Mount Rushmore

[4est_4est_Gump]

Nope.

I don't play the Sgt ST-st-st-stutter "Answer the question" game.

If you have a statement to make, make it. On page five, I'm not going to waste any fucking time on a question posed on page two and clearly, no one else wants to play your little game either, so why don't you just give us what you think the answer to the question is.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Romans emperors were often a bad lot — but usually confirmed as such only in retrospect. Monsters such as Nero, of the first-century A.D. Julio-Claudian dynasty, or the later psychopaths Commodus and Caracalla, were flattered by toadies when alive — only to be despised the moment they dropped.

After unhinged emperors were finally killed off, the sycophantic Senate often proclaimed a damnatio memoriae (a “damnation of memory”). Prior commemoration was wiped away, thereby robbing the posthumous ogre of any legacy and hence any existence for eternity. In more practical matters, there followed a concurrent abolitio memoriae (an “erasing of memory”).

...

Abolition of memory is easy when the revisionists enjoy the high moral ground and the damned are evil incarnate. But more often, killing the dead is not an easy a matter of dragon slaying, as with Hitler or Stalin. Confederate General Joe Johnston was not General Stonewall Jackson and after the war General John Mosby was not General Wade Hampton, just as Ludwig Beck was not Joachim Peiper.

...

What about the morally ambiguous persecution of sinners such as the current effort in California to damn the memory of Father Junipero Serra and erase his eponymous boulevards, to punish his supposedly illiberal treatment of Native Americans in the early missions some 250 years ago?

California Bay Area zealots are careful to target Serra but not Leland Stanford, who left a more detailed record of his own 19th-century anti-non-white prejudices, but whose university brand no progressive student of Stanford would dare to erase, because doing so would endanger his own studied trajectory to the good life. We forget that there are other catalysts than moral outrage that calibrate the targets of abolitio memoriae.

Victor Davis Hanson, NRO
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/450689/print

 

[IrezumiKiss]

This to me screams that this is a political movement, not one of true outrage. Blacks have political power, Indians don't, therefore the SJW is never going to lift a finger or raise his voice in outrage, for he gains nothing from it.

BLM in support for NoDAPL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrJ8lpIVMAAv6hx.jpg

http://blacklivesmatter.com/solidarity-with-standing-rock/

I never forgot my red sisters and brothers, even I share a bit of that blood. Keep cracking foxy on a porn board where it's safe for squawking snowflake asses, though.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...

It is not enough for such cults that statues representing America’s so-called “original sin” must be destroyed, including the ones representing the best the American South had to offer. Free speech is also to be suppressed. History and language itself must be reformed to show and tell only one story. That is why radical feminists sought to change the English language, and it is why the latest permutation of the cultic Left seeks to change language once again to reflect gender neutral terminology. The idea is to prevent anyone who disagrees from having the use of a language whereby they may express opposition. It is hard to write about the rights of men and women if the very pronouns indicating sex are eliminated and other pronouns which are essentially the equivalent of “it” are substituted for “he” and “she.” Destruction of the means to articulate one’s thought clearly is the very essence of brainwashing, for thought and language are inextricably intertwined.

It is increasingly clear the final goal of the Left involves far more than an attack against anything seen as racism; far more than virtue signaling by tearing down the statues erected in memory of the great Robert E. Lee. The ultimate goal is to disable rational thinking and to ensure the destruction of memory.

There are, in short, ways to silence voices other than to not allow the opposition to speak. There is a way to make speech meaningless by rendering language meaningless; to annihilate the ability to think altogether -- a sort of mental nihilism; a Sherman’s march through the brain....

Fay Voshell

This is exactly how the Nazis achieved their goals. It is the rise of a new totalitarian movement.

http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...f_the_confederate_vanities.html#ixzz4qZShaYym

 

[jaF0]

Repeatedly posting the American Drinker is not helping your case.

 

[adrina]

Always comes down to you name calling and running off.

Typical Adrina.

There's no discussion to be had with you. Ever really. Somewhere between your need to find a fight and your lack of adherence to reality... Not worth the time. Or the frustration. I anticipate this reply to be a waste of time as well. When a person is more interested in having a fight than having a discussion... well 2 + 2....

Repeatedly posting the American Drinker is not helping your case.

Not one little bit.

 

[Pookie]

We need a choir...

Might I suggest Jackyl?

Excellent choice!

Blue Oyster Cult for revivals? I can recite Godzilla from the ten million times my dad played it.

 

[Rightguide]

It should be near Butte, Montana.

Or the Royal Gorge in Colorado.

 

[Rightguide]

Really? Just who is it that's whining/demanding about tearing everything down? Just who is it that thinks destroying a few monuments and renaming some places is going to make things "all better?"

