Literoticans divided over Trump's impeachment: Poll

[SimonDoom]

I think he's manifestly unfit for the office, but I also believe a President should not be impeached, let alone removed from office, unless he has committed a crime. People have a fuzzy idea of what it means for the President to commit a crime. It's not a crime to enact or enforce laws that later prove to be unconstitutional -- the remedy for that is challenging them in federal court.

Maybe Trump has committed a crime. I wouldn't be too surprised if he we found out he did something wrong with the Russians, or if his tax returns, once the FBI gets them, show illegal business dealings. But so far it's all speculative. It's premature to say he should be impeached. There's no basis for doing so yet.

 

[sr71plt]

I don't think there will be any problem at all for Mueller to come up with a whole range of crimes to tag Trump with. That's not the problem. The slimy slugs in the Republican congressional leadership will have to not be blind to them by putting party ahead of country.

One wonders if they have noticed that Trump is stripping his White House of anyone who has had connections to the Republican Party.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't think there will be any problem at all for Mueller to come up with a whole range of crimes to tag Trump with. That's not the problem. The slimy slugs in the Republican congressional leadership will have to not be blind to them by putting party ahead of country.

One wonders if they have noticed that Trump is stripping his White House of anyone who has had connections to the Republican Party.

Well, the poll asks "should" he be impeached, not "will" he be impeached. Mueller may find something, but he hasn't announced anything yet, so it seems appropriate to wait and see what he has to say.

I'm somewhat more optimistic than you that if in fact there is evidence that he committed a crime the Republicans will act. For purely political reasons, if not principled reasons: if it gets to the point that it appears Trump is going to drag them down, they won't stand by him. So far, that isn't true -- his poll numbers are still very solid with Republicans. But that could change.

With the Senate's current composition it would take 19 Republicans voting against him to remove him through impeachment. He's going to have to do something really bad for that to happen.

 

[sr71plt]

Yes, when Mueller reports what is there that we all know is there (even if some want to pretend not to have a brain and ability to do simple analysis), I think that the multiple crimes of Donald Trump should result in impeachment proceedings and that the sleazy slugs in the Republican congressional leadership should find the courage to be Americans rather than just Republicans and pursue impeachment--assuming that Donald Trump isn't already gone by then.

Oh, and I haven't bothered to vote in this poll.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yes, when Mueller reports what is there that we all know is there (even if some want to pretend not to have a brain and ability to do simple analysis), I think that the multiple crimes of Donald Trump should result in impeachment proceedings and that the sleazy slugs in the Republican congressional leadership should find the courage to be Americans rather than just Republicans and pursue impeachment--assuming that Donald Trump isn't already gone by then.

Oh, and I haven't bothered to vote in this poll.

So, Senator McCarthy. What are these multiple crimes of which you speak? Since Trump has only been POTUS for a little more than six months, he certainly must have been busy. How would he have had time to play golf?

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, right, Box. I'd almost forgotten about you. Yes, some posters here aren't just pretending to be brain dead about Donald Trump; they really are brain dead. Like you, for instance.

Senator McCarthy had power to back up his opinions. I don't. So that comparison is falacious. Besides that, I quite clearly predicated everything on Mueller finding the crimes. That isn't anything like McCarthy tactics.

However, I'm a trained intelligence analyst, so I have no trouble figuring Donald Trump out. One term for it, I think, is the Judge Judy approach. If it's a small, black, furry animal, with a white stripe down its back and it smells to high heaven, it's a skunk--otherwise known as Donald Trump.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Oh, right, Box. I'd almost forgotten about you. Yes, some posters here aren't just pretending to be brain dead about Donald Trump; they really are brain dead. Like you, for instance.

Senator McCarthy had power to back up his opinions. I don't. So that comparison is falacious. Besides that, I quite clearly predicated everything on Mueller finding the crimes. That isn't anything like McCarthy tactics.

However, I'm a trained intelligence analyst, so I have no trouble figuring Donald Trump out. One term for it, I think, is the Judge Judy approach. If it's a small, black, furry animal, with a white stripe down its back and it smells to high heaven, it's a skunk--otherwise known as Donald Trump.

Sometimes McCarthy was right, but many of his accusations were groundless. It is the same with what people are saying about Trump. So far, Mueller hasn't reported anything, much less impeachable "High crimes and misdemeanors." As far as I can see, everything is no more than the fabrications of Trump's enemies, and he has plenty of them.

By no means am I a supporter of Trump, but I am a supporter of such intangibles as Truth and Justice.

 

[JackLuis]

Sometimes McCarthy was right, but many of his accusations were groundless. It is the same with what people are saying about Trump. So far, Mueller hasn't reported anything, much less impeachable "High crimes and misdemeanors." As far as I can see, everything is no more than the fabrications of Trump's enemies, and he has plenty of them.

By no means am I a supporter of Trump, but I am a supporter of such intangibles as Truth and Justice.

It seems Muller has assembled an All Star group of experienced prosecutors and is looking into who owes who the money for what.

The way I read it now is that Putin wanted to get some money from the Russian mob for a scam that ended up with the funds being laundered in the US but unavailable due to sanctions. So he was fangeling Trump to get the sanctions removed. Trump had been a party to laundering Russian money thru Rel Estate in NYC for years. But that's just my opinion.

Let's see what Bob comes up with?

 

[SimonDoom]

I'm curious to hear more from the 16% who want chocolate cream pie . . .