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[Carnal_Flower]

Well no you can't, because none of these other countries have been accused of cyber meddling like Russia has, which was the point.

Uh, "Hillary would have done the same thing?" I don't believe so. She's had a "beef" with Putin and "stood up to him," unlike Trump. Their dislike of each other is pretty well known. Whatever conspiracy theories you need to believe in, trying to paint her as a Putin sympathizer is about as credible as thinking she runs a pedophile ring out of a pizza joint. Or perhaps you believe that, idk.

By the way, at some point you and all the rest of the Trumpsters are going to have to pull on your big boy pants and take the pacifier out of your mouths and grow up. It's just you and your Daddy now. The election's over. He won. He's in charge, all by hisself. Someone's going to take your "Blame Hillary" teddy bear away.

You can say the same thing about Iran, China, UK, France, Germany or any other major foreign country. Hillary would have done the same thing.

We do know Hilly made a sweetheart deal with Russia to turn over uranium reserves. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well no you can't, because none of these other countries have been accused of cyber meddling like Russia has, which was the point.

That's because nobody cyber meddled with anything.

Russia didn't hack the voting machines.

The election was good.
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[jaF0]

I wouldn't put the creation of ISIS on Clinton. That one goes to Obama.

No, that one's on Lil'Bush.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, that one's on Lil'Bush.

How?

ISIS wasn't around until Obama had nearly finished his first term.

How in the fuck I lil Bush responsible for Obama ignoring EVERY GENERAL on the ground and pulling out?

I'm guessing this goes like (D)'s trying to blame ACA being a total piece of shit on (R)'s.

 

[jaF0]

Lil'Bush destabilized the region for personal reasons.

Saddam and Moammar would never have allowed the conditions that led to it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Lil'Bush destabilized the region for personal reasons.

Yea I'm sure the near 1 TRILLION a year in homie hook ups had nothing to do with it

And that doesn't make everything in the region lil Bush's fault no matter how big of and Obama fan boy you are.

Saddam and Moammar would never have allowed the conditions that led to it.

Neither did lil Bush....

ISIS didn't exist until Obama took actions (pulling out) AGAINST the advice of his military commanders who told him this would happen YEARS after lil Bush had left the picture.

You don't get to put that on lil Bush, not without looking certifiably insane.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Well no you can't, because none of these other countries have been accused of cyber meddling like Russia has, which was the point.

Uh, "Hillary would have done the same thing?" I don't believe so. She's had a "beef" with Putin and "stood up to him," unlike Trump. Their dislike of each other is pretty well known. Whatever conspiracy theories you need to believe in, trying to paint her as a Putin sympathizer is about as credible as thinking she runs a pedophile ring out of a pizza joint. Or perhaps you believe that, idk.

By the way, at some point you and all the rest of the Trumpsters are going to have to pull on your big boy pants and take the pacifier out of your mouths and grow up. It's just you and your Daddy now. The election's over. He won. He's in charge, all by hisself. Someone's going to take your "Blame Hillary" teddy bear away.

China has been hacking, http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/asia/china-cyber-spies-hacking/index.html and Iran certainly would if they had the capability.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I'm sure a lot of countries "would, if they could."

But that's not what this is about. It's about the conclusions regarding RUSSIA and Putin by US intelligence agencies in the past week that came about this specific election cycle AND about Trump denying/downplaying it AND about Trump, the President Elect, disparaging the Intelligence Agencies of his own county AND about Trump's ties to Russia.

When another scandal involving another country with this many things tied together, feel free to bring it up.

China has been hacking, http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/asia/china-cyber-spies-hacking/index.html and Iran certainly would if they had the capability.

 

[Publius1990]

None of those are real Clinton scandals. Psych!

Isn't calling "psych" sort of like a high school thing. But whatever...

Of course there are no Clinton scandals because nothing is her fault. She blames others or the "vast right wing conspiracy."

I can't get excited about Trump's win, but I have to admit seeing her lose was awesome. I just wish I could have been in the room to see her in a drunken, sobbing state cursing Podest and Mook. Probably shit her pantsuit.

 

[Publius1990]

No, that one's on Lil'Bush.

Well, with an avatar like that all I can say is "yes ma'am. But seriously the Obama "created ISIS" was more tongue in cheek. I don't think he "created" ISIS in the literal sense but his policies and inaction allowed it to foster, grow, and expand. You can assign whatever blame you want to Bush but you can't ignore 8 years of Obama incompetency.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I hope you're still laughing when you no longer have Social Security or Medicare.

