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Are women really equal with men? If you believed that men and women aren't created equally, PM me.
 
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Wow..... I haven't see this much dick-waving since four of my contractors were standing around arguing over whose fault it was that the crawl space was flooded.

And while we're on the topic of dick-waving, there's a difference between a dom and a misogynist. I deal with enough of the latter just by getting up in the morning, I certainly don't need one in my bedroom.

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in our society these days all these special interest feminist groups are killing these ideas, the whole idea of women being equal to man is just stupid. Everyone knows it isn't and most women don't want it to be equal. Why is being unequal a bad thing, everyone is different, that itself means we are all unequal. Thanks god there are sites like lit for these women to vent and for us men to enjoy.
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That might be your problem. Just because I want man to dominate me and use me for his pleasure while teaching me about my own does not give that man license to tell me how to run every facet of my existence nor does it imply that I wish to become a second class citizen simply because I lacked the inspiration to grow a penis in utero. Why is inequality between men and women a bad thing? Google 'honor killings.' I'm fairly sure that would make it in the top five list for most anyone.

IMO, domination without respect boarders on abuse. There's little respect or admiration to be found in someone, male or female, who uses the guise of BDSM to bolster their self-esteem by bullying someone else.
 
Damn right

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Wow..... I haven't see this much dick-waving since four of my contractors were standing around arguing over whose fault it was that the crawl space was flooded.

And while we're on the topic of dick-waving, there's a difference between a dom and a misogynist. I deal with enough of the latter just by getting up in the morning, I certainly don't need one in my bedroom.



That might be your problem. Just because I want man to dominate me and use me for his pleasure while teaching me about my own does not give that man license to tell me how to run every facet of my existence nor does it imply that I wish to become a second class citizen simply because I lacked the inspiration to grow a penis in utero. Why is inequality between men and women a bad thing? Google 'honor killings.' I'm fairly sure that would make it in the top five list for most anyone.

IMO, domination without respect boarders on abuse. There's little respect or admiration to be found in someone, male or female, who uses the guise of BDSM to bolster their self-esteem by bullying someone else.

I agree 100% dear lady. Liking to surrender a bi of control in bed is quite different from being able to assert equality otherwise. I want a sub who is my equal in all ways and knowing she is excersizing her free will to play the way WE like.
 
Who said enjoying a women, means bullying them. Men and Women are not created equal, it doesn't matter how you put it, chemically, physcially, and mentally. Why can't we all except the fact that we are different, and we can never be the same and equal. And please don't think of not being equal means women are lesser then men, its just that in certain areas we want different things. I mean women have always been the more caring and ready to serve, its their human nature. Respecting a women isn't about treating them like equal, we need to treat them like a women. I mean if I am gonna treat a women like another men, we are never gonna have sex lol.....
 
Who said enjoying a women, means bullying them. Men and Women are not created equal, it doesn't matter how you put it, chemically, physcially, and mentally. Why can't we all except the fact that we are different, and we can never be the same and equal.

So, if one follows that reasoning, feminine men would be equal to women but not men. And a 'butch' woman would be equal to men, but not women. So who we are equal to is based on our individual hormone levels and inherent gender characteristics in relation to the society we live in if one follows the logic of your reasoning.

And what about hermaphrodites? Transsexuals? Transgenders? How do they rank on the equality scale?

And please don't think of not being equal means women are lesser then men, its just that in certain areas we want different things. I mean women have always been the more caring and ready to serve, its their human nature.

This quickly boils down to a nature vs. nurture argument with cultural stereotypes and expectations thrown in to add to the fun. There have been several cultures over time that have been female dominant (not to be confused with matrilineal) and numerous times throughout history that even male dominant cultures have turned to women for help. Just because we are able to produce an offspring every year or so does not mean that we, as a gender, are unable to be just as ruthless, deadly, and destructive as men.

I also seem to remember discussing a number of classic psychological studies and experiments in university that proved just how ruthless and willing to help women were.

Respecting a women isn't about treating them like equal, we need to treat them like a women. I mean if I am gonna treat a women like another men, we are never gonna have sex lol.....

But why can't you respect men and woman equally? Basic respect isn't based on dragging a deer home for dinner or popping out a football team worth of kids, nor should it be.
 
So, if one follows that reasoning, feminine men would be equal to women but not men. And a 'butch' woman would be equal to men, but not women. So who we are equal to is based on our individual hormone levels and inherent gender characteristics in relation to the society we live in if one follows the logic of your reasoning.

And what about hermaphrodites? Transsexuals? Transgenders? How do they rank on the equality scale?



This quickly boils down to a nature vs. nurture argument with cultural stereotypes and expectations thrown in to add to the fun. There have been several cultures over time that have been female dominant (not to be confused with matrilineal) and numerous times throughout history that even male dominant cultures have turned to women for help. Just because we are able to produce an offspring every year or so does not mean that we, as a gender, are unable to be just as ruthless, deadly, and destructive as men.

I also seem to remember discussing a number of classic psychological studies and experiments in university that proved just how ruthless and willing to help women were.