Quite honestly I hope you immature snowflakes keep it up.

Ishmael

I love the way, like all libs, Adrina projects her snowflake political species to others.

 

[adrina]

I love the way, like all libs, Adrina projects her snowflake political species to others.

You're the same moron today that you were yesterday and you'll still be that same moron tomorrow.

You get points for consistency.

 

[BotanyBoy]

There's no discussion to be had with you.

Sure there is, you just have to be an adult and discuss things instead of deflecting and hiding behind your vag.

That shit is just blood in the water.....

 

[DrDelirium]

It should be near Butte, Montana.

I have the site picked out: Big Butte, Idaho.

http://images.summitpost.org/original/132459.jpg

 

[adrina]

Sure there is, you just have to be an adult and discuss things instead of deflecting and hiding behind your vag.

That shit is just blood in the water.....

Seriously?

Grow up.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Excellent choice!

Blue Oyster Cult for revivals? I can recite Godzilla from the ten million times my dad played it.

I can too, but I'd go with ME262 because, you know, Jumpin' Geronimo...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Oh yeah, and it ties into Nazis too!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Repeatedly posting the American Drinker is not helping your case.

It gives him plausible deniability if the article blows up in his face. He simply recites the Vetteman Creed:

• I never SAID I agreed with it!
• I never even RESPONDED to it!
• I was simply...PASSING IT ALONG!

The Chief's oft-stated mission here is to turn Lit into "Stormfront With Tits".

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...

President Woodrow Wilson ensured that the Armed Forces were not integrated. He also segregated civil service agencies. Why, then, does Princeton University still cling to its Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs? To honor a progressive who did a great deal of harm to African-American causes?

Wilson's progressive racism, dressed up in pseudo-scientific theories, was perhaps more pernicious than that of the old tribal racists of the South, given that it was not regionally centered and was professed to be fact-based and ecumenical, with the power of the presidency behind it.

In the current logic, Klan membership certainly should be a disqualifier of public commemoration. Why are there public buildings and roads still dedicated to the late Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, former "exalted cyclops" of his local Klan affiliate, who reportedly never shook his disgusting lifelong habit of using the N-word?

Why is 20th century Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, once a Klansman, still honored as a progressive hero?

So, what are the proper rules of exemption for progressives when waging war against the dead?

...

Victor Davis Hanson

https://townhall.com/columnists/vic...the-progressive-war-against-the-dead-n2372320

 

[Saint Peter]

Alright.

Black bag over all statues of that fucker.

Pronto.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What about reassessing the Kennedys?

For example: Teddy's support of Governor Wallace?

https://townhall.com/columnists/lar...ents-what-about-the-kennedy-brothers-n2372446

 

[RobDownSouth]

Alright.

Black bag over all statues of that fucker.

Pronto.

Just call it a hood and everyone's happy.

 

[Ishmael]

Victor Davis Hanson

https://townhall.com/columnists/vic...the-progressive-war-against-the-dead-n2372320

Isn't this just another chapter in the continuing liberal saga of holding two conflicting beliefs simultaneously? How many times have we posited the same questions, albeit on different subjects, over the years?

Ishmael

 

[Rightguide]

You're the same moron today that you were yesterday and you'll still be that same moron tomorrow.

You get points for consistency.

Whether yesterday today or tomorrow, I will always be your intellectual superior and a moderating force in the face of your angry hysteria. Take it to the friggin bank and try and calm down.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Isn't this just another chapter in the continuing liberal saga of holding two conflicting beliefs simultaneously? How many times have we posited the same questions, albeit on different subjects, over the years?

Ishmael

Comfortably compartmentalized...


When you do it it's a sin. When we do it, it's okay because we always say we're sorry. Don't pin Jim Crow on the Democrats. And we're not going to say we're sorry because "those" Democrats switched parties when WE passed the Civil Rights bill!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Comfortably compartmentalized...


When you do it it's a sin. When we do it, it's okay because we always say we're sorry. Don't pin Jim Crow on the Democrats. And we're not going to say we're sorry because "those" Democrats switched parties when WE passed the Civil Rights bill!

Oh the irony of YOU lecturing anyone on compartmentalization. Your Glibertarian mindset ("Rules for thee, but not for me!") allows you to yammer on about the need for less gummint regulation everywhere, while simultaneously insisting on federal prohibitions on abortion. SAD!

 

[Rightguide]

Alright.

Black bag over all statues of that fucker.

Pronto.

Because she has an obvious relationship to the racist Democrat past, shall we gag and cover Shiela Jackson Lee in a black shroud in the House of Representatives as well. Just wondering.