I can't get excited about Trump's win, but I have to admit seeing her lose was awesome. I just wish I could have been in the room to see her in a drunken, sobbing state cursing Podest and Mook. Probably shit her pantsuit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I hope you're still laughing when you no longer have Social Security or Medicare.

You're under the assumption that everyone needs those things.

Some of us have jobs and or businesses.

Some of us don't suck with money and would rather the government just not take our money in the first fucking place because those things SUCK.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Well I'm certainly assuming all the angry "blue collar" voters who are SO MAD because everything's SO BAD and they're suffering SO MUCH are going to need it. A lot of the Florida seniors who voted for Trump are going to need it. 20 million about to lose their healthcare, I'm sure they'll be yukking it up over Hillary crying.

No, not everyone does. I have great healthcare. I'm a liberal elite. It's the dum dums who need it the most and they voted for the idiot.

Trade you. You can laugh at Hillary; I'll laugh at all the Trump voters who work at Wal Mart for the rest of their lives.

You're under the assumption that everyone needs those things.

Some of us have jobs and or businesses.

Some of us don't suck with money and would rather the government just not take our money in the first fucking place because those things SUCK.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well I'm certainly assuming all the angry "blue collar" voters who are SO MAD because everything's SO BAD and they're suffering SO MUCH are going to need it.

They have realized that the government options are raw deals and would be better off with the government not taking it in the first place.

The working class is tired of watching 1/2- 2/3 of their check vanish into a government black hole that sucks at doing what it promises. You and yours over charged and under delivered and everyone outside of a couple major cities has rejected your bullshit.

A lot of the Florida seniors who voted for Trump are going to need it. 20 million about to lose their healthcare, I'm sure they'll be yukking it up over Hillary crying.

No, not everyone does. I have great healthcare. I'm a liberal elite. It's the dum dums who need it the most and they voted for the idiot.

That's the false narrative....they don't need you fucking them out of extra money.

They just want you to stop taking it from them in the first place.

Your programs are fucking terrible and a shit investment.

Trade you. You can laugh at Hillary; I'll laugh at all the Trump voters who work at Wal Mart for the rest of their lives.

Seeing as we can both do that I don't see what the trade is.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

No, Dumb Fuck Nation is too dumb to understand all that. They see Trump in his gold tower and think he's gonna bring the Rapture and rain guns and money from the sky.

Instead they'll just get vouchers saying Whoops from Trump University.

Meanwhile the 1% will get richer and their social services and healthcare will be cut.

They have realized that the government options are raw deals and would be better off with the government not taking it in the first place.

The working class is tired of watching 1/2- 2/3 of their check vanish into a government black hole that sucks at doing what it promises. You and yours over charged and under delivered and everyone outside of a couple major cities has rejected your bullshit.



That's the false narrative....they don't need you fucking them out of extra money.

They just want you to stop taking it from them in the first place.

Your programs are fucking terrible and a shit investment.



Seeing as we can both do that I don't see what the trade is.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, Dumb Fuck Nation is too dumb to understand all that. They see Trump in his gold tower and think he's gonna bring the Rapture and rain guns and money from the sky.

Instead they'll just get vouchers saying Whoops from Trump University.

And you've gone completely incoherent...not at all shocking.

Meanwhile the 1% will get richer and their social services and healthcare will be cut.

The 1% get richer because the government gives it to them and has little to do with social services and HC being cut.

Our social services and HC are UNBELIEVABLY overpriced dog-fuckin'-shit....100% because the government sucks at running the HC industry when the (D)'s are left to whore it out to their corporate special interest instead of doing what's best for the country and it's citizenry.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

It's called sarcasm

No, the 1% get richer despite attempts by (D) to change it.

Because the (R) party is 100% in the pocket of corporate interests and obstruct at all times.

Hmm, who has the (R) PEOTUS put in charge? Goldman Sachs. Exxon. Corporations.

His Cabinet is shaping up to be on point to gut the US government and hand it over to Big Business. Couldn't be clearer. And what will happen? Hell make token gestures like bonuses for "traditional" families and nothing else will change. The spoils will go to the top. But, lol, the Dumb Fucks think he's going to open the government coffers and throw money at THEM ha ha ha. Dump has already said we can't afford to raise the minimum wage.

