Loving Wives vs Cuckold

[CZOFTW]

Great thread and touching on some things I've thought about for a long time. Also exciting to see a few authors I really like posting here. I've always thought the stories I like best are better described as Loving Husband.

Someone said that the tags appear at the beginning of the story but that hasn't been my experience - mine always show at the end. Maybe it's because I'm always on a handheld device or I'm using a different interface but if tags were posted along with the description then it could save a lot of grief.

Also, I have no idea what BTB specifically stands for but I'm pretty sure I hate it. It seems like the last thing that should be in a category with the word "loving" in the title.

 

[gordo12]

Great thread and touching on some things I've thought about for a long time. Also exciting to see a few authors I really like posting here. I've always thought the stories I like best are better described as Loving Husband.

Someone said that the tags appear at the beginning of the story but that hasn't been my experience - mine always show at the end. Maybe it's because I'm always on a handheld device or I'm using a different interface but if tags were posted along with the description then it could save a lot of grief.

Also, I have no idea what BTB specifically stands for but I'm pretty sure I hate it. It seems like the last thing that should be in a category with the word "loving" in the title.

BTB stands for burn the bitch or burn the bastard. Revenge porn

Tags show in the beginning on the new page format. I have no idea how it shows up in a small device like a phone but on a computer or kindle it's now right up front.

I assume the new page format is available for phones???

PS I've always considered the loving part of the category as ironic or tongue-in-cheek. She's loving someone, just not her husband!

 

[SimonDoom]

BTB stands for burn the bitch or burn the bastard. Revenge porn

Here's my question. I know some people love the revenge aspect. I don't but I realize many don't share my taste and that's fine. But the question is, do people find these stories erotic? Do they actually find them arousing?

In the typical BTB story, there is no "good" sex. Sex is portrayed as an act of betrayal, and a negative experience, unless the husband who is cheated on finds a good woman after dumping the cheating wife. These stories have always seemed un-erotic to me and it's curious to me they're so popular at a Site featuring erotic stories.

 

[gordo12]

Here's my question. I know some people love the revenge aspect. I don't but I realize many don't share my taste and that's fine. But the question is, do people find these stories erotic? Do they actually find them arousing?

In the typical BTB story, there is no "good" sex. Sex is portrayed as an act of betrayal, and a negative experience, unless the husband who is cheated on finds a good woman after dumping the cheating wife. These stories have always seemed un-erotic to me and it's curious to me they're so popular at a Site featuring erotic stories.

From your lips to the trolls ears. I don't understand the readers either. Or perhaps I should say the commenters.

 

[jaF0]

Here's my question. I know some people love the revenge aspect. I don't but I realize many don't share my taste and that's fine. But the question is, do people find these stories erotic? Do they actually find them arousing?

In the typical BTB story, there is no "good" sex.

I see the writers of it and those who comment that way as moralists trying to shame everyone who feels differently,. To them, copulation is for procreation and never recreational or 'good'.

 

[SimonDoom]

I see the writers of it and those who comment that way as moralists trying to shame everyone who feels differently,. To them, copulation is for procreation and never recreational or 'good'.

For many of them I think you might be right. But I also wonder if for some of them all that stern moralizing itself gives them a little erotic tingle, recalling the old SNL skit about the Church Lady who got a special thrill about asking "Could it be Satan?"

 

[gordo12]

For many of them I think you might be right. But I also wonder if for some of them all that stern moralizing itself gives them a little erotic tingle, recalling the old SNL skit about the Church Lady who got a special thrill about asking "Could it be Satan?"

I'm not sure about an erotic tingle. There is always somebody striving to the best at everything. The most moral. the most religious. The biggest slut. The smartest ...whatever!

It's human nature. They see others posting horrible things and try to outdo them. I believe it's that mentality that drives them.

 

[SimpleEnigma]

My take on those commenters who express contempt for content they feel is abhorrent:

I had a strict religious upbringing. When I discovered masturbation at a young age I would feel an incredible sense of guilt afterward, so much so that I tried to atone for the deed by praying, Hail Mary's, all that jive.

I truly believe there are similar emotions at play here for those commenters who constantly deride authors and become preachy. Think about it: they come to a porn site, which they may have to do secretly, get aroused at something that is taboo in their normal, sheltered, everyday lives, and then they feel guilty about it. How to atone? Berate the author of such filth, pound on the pulpit so it makes them feel better about themselves. But you notice, they keep coming back, just like I kept right on masturbating after my guilt was cleansed by penance. It seems to me that in most of these silly comments, they aren't upset about the sex per se, they are upset about sex portrayed in ways that make them feel uncomfortable. And if it makes them feel uncomfortable, by God, everyone should.

