Comshaw
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John McCain is not a war hero in my book. To be a hero one must actually do something more than simply being there. I'm not a war hero either though I was in the Army during the Vietname War.
But to be a successful politician in this country, one has to pander to some of most undeserving, pampered, and privileged organizations and people in the U.S.: American Legion, Amvets, Veterans of Foreign Wars, etc. Trump should know better, but he' right. Within 15 miles of my home, there are 4 such closed clubs. I could join but I don't.
That's cool. You were in the Army during Vietnam? And you were stationed where? Germany? Swilling down German beer and chasing Frauleins? Or Korea? I know about Korea during that time period having spent a year there in 73'-'74, yobo's and such. State side? Cool, out on the town every weekend, chasing the ladies.
All of those would equate to living in a filthy cell, getting your bones broken while refusing to let them break your spirit, eat slop the pigs refused to consume. Yea, they're pretty much the same.
And you call those organizations pampered, undeserving and privileged? That makes no sense at all to me. Those organizations are a lot of things, but not what you tagged them as. I wouldn't join one of them either, but for a much different reason.
So you say McCain isn't a hero because all he did was be in the wrong place at the wrong time? If that logic holds, then none of those who were prisoners of war are heros. Men like Loren Stamp. Captured on Corregidor and held and tortured by the Japanese in Manila until they were about to loose it. He was then put on a ship with 3500 other prisoners for transport to another camp. While waiting in the harbor a US plane shank it. The bombers had no idea there were POW's aboard. He swan to shore, one of only 1200 who survived, was recaptured and sent to a camp in northern China. He spent a total of 3 years in the camps. Three years of starvation and torture. When he was captured he weighed 220 lbs. When he was freed, he walked out at 95 lbs. Yea, that man wasn't a hero either, just a poor smuck who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I love it when people who have no idea what it's like, like Donald and the OP, no idea what constitutes the fabric of a hero can sip their beer or $5000.00 a bottle wine and glibly declare that these men aren't heros. "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time." That is true, but the rest goes,"They endured and over came pain, persecution and torture while keeping their honor and integrity."
How many of us could do the same? I honor those who have endured, who have suffered and made it through. You don't have to like the man to give him his due. Anyone who can't is a rather small , petty individual that I feel sorry for. I can't hate those who are envious or jealous. I can only feel sorry for them.
My rant is done.
'nuff said
Comshaw