Stupid fools like you have been brainwashed into thinking it's the evil guv'mint behind everything.

Well all your dreams are about to come true. Cant wait to see what happens.

And you've gone completely incoherent...not at all shocking.



The 1% get richer because the government gives it to them and has little to do with social services and HC being cut.

Our social services and HC are UNBELIEVABLY overpriced dog-fuckin'-shit....100% because the government sucks at running the HC industry when the (D)'s are left to whore it out to their corporate special interest instead of doing what's best for the country and it's citizenry.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, the 1% get richer despite attempts by (D) to change it.

(D) doesn't try to change it, they just talk about it until they get in power and then they sell us out.

You can't name one single instance of (D) trying to change shit...Obama had 8 years and he never once pulled his tongue from big moneys asshole despite every opportunity to do so.

From Monanto, to the PATRIOT act to ACA we got fucked at every god damn turn.

Because the (R) party is 100% in the pocket of corporate interests and obstruct at all times.

So do (D)'s...they just work for different corporate interest and obstruct when they are on the defensive.

Hmm, who has the (R) PEOTUS put in charge? Goldman Sachs. Exxon. Corporations.

Yea? So?

(R)'s aren't the ones talking about how bad those people are, how horrible they are and the cause of all the problems, holding poor people down. They don't condemn success as a moral crime just to turn around and suck their shit chute.

That's a (D) activity.

(R)'s generally admire the rich and think everyone should aspire to be rich instead of wanting to destroy them for their success.

the Dumb Fucks think he's going to open the government coffers and throw money at THEM ha ha ha.

No that's what Democrats think and hope for, the poor dumb fucks.

Most of the Trump crowd doesn't want it, they want the government throwing money around to stop and fuck off.

Stupid fools like you have been brainwashed into thinking it's the evil guv'mint behind everything.

It's called history, not brainwashing.

Who ruins peoples lives because drugs? Guv'mint....

Who forces people into poverty by arbitrarily 'regulating' peoples opportunity away? Guv'mint....

Police Brutality = Guv'mint br00tality

Slavery? Guv'mint...

Jim Crow? Guv'mint....

War against the Native American people through lies and mass murder? Guv'mint....

Who's hosing them in ND right now? Guv'mint.....

Who killed 6 million jews? Guv'mint.....

Who slaughtered/starved 120-150 million soviets? Guv'mint......

Who slaughtered/starved 80 million Chinese and continues mass executions in secret to this very day? Guv' mint.....

Any number of SE Asian genocides totaling about 1/4 billion people in the last 70 years?? Guv'mint....

All of it the dark side of socialism everyone on the left likes to pretend is just some nonsense fairy tale so they can persist in their Utopian delusions.

Well all your dreams are about to come true. Cant wait to see what happens.

No they aren't.....my dreams are totally different and don't involve an ambitious big guv'mint loving lefty like Trump.

My dreams run along the free trade, open market capitalism, non interventionist, classical liberal lines. You know the kind that don't hate liberty the same way "liberal" democrats (control freak socialist tyrants) do??

 

[Carnal_Flower]

This is so incoherent I don't even know where to start.

I thought Obama was all about regulations and taxes strangling the life out of business? Now he's Mr. Corporate with his tongue in big money's asshole? Which is it?

Ok, whatev, still doesn't make sense.

If both Dems and Reps have their tongue up the asscrack of corporations, so? You love business in the same breath. Which is it?

So now Trump is big guv'mint, lol. Really? His cabinet choices do not suggest that at all. He's chosen people who hate the agencies they're supposed to "lead." He wants to fire a whooole bunch of federal employees. Says half the government agencies are a total waste. When he's done, the only thing guv'mint will definitively be for is to maintain a police state.

So no, Trump is your dream come true. He's exactly what you want. He'll strip guv'mint to the bone. No one needs it anyway, right? So what're you complaining about?

You're fulla shit.

Who protects your guns? Guv'mint

Who makes your streets clean, your water? When you flush your toilet, who makes sure it goes to a waste facility? Oh, that would be guv'mint

Who gives you a K-12 Education? Guv-mint, though not for long.

Who makes it so you most likely, hopefully, won't get E-coli along with your ground beef? Oh, that would be the FDA.

You need to go live in Alerbama for a while. See what it's like down there. You'll come crawling back to California.

