Mental Bondage

[sweetnpetite]

another unfamiliar term, what's SAMs?
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Except for SAMs
much of BDSM is physical punishment and reward
centered
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I think I figured out what you meant. I just read the one post wrong I think. Even though we're talking about BDSM, I thought maybe you were speaking "outside the box" IF that makes sence. I feel about as clear as mud too!

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

another unfamiliar term, what's SAMs?
*********************
Except for SAMs
much of BDSM is physical punishment and reward
centered
********************

I think I figured out what you meant. I just read the one post wrong I think. Even though we're talking about BDSM, I thought maybe you were speaking "outside the box" IF that makes sence. I feel about as clear as mud too!

Sweet...a SAM is a Smart-Assed Masochist. A sub who would deliberately provoke their Dom to get punished.

I found this at http://www.houseofdesade.org/humour/sam.htm

I thought it was hilarious!!

Some people really want to be Smart-Assed Masochists, but they can't quite get the hang of it. Here's a few things they can do to become a genuine certified SAM.

Sing 'Happy Birthday To Me' and blow out the candle during wax play
Draw a picture of an open hand on your ass. Then draw a red circle around it. Finish up by putting a slash through the circle
In the middle of an intense cropping, close your eyes and start to snore
During a scene, do a Howard Cosell impression and provide a play-by-play account of what is being done to you
If your Dom/me tells you to 'Look me in the eyes', do it cross-eyed
If your Dom/me decides to do a verbal humiliation scene with you in public, stick your fingers in your ears and say 'Neener, neener, neener, I can't hear you!'
Decorate your Dom/me's leathers with oil painted neon polka dots and stripes
Place a whoopee cushion on your Dom/me's favorite chair
Use the toybag for dirty laundry. Forget to switch the contents back before the next play party

ok...LOL, hijack over



~anelize

 

[ChemE_student]

That's hysterical! I had no idea there was a term that described me, but that's exactly the sort of thing I would do just to get punished! It works, too, but only if you don't do it every time. After all, almost anyone would get bored with that after a while.

In a related note, the mental bondage thing is one I've played with a little bit, but mostly when I masturbate. I often tie myself up with real ropes before I play, but sometimes I just give myself rules about how I can move and what I can touch. It can be a lot of fun.

Also related, my friend TNRkitect2b wrote a great story about some very sexy mental bondage; I'll ask him to come over here and let you know when the story gets posted. I enjoyed it a great deal, but I don't want to give away his plot without his permission.

I have enjoyed reading this thread, so I hope more people will contribute.

 

[Richard49]

I have enjoyed reading this thread, so I hope more people will contribute.

Glad you made it here

Please remember that there are two views of mental bondage here

1) is as you were describing
2) the other is psychological domination

 

[Richard49]

SAM

The way I deal with SAMs and others like them is
1) in the begining find out what the submissive finds
as punishment and what they find as a reward

2) if they are a SAM then NOT use pain as a punishment

 

[Red__Herring]

The way I deal with SAMs and others like them is
1) in the begining find out what the submissive finds
as punishment and what they find as a reward

2) if they are a SAM then NOT use pain as a punishment

What else then?

 

[Master_Doctor]

SAMs and Brats and Punishments

What else then?

See, in my experience, Punishment should only be used as a corrective tool. To correct inapproptiate or bad behavior on the part of the sub. That is in accordance to esablished and negotiated norms in the structure of an Authoritative Dynamic. TPE, M/s and some DD/s and D/s for instance.

You never give them what they consider a reward.. or enjoy as punishment. That defeats the purpose and blurs the lines between punishment and funishment. Each person is unique and the Dom must find punishments that are uniquely effective to the sub in question. So the answer to your question.. so something the sub would not like at all... and never something she enjoys.

Punishing a sub with acts she enjoys... only creates a Brat and begins the development of a SAM. Trust me. If I punish a sub. She will NOT want it. Even the SAM's Ive had.. do not like the feeling of my disapointment in them... even if part of them enjoys the act of punishment.

What do I mean by a brat? If a lazy Dom tries to punish a new sub as he did with an old one, not taking the time to get to know how the mind works of the new one... they might try to punish with pain... ie spanking, whiping or anything in between. Well if the new sub is a pain slut. The lazy Dom is only encouraging the sub to break the rules to get what they crave... in this case pain. So the sub will act out.... thinking thats how the game is played to get what they want... often times embaressing, angering the Dom. So instead of giving her solid struction and helping her to become his obiedient, good girl... she becomes a brat... and its not ever the subs fault... it would be the fault of a lazy Dom who assumes all subs react the same.

Personally. I dont enjoy brats. I want a sub I can be proud of and give her rules to help her to improve herself and to obtain the goals she has in life. If she wants to play.. and be snarky... thats great. But there is a time and a place. I have had some experiences with SAMS... some good and some bad. The ones that understand, Time and place... I can woek with. The ones that cant do that.. and act out in public... those ive had to pass...

Not trying to answer for anyone else... just jumping into the conversation.

Master Doctor

 

[sweettalk4u]

Take all the feelings associated with physical bondage, helplessness, safety, security, and Imagine a cage in your sub’s mind. Then imagine the mental exercises you can say to them or have them do that will put them in that cage. Predicament bondage, where you place them in a situation or have them wear something to work might work too. A lot depends on the people involved

 

[Conager]

A couple of different play partners had interest in bondage but trust issues about it. I found having them hold tight to a headboard and imagine they were bound effective. Another technique was to tie a strap to their wrist, wrap if around an anchor then have them hold tight to the loose end. All they have to do to "escape" is let go. They didn't.

I am unfamiliar with the term "mental bondage" but reading other's ideas about it brought the above to mind.