 

[gordo12]

My take on those commenters who express contempt for content they feel is abhorrent:

I had a strict religious upbringing. When I discovered masturbation at a young age I would feel an incredible sense of guilt afterward, so much so that I tried to atone for the deed by praying, Hail Mary's, all that jive.

I truly believe there are similar emotions at play here for those commenters who constantly deride authors and become preachy. Think about it: they come to a porn site, which they may have to do secretly, get aroused at something that is taboo in their normal, sheltered, everyday lives, and then they feel guilty about it. How to atone? Berate the author of such filth, pound on the pulpit so it makes them feel better about themselves. But you notice, they keep coming back, just like I kept right on masturbating after my guilt was cleansed by penance. It seems to me that in most of these silly comments, they aren't upset about the sex per se, they are upset about sex portrayed in ways that make them feel uncomfortable. And if it makes them feel uncomfortable, by God, everyone should.

I like that. With your permission, I think I'd quote it on comment threads when they get going. Or some derivative of it.

 

[tomlitilia]

My take on those commenters who express contempt for content they feel is abhorrent:

I had a strict religious upbringing. When I discovered masturbation at a young age I would feel an incredible sense of guilt afterward, so much so that I tried to atone for the deed by praying, Hail Mary's, all that jive.

I truly believe there are similar emotions at play here for those commenters who constantly deride authors and become preachy. Think about it: they come to a porn site, which they may have to do secretly, get aroused at something that is taboo in their normal, sheltered, everyday lives, and then they feel guilty about it. How to atone? Berate the author of such filth, pound on the pulpit so it makes them feel better about themselves. But you notice, they keep coming back, just like I kept right on masturbating after my guilt was cleansed by penance. It seems to me that in most of these silly comments, they aren't upset about the sex per se, they are upset about sex portrayed in ways that make them feel uncomfortable. And if it makes them feel uncomfortable, by God, everyone should.

This is likely true for some, but I suspect there are also many who simply love to hate women and want to read about them suffer in a btb fashion. When that doesn't happen in a story, the haters have to spew hate themselves.

 

[SimonDoom]

This is likely true for some, but I suspect there are also many who simply love to hate women and want to read about them suffer in a btb fashion. When that doesn't happen in a story, the haters have to spew hate themselves.

The comments to BTB stories, which are voluminous, are revealing and support this idea. They often focus on what a "bitch" the woman is, as though she is a real person, and really savor her punishment. Conversely, when she doesn't get properly punished they seem to take it very personally. One gets the sense these readers are bringing a lot of real-life baggage to the table when they read these stories, over and over.

 

[CZOFTW]

I truly believe there are similar emotions at play here for those commenters who constantly deride authors and become preachy. Think about it: they come to a porn site, which they may have to do secretly, get aroused at something that is taboo in their normal, sheltered, everyday lives, and then they feel guilty about it. How to atone? Berate the author of such filth, pound on the pulpit so it makes them feel better about themselves. But you notice, they keep coming back, just like I kept right on masturbating after my guilt was cleansed by penance. It seems to me that in most of these silly comments, they aren't upset about the sex per se, they are upset about sex portrayed in ways that make them feel uncomfortable. And if it makes them feel uncomfortable, by God, everyone should.

While reading this I had a mental picture of Jane Seymour in Wedding Crashers telling Owen Wilson to feel her tits, clearly enjoying it (maybe even a small orgasm) and then suddenly turning on him and calling him disgusting.

Honestly, the idea of LW used to bother me until I realized I wasn't married to any of those women and I certainly never pictured my wife in the stories. Same thing for mother/son incest though father daughter kinda creeps me out - not judging the people who like it. A sensuous woman struggling to control her sexuality is about the sexiest thing in the world as far as I'm concerned and most LW is voyeuristic and focused on her pleasure. Yummy!

 

[LisaVegas]

I have had a varied and good sex life over the years, and have personally sampled many of the categories listed here, even including some fetish stuff.

However, I spend much of my time on this board in the Loving Wives and Exhibition and Voyeur sections, mostly because of the many good memories with wives and girlfriends in my past.

However, if I open a story, and it starts down the cuckold or humiliation path, 99% of the time I exit out and don't even bother reading the rest, as it is a waste of time and doesn't relate to me or my experience at all.

I believe that they should be two separate categories, as apparently that is a turn-on for some readers, or it wouldn't written about.