(D) doesn't try to change it, they just talk about it until they get in power and then they sell us out.

You can't name one single instance of (D) trying to change shit...Obama had 8 years and he never once pulled his tongue from big moneys asshole despite every opportunity to do so.

From Monanto, to the PATRIOT act to ACA we got fucked at every god damn turn.



So do (D)'s...they just work for different corporate interest and obstruct when they are on the defensive.



Yea? So?

(R)'s aren't the ones talking about how bad those people are, how horrible they are and the cause of all the problems, holding poor people down. They don't condemn success as a moral crime just to turn around and suck their shit chute.

That's a (D) activity.

(R)'s generally admire the rich and think everyone should aspire to be rich instead of wanting to destroy them for their success.



No that's what Democrats think and hope for, the poor dumb fucks.

Most of the Trump crowd doesn't want it, they want the government throwing money around to stop and fuck off.



It's called history, not brainwashing.

Who ruins peoples lives because drugs? Guv'mint....

Who forces people into poverty by arbitrarily 'regulating' peoples opportunity away? Guv'mint....

Police Brutality = Guv'mint br00tality

Slavery? Guv'mint...

Jim Crow? Guv'mint....

War against the Native American people through lies and mass murder? Guv'mint....

Who's hosing them in ND right now? Guv'mint.....

Who killed 6 million jews? Guv'mint.....

Who slaughtered/starved 120-150 million soviets? Guv'mint......

Who slaughtered/starved 80 million Chinese and continues mass executions in secret to this very day? Guv' mint.....

Any number of SE Asian genocides totaling about 1/4 billion people in the last 70 years?? Guv'mint....

All of it the dark side of socialism everyone on the left likes to pretend is just some nonsense fairy tale so they can persist in their Utopian delusions.



No they aren't.....my dreams are totally different and don't involve an ambitious big guv'mint loving lefty like Trump.

My dreams run along the free trade, open market capitalism, non interventionist, classical liberal lines. You know the kind that don't hate liberty the same way "liberal" democrats (control freak socialist tyrants) do??

 

[BotanyBoy]

I thought Obama was all about regulations and taxes strangling the life out of business? Now he's Mr. Corporate with his tongue in big money's asshole? Which is it?

He loves BIG money...he loves them so much he strangles the life out of every other business for big money. That's how the 1% got so unbelievably rich. Elites like Obama, Bush, Trump and Clinton help keep competition in prison or just dead.

So now Trump is big guv'mint, lol. Really?

Really. He loves government authority and power.

So no, Trump is your dream come true. He's exactly what you want. He'll strip guv'mint to the bone. No one needs it anyway, right? So what're you complaining about?

I love how you insist that your opinion is mine even after I've rejected it.

You're wrong Trump isn't my dream he's way too authoritarian.

I'm just enjoying watching the regressive left shit a collective brick.

Who protects your guns? Guv'mint

No they don't, they want to take the guns away. If it weren't for legal restrictions placed on the government they would have.

Who makes your streets clean, your water? When you flush your toilet, who makes sure it goes to a waste facility? Oh, that would be guv'mint

Wrong again, I live on a private street, my water comes from the earth and I maintain my own septic system.

Sorry I'm not as helpless as you wish I was.

Who gives you a K-12 Education? Guv-mint, though not for long.

I went to a private school, so my parents...not guv-mint.

Who makes it so you most likely, hopefully, won't get E-coli along with your ground beef? Oh, that would be the FDA.

I grow my own food and don't need the FDA to safely feed myself.

I'm an adult!!

You need to go live in Alerbama for a while. See what it's like down there. You'll come crawling back to California.

Been there, GA, KY, NC, TX and TN.

As far as political climates go I much prefer them to CA, but it's hot and flat there so I don't.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Ew

Nice talking to you, sicko. You're going on ignore

I'm just enjoying watching the regressive left shit a collective brick.

 

[phrodeau]

That's BotanyBoy. He's got his own oil well and refinery, apparently.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's BotanyBoy. He's got his own oil well and refinery, apparently.

The government provides petroleum products now? Funny, I thought I bought those from private companies.

 

[phrodeau]

The government provides petroleum products now? Funny, I thought I bought those from private companies.

Petroleum products are taxed and regulated up the wazoo, by the government.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Petroleum products are taxed and regulated up the wazoo, by the government.

Disproportionately fucking poor people up the ass, thanks Democrats!!

What's your point?