Majority of Americans want illegals deported

[HisArpy]

I see you're as unserious as everyone else here. Won't be engaging with you after this.


you disprove your own claim.

Oh just grow the fuck up and stop with the crap. If you throw out bullshit you should expect to be called on it. Crying about it just makes you look and sound stupid.

The point is the IRS doesn't have the resources to send that letter, much less follow up on it. The fraud isn't detected until whomever goes to file their tax return. At that point, the burden falls on them, not the illegal, not the employer that hired him, and not the IRS.

The IRS sends those letters routinely. There's an entire specialized legal industry which revolves around telling employers what they can and can't do. So believe me, you're under informed as to what really goes on in this regard.

There's no law that prevents an employer from verifying someone's identity, but I wager you know that, you just wanna pin all the blame on the political party you hate, lol.

Lol.

The EEOC says otherwise

I wager you also know that a lot of employers deliberately turn a blind eye to obvious fraud because they like cheap labor.

Yes, I know this. However, YOU posted that we should hold those employers to task for it while I pointed out that the law prohibits employers from doing anything about it.

Your political party benefits from this broken system just as much as woke Democrats. Who do you think broke the back of organized labor?

I already acknowledge this. Can't you read?

Do you think natural born citizens are lining up to work in meat packing plants for minimum wage with no health benefits?

lol.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/omaha-immigration-workplace-raid-aftermath-rcna212931

MAHA, Neb. — Every seat in the waiting area of Glenn Valley Foods was occupied with people filling out job applications early Thursday afternoon, two days after the meatpacking plant became the center of the largest worksite immigration raid in the state of Nebraska so far this year.

Dozens of prospective employees, many of them Spanish speakers, had been coming in and out of the plant all day. Some were hoping to land a new job; others were coming in for training.

Those jobs used to be held by African-Americans. They got pushed out in favor of illegals when they had the chutzpah to demand better working conditions.

And? What has this got to do with the topic under discussion?

Truly fixing this system will require doing things that will piss partisans on both sides off. You'd know that if you were a serious person.

Fixing the problem is impossible because of those very partisans you dismiss. You're NEVER going to solve a problem as long as those in power depend on illegal workers and the process to change that involves voluntary compliance.

Which is something every serious person understands.

 

[Hel_Books]

Truly fixing this system will require doing things that will piss partisans on both sides off. You'd know that if you were a serious person.

This all reminds me of the nuttiness involved in Prohibition a century ago.

Yes, alcohol does bad things.

The solution isn't to pass a law forbidding it and send in the storm troopers to smash beer kegs, then watch the corruption permeate government and gunfire erupt in the streets!

You need a system that lets in lots of refugees and immigrants, gives them a path to citizenship while learning English, assures them they won't be exploited by the meatpackers, construction companies, agribusinesses etc.

If not, your country will end up poorer, less dynamic and with a declining population.

Think again about why Ellis Island is a landmark.

 

[Sir_Timo_Volodok]

assures them they won't be exploited by the meatpackers, construction companies, agribusinesses etc.

That requires stopping the above from exploiting US Citizens too.

Also, you left out the tech industry in your list. H-1Bs are great on paper. I've known folks who genuinely qualified as representatives of the top of their field. All too often though, it's legalized indentured servitude, meant to undercut American wages.

The solution isn't to pass a law forbidding it and send in the storm troopers to smash beer kegs

Fun fact, prohibition was sold to the populace as outlawing spirits. That's how the 18th amendment is written. After it passed, Congress passed the Volstead Act, which swept up beer and wine too.

If the folks behind the amendment had been honest with their intentions it's doubtful it would ever have passed.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
assures them they won't be exploited by the meatpackers, construction companies, agribusinesses etc.

That requires stopping the above from exploiting US Citizens too.

Always a good idea. If the system is designed to victimize the people on the bottom rung of the ladder, it's not unlikely the rot will spread until everyone except the Elon Musks of the nation is caught up in it (and even he might end up under the bus if Orange Julius Caesar is displeased with him)

 

[TastySuckToy]

*snip*

All of which is neatly avoided and solved by one simple solution: don't enter a country illegally.

If illegal immigrants cannot figure that out, they have no one to blame but themselves for the mess it creates.

 

[Wilson23]

All of which is neatly avoided and solved by one simple solution: don't enter a country illegally.

If illegal immigrants cannot figure that out, they have no one to blame but themselves for the mess it creates.

Well, that raises another question nobody seems to be able to answer:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...-it-so-hard-to-enter-the-u-s-legally.1646811/

 

[John_von_Neumann]

NastyCuckBoi would happily take Trump straight up his A...lberta, Canada.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
When people are told that the people to be deported are "the worse of the worst," of course they want them deported.

But a refugee from a war-ravaged country brought to the USA at age 6? A Mexican who's worked at a car wash in Los Angeles for twenty years and raised a family? The roofer employed by the company that repaired your house, who sends half his pay to his mother in Costa Rica? The people picking your apples and cabbages?