But why can't you respect men and woman equally? Basic respect isn't based on dragging a deer home for dinner or popping out a football team worth of kids, nor should it be.
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I see where your coming from, and really didn't intend to get into a detail argument over this subject, however, I am some what bored, so I'll play along.
Well I am first to agree that women are more evil then men. Doesn't that in itself make us unequal? When I said men and women are created differently, I didn't said which was more superior. I just see in general that women are much better subs then men.(There are always exception, no need to tell me about sub males) The hormones that we have make us want to dominate and take control, and women in general likes to submit to stronger dominate male, because it feels safe for them, and because women are so evil, they can use the dominate male to achieve what they want. So males are generally more physical, and stronger, women are better using their brains for evil. Making men and women totally different. When we are different we are not equal.

As for respect, what is that? Seriously, what do you consider as respect? Women always said "We don't get enough respect". Hell i think women get too much of it, and doesn't give back enough in return.
 
I am looking for a long term sub, someone who wants to be controlled and enjoys serving, if your not turn on by being told what to do, please don't PM for wanting to be a sub.
 
A "gentlemen" hmm..hm..I wonder what kind of gentlemen would go around other ppls thread and start calling them jerks....do I even know you? Are you really taking literotica(the lit part) so seriously that..anyone who post here must write proper english......and because I didn't do a spell check or write english to "your honors" standard...I am a jerk??? I guess every man in this world that doesn't know how to speak or write english are Jerks......But you know what... I do see your point, "Gentlemen" like you hates people like me...cause you see us as pretenders, people not worthy of playing the Dom role, because we don't understand what it means to be a Dom.(How can anyone possibly be a dom if he or she can't spell or write properly lol...) And I don't blame you for hating, just keep the hating in your own posting. I am sure you have your own fan club, so have fun teasing and bitching about jerks with them in your own thread. And no need to try and help correct my spelling or writing anymore, this is the
best I can do. I am very comfortable with it too. Have fun hunting....
Good on you SSLAM: so many jerks here seem to feel a comma in the wrong place is total damnation. I would much rather listen to someone who has something to say.
 
Still looking for another sub to keep the online experience more interesting. Someone who truly believes in serving.
 
Someone in the upstate NY, Buffalo area would be great!!! I know its like finding needle in a hay stack!!! No one from the area seems to be on this site, they are all from the south. :rolleyes:
 
Here :D the northeast women should be lining up now....:D
 
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A "gentlemen" hmm..hm..I wonder what kind of gentlemen would go around other ppls thread and start calling them jerks....do I even know you? Are you really taking literotica(the lit part) so seriously that..anyone who post here must write proper english......and because I didn't do a spell check or write english to "your honors" standard...I am a jerk??? I guess every man in this world that doesn't know how to speak or write english are Jerks......But you know what... I do see your point, "Gentlemen" like you hates people like me...cause you see us as pretenders, people not worthy of playing the Dom role, because we don't understand what it means to be a Dom.(How can anyone possibly be a dom if he or she can't spell or write properly lol...) And I don't blame you for hating, just keep the hating in your own posting. I am sure you have your own fan club, so have fun teasing and bitching about jerks with them in your own thread. And no need to try and help correct my spelling or writing anymore, this is the
best I can do. I am very comfortable with it too. Have fun hunting....

Dude,
either don't feed the trolls (and I apologize for callling seflamaster a troll, but from the OP's perspective you are one), or take the two seconds needed to put out something cogent.

Are women really equal with men? If you believed that men and women aren't created equally, PM me.

Who said enjoying a women, means bullying them. Men and Women are not created equal, it doesn't matter how you put it, chemically, physcially, and mentally. Why can't we all except the fact that we are different, and we can never be the same and equal. And please don't think of not being equal means women are lesser then men, its just that in certain areas we want different things. I mean women have always been the more caring and ready to serve, its their human nature. Respecting a women isn't about treating them like equal, we need to treat them like a women. I mean if I am gonna treat a women like another men, we are never gonna have sex lol.....

First of all, bud, it's a woman and a few women. A women is just...dumb.
As for women being more...docile...society also plays a role in ensuring that they will be more "ready to serve", as it's what girls are traditionally taught to do. Thus, they don't quite have a choice.
Also, if you knew anything about history and WWII in particular, you might know that the Russians used women's battalions on the Eastern Front....and they were vicious to any Germans they caught. The Germans preferred being captured by guys, as they were more merciful. So, that lets us doubt your assertion of female..."innate submissiveness."
And how do you respect a woman, if she's not your equal? You respect her womanhood?

Whatever, man, good luck finding your submissive mom, hope you weren't looking for a teacher too, 'cause they'd rip you to shreds.
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Dude,
either don't feed the trolls (and I apologize for callling seflamaster a troll, but from the OP's perspective you are one), or take the two seconds needed to put out something cogent.





First of all, bud, it's a woman and a few women. A women is just...dumb.
As for women being more...docile...society also plays a role in ensuring that they will be more "ready to serve", as it's what girls are traditionally taught to do. Thus, they don't quite have a choice.
Also, if you knew anything about history and WWII in particular, you might know that the Russians used women's battalions on the Eastern Front....and they were vicious to any Germans they caught. The Germans preferred being captured by guys, as they were more merciful. So, that lets us doubt your assertion of female..."innate submissiveness."
And how do you respect a woman, if she's not your equal? You respect her womanhood?

Whatever, man, good luck finding your submissive mom, hope you weren't looking for a teacher too, 'cause they'd rip you to shreds.
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I couldn't believe you took time to read those old postings, I guess boredom makes ppl do weird things. So many angry and pissed off people here.
 
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