I completely agree. I don't humiliate my hub when he watches or when he can't which is more so. I do know some wives that do humiliate their hub. I assume they love it. To each their own. I never refer to my hub as a cuck but he does love to watch (and clean).

 

[gunhilltrain]

There have been proposals here before for new categories, but I doubt that will ever happen. The existing categories have been here since - the creation of the site? Does anyone even remember that far back? Well, probably Laurel does.

 

[NoJo]

The mere category title "Loving Wives" is a total-turn off to me, as are the terms "Swingers", "Hanky-Panky" and "Spanking". Basically I don't get turned on by anything jolly.

 

[yowser]

The mere category title "Loving Wives" is a total-turn off to me,

Just for accuracy's sake, "Loving Wives" ought to be renamed "Hating Husbands".

 

[NoJo]

Just for accuracy's sake, "Loving Wives" ought to be renamed "Hating Husbands".

Lol exactly

 

[njlauren]

The Loving wives from what I have been led to believe is a bit of a joke, where loving can be seen to be somewhat facetious. The neat thing about Literotica is that it isn't a wank off site necessarily (still a lot of that on here), it has grown. There are some unbelievable writers on here (some of whom are professional writers I either suspect or know for sure), people like QHM1, the late great DQS (not in life, I mean on here), and so forth, and there are many stories that are great that don't even have much if any erotic content.

I have to admit I enjoy the BTB stories, though it is true that many of them are REALLY misognystic, the Martian Slut Ray is working overdrive in many of these.....I also enjoy the outrageous ones like Saddletramp for their gusto in telling oft bizarre tales. But that kind of story needs a real bitch of a wife, often the wives are like these cardboard cutouts, you look and say "wha?" with the way she acts. It is simply entertainment. Other stories btb or not do hit the emotional center of things, some of the writers have made me cry (there was a recent one whose title has evaded me, where part of it was written from the perspective of a dog whose owner is dying/dies, and involved other couples dealing with cancer and yes, an affair between the wife of a man likely to die and the husband of a woman who dies).

The cuckold tales to me are a mixed bag. Doesn't do much for me erotically, but what I really can't stand is when it is cruel, when the wife is really into humiliating and hurting the hubby, it just comes of as pure sadism and yuck (it is like BD/SM, being into that myself, or having been, there is loving bd/sm and d/s, and then there is what I like to call, "yikes", that is about as erotic and watching a street corner beating. There are ones where it is loving and playful, and if it floats their boat, well, great (me, it might be erotic if it involves the wife with a 6' redhead in a leather dress...*lol*).

What I don't fathom, though, is those where there is a story where it isn't cheating, or brutal cuckolding and the like, where it is swinging or threesomes or whatnot, and the vitriol, all these moralists saying thou shalt not do that, you made your vows, etc. I don't know about everyone else, but I always saw vows as between the two people and that vows like the people change, as long as both agree to them. This is, after all, still an erotic fiction site, is if you have such strong feelings that marriage is sacred etc, what are they doing on here? It is perfectly fine to say "this really sickened me, it totally goes against what I think a relationship is", and that is fine, but the vitriol, the death threats........

I have an idea for a LW story that likely will blow some minds, it deals with I think a lot of things that it means to be a loving wife.....but that is another story

 

[LisaVegas]

I have heard my hub tell others he is a "Professional Watcher". He will be here in June and my boyfriend (he is 28) and I have agreed to let him watch us once. Maybe more see how that goes. He has watched many times sure but it is all situational. Sometimes I enjoy others I don't know watching too.

 

[wifeisslutty]

Sorry, I double posted and not sure how to delete a post.

 

[wifeisslutty]

I think some stories are just straight up hard core cuckold stories, while others are hotwife/sharing type with some cuck themes blended into them. We have been real life swingers for nearly 20 years, and even we aren't always sure where the lines cross, and one genre becomes the other, I think separate categories would force you to read in both categories anyway to find decent stories that may blur the lines a little.

I just posted our first story under loving wives section, but after reading this thread, I am thinking I may have tagged it wrong. I tagged it with cuckold and hot wife. It isn't really a cuck story and doesn't involve husband humiliation or anything. I didn't realize there was such vitriol for this tag, I just wanted some cross over views.

Sometimes I find our wife sharing stories feeling a little cucky, just trying to write the scenes and removing the husband so he can describe what is unfolding, instead of trying to position him somewhere in the scene all the time, making the story more about him instead of the wife. So I felt the need to tag it that way.

 

[TadOverdon]

I think separate categories would force you to read in both categories anyway to find decent stories that may blur the lines a little.

This.