When people learned that the deportees weren't "El Chapo" but that nice guy José washing dishes at the diner, or five year old Liam Conejo Ramos or other people they know AREN'T the worst (not even the least bit bad) then the opinion polls said something different.

All of which is neatly avoided and solved by one simple solution: don't enter a country illegally.

If illegal immigrants cannot figure that out, they have no one to blame but themselves for the mess it creates.

Indeed!

But here in the real world, there are refugees, there are economic migrants, there are businesses that want cheap labour and will hire people under the table if there is no proper legal framework to hire immigrants.

Saying, "don't enter the country illegally" sounds like someone in your country 100 years ago saying Prohibition was a simple solution: everybody stop drinking.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Well, that raises another question nobody seems to be able to answer:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...-it-so-hard-to-enter-the-u-s-legally.1646811/

Countries are not obligated to make it easy for immigration into them.

Indeed!

But here in the real world, there are refugees, there are economic migrants, there are businesses that want cheap labour and will hire people under the table if there is no proper legal framework to hire immigrants.

None of which excuses entering or remaining in a country illegally.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Indeed!

But here in the real world, there are refugees, there are economic migrants, there are businesses that want cheap labour and will hire people under the table if there is no proper legal framework to hire immigrants.

None of which excuses entering or remaining in a country illegally.

Of course not. And your country is well within its rights to forbid refugees from applying for asylum. It is well within its rights to forbid anyone but its citizens to work in its fields, factories and construction sites.

It is also well within its legal rights to maintain a chaotic, brutal system that gets people killed and exploits poor labourers.

How's that working out for you?

 

[Typo Fu Master]

Also Typo Fu Master: People shouldn't be banned for breaking the forum rules, and reporting them for doing so is wrong.

There is a dead thread you made that needs your attention.

As usual, you don't care about the topic. It's all about the "gotcha".

The quote you're referring to is about Lit's rules and not about illegal immigration.

We're all anonymous here. Hopefully. What someone says on a forum affects me much less than someone profiting from being here illegally.

 

[TastySuckToy]

your country is well within its rights to forbid refugees from applying for asylum. It is well within its rights to forbid anyone but its citizens to work in its fields, factories and construction sites.

Agreed.

 

[RoryN]

As usual, you don't care about the topic. It's all about the "gotcha".

You Deplorables create your own "gotchas" through your hypocrisy.

It's not our fault when we point them out and make you squeal like stuck pigs. Learn how to own your words like an adult.

The quote you're referring to is about Lit's rules and not about illegal immigration.

The quote I'm referring to is a reference to double standards you MAGA dumbshits deal in as your primary language.

Cry some more.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

You Deplorables create your own "gotchas" through your hypocrisy.

It's not our fault when we point them out and make you squeal like stuck pigs. Learn how to own your words like an adult.



The quote I'm referring to is a reference to double standards you MAGA dumbshits deal in as your primary language.

Cry some more.

Why do you torture yourself? It is over after a simple squeeze. You probably won't even hear the noise or feel anything. Do it for your Mama. You know the misery you have put her through.

Laughable tripe. Everyone viewing the video can see she was turning away from the scumbag murderer. He was off to the side when he fired.

Hopefully he gets the Charlie Kirk.

Please research scientists, release a new 100% deadly Covid virus that only kills anti-vax MAGAtards.

Rid this country of every gram of their evil genetic material.

I don't think Renee Good stormed into the US Capitol? There should have been at least 300 more bled out corpses piled like cord wood beside Babbitt.

Here's some double standards for you. Be sure to quote them in your violations thread.

 

[pinkparkhorse]

Deport every last illegal as soon as possible.

 

[RachelWalsh]

Can we deport Bovine Swine?

 

[RoryN]

You Deplorables create your own "gotchas" through your hypocrisy. Learn how to own your words like an adult.

No. But here are words from other people.

Here's some double standards for you. Be sure to quote them in your violations thread.

What sort of additional brain damage do you have that makes you feel I should dedicate my time to other violations per your wishes? How have you earned that?

Make your own thread. I can refer you to a tutorial.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

What sort of additional brain damage do you have that makes you feel I should dedicate my time to other violations per your wishes? How have you earned that?

Make your own thread. I can refer you to a tutorial.

You quote yourself. You put words in my mouth. You refuse to acknowledge the posts I provided.

[Smiley face]

 

[RoryN]

You refuse to acknowledge the posts I provided.

So now you want people to report posts?

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

most likely americans only wants illegal immigrants who are criminals and super villains deported

 

[Wilson23]

most likely americans only wants illegal immigrants who are criminals and super villains deported

Well, they're ALL supervillains!

 

[Typo Fu Master]

So now you want people to report posts?

Is it ok if I voted Democrat?

 

[RoryN]

Is it ok if I voted Democrat?

Not gonna answer the question?

Par for the course.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

Not gonna answer the question?

Par for the course.

Not gonna acknowledge that the posts I provided qualify for banning?

 

[eric_erosfan]

Here's some double standards for you. Be sure to quote them in your violations thread.

Cool. I have an admirer. Found all my greatest hits.