Chicklet
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peterpan said:
I think of it as "slippery consent" ever since SirHugs brought that topic up in one of his threads.
Saying no but meaning yes...it's still nonconsent, officially, but the character is hoping that the other person is going to take what they want. The character *wants* to be forced.
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Mmmmm....slippery consent...I like that 
Very nice *kisses*
Very nice *kisses*
Chicklet said:
I guess lubricated consent just means getting her drunk?
Just 'Slippery' isn't enough though. I can read a tale and think 'here is a woman writing about losing control, within a fantasy that she controls,' or there is a guy writing about women that deep down want to be raped no matter what they say initially. (I could switch the genders, but you know what I mean)
Its hard for me to come up with a rule that distinguishes the two, but to me it is still very distinct.
but anyway, hey Chicklet !weren't you thinking of a tale about a special school for girls? Anything happen with that?
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I just can’t see it this way, either your forced, which means against your will, or you consent. Wouldn’t it be better to say, "The character appears to *want* to be forced."Chicklet said:
Diane Marie
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In what way would her honor(morals) be unhealthy or unworthy. Suppose she’s married, suppose the man is her husband’s best friend. She’s been attracted to this man since she first met him. We can be both physically and mentally attracted to men other then our husbands, while never intending to act on those feelings. In my opinion being attracted to men other then our husbands is the norm.peterpan said:
Morally she doesn’t want to become a cheat. I see her consenting, but only after he’s pushed her passions to a point she can no longer control her desire to stay faithful. He forces her each step of the way, logic deserts her, canal lust over powers her. In the end she surrenders to him. I don’t see her honor as unhealthy or unworthy!
This, of course, is not rape, but rape would be rather uninteresting to write about, grab her, throw her on the floor, then rape her. That is what rape is all about, it’s not erotic, a real rape makes a very poor story.
Just my take on life!
Diane Marie said:
Perhaps ravishment is the term to use.
In your scenario, her honor is not unworthy. However that creates the problem that she probably can't be happy in the aftermath.
If however, the thing she honors is unworthy, then she can both lose and then win! For example, if the virgin sacrifice thinks the world will end the moment she loses her virginity (contrived though that may be) then the aftermath can be a relief in more ways than one.
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Diane Marie said:
i get off, and i mean it sends me over the edges of pleasure, to be forced sexually. i go to great lengths to give my boyfriend the hardest time so that he will force me. i tell you, there are people out there that *want* to be forced, not "appear to want to be forced"
Chicklet
Another story idea:
A tribe of amazons that once a year accept challenges from males. If the man can defeat and bind one in the ring, the other amazons let him have his way with her for a night. They are somewhat scornful of the defeated, and consider that she has proven she would serve the tribe better by producing a strong child.
The story is about a young amazon that has just come of age, knows she will be overpowered by a man in simple ring combat, but does not want to be impregnated (and her sister amazons don't think it is fair either)
So the girl accepts the challenge of the slimmest man. He defeats her anyway.
The twist is that her challenger turns out to be one of her sisters in disguise. Naturally they still have their way with her
A tribe of amazons that once a year accept challenges from males. If the man can defeat and bind one in the ring, the other amazons let him have his way with her for a night. They are somewhat scornful of the defeated, and consider that she has proven she would serve the tribe better by producing a strong child.
The story is about a young amazon that has just come of age, knows she will be overpowered by a man in simple ring combat, but does not want to be impregnated (and her sister amazons don't think it is fair either)
So the girl accepts the challenge of the slimmest man. He defeats her anyway.
The twist is that her challenger turns out to be one of her sisters in disguise. Naturally they still have their way with her
Diane Marie
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I guess it’s all in how you see things. You want to be forced, you in essence force your boy friend into forcing you, but your still having consensual sex. I would say your not being forced, at least not in the same way a woman who is raped is forced to have sex.Chicklet said:
Could be fun Chicklet, bringing us back to the topic of lesbian rape…your way could be very electrifying!! I like the idea of knowing you may not totally object.
Diane
Not sure if you meant that quite the way I read it Diane. Those quiet ones that protest to much are always the ones to watch 
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triplets of tongue-y frogs. They are also ones to watch. But don't stare too long or they start speaking to you. I know.
.triplets of tongue-y frogs. They are also ones to watch. But don't stare too long or they start speaking to you. I know.
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Chicklet, lesbian sex, being forced but knowing the forcing turns her on. I simple mean that is a turn on. Even more of a turn on if she’s open to the idea of sex with another woman but has not yet experienced the ecstasy of making love this way.peterpan said:
