seen ... yet. If you're as open as you say, then you shouldn't dismiss the evidence we currently have as proof they've never been here. Because we don't, and may never, have all the evidence.

Physics will never be complete. The.latest round of quantum physics ripped open much of what we did now.

It's like the atom...then the electrons and neutrons and qibits.....we dig deeper and find more behind the curtain.
You're making my point. We don't know everything so how can we assume no aliens have ever been here? The only info available is what the public is allowed to see.
IMO, some are real but are of DARPA craft. Others are also real but are most likely unmanned drones. Who they belong to is the question.
There's a good chance that most, if not all, of the stuff we've seen is local. That's open to speculation and speculation is what we've got.
 
True, nothing we've seen ... yet. If you're as open as you say, then you shouldn't dismiss the evidence we currently have as proof they've never been here. Because we don't, and may never, have all the evidence.
There is no evidence currently.
There are unexplained objects people see in photos or in person.
Nothing about any of them suggests these are lifeforms.

You're making my point. We don't know everything so how can we assume no aliens have ever been here? The only info available is what the public is allowed to see.
I get it
You think there are aliens here

There's a good chance that most, if not all, of the stuff we've seen is local. That's open to speculation and speculation is what we've got.
Got it.
There are no aliens.
 
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