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Tinypaws said:
woah, heh.. got a bit serious there ;)
Oh Ive bairly started :cool:

for my GCSE I gave a 2hr lecture on Osama Bin Laden
I sent 1 1/2 hours doing a quick introduction to Isreal/Palestine for a debate socity I belonged to in school
and I did a debate in my uni bebate socity on "should hamas be in the political process" and spent about an hour answering questions instead of debating! lol
 
RocknRoll said:
yes... they had a reason for hijacking the planes... they had wives and children and familes as well...

they seemed monolitilic and evil... with a bit of shaking here and there, but no explaination of who they were or why they were here... needed a little bit right at the begining of the movie, just overviewing the US terrorism in the Middle East over the past 50 years... either indirectly with the support of Isreal and the funding of Egypt to support the FNL in Aden (Now South Yemin) agasint the British oil depot there... or directly with training of orgainiseations such as the Talaban and AL Qedea when they fought the Russians in Afganistan. The humiliation of many Arabs by occuping the Holy lands of Sudi and Iraq and indeed, in the latter, not having the support of the Arab forces and going their own way, and then letting the Kurds and Shira get slaugter after telling them to stand up and telling them they would support.

The Al Q attacks on the US just took a step up... and I have done reseach into this area (my disatation at uni is on the Middle East) you will understand how messy it is but watching the Movie Munich... which is quite acccurate given the evidence given... just things getting out of control by those who do not really know whats going on... like the CIA funding Black September so they would not attack US personal....

any more reasons?

..well....there are always different sides in any conflict...

..and when a country..or region, is looking out for itself...it will always try act in it's best interests.....before and after 9/11

..anything the US does or did anywhere in the world is to preserve itself....to grow itself.....

..anyone objecting to that has the right to fight.....no question....

...and any troubled person deserves sympathy...if not empathy.....

...but this movie is just that..it's just a stupid movie....not made by the US Gov't......but by self important......money grubbing Hollywood types.....

..it was not US propaganda...and the filmakers owe nothing to the villians in the movie......it was just another piece of shit that Hollywood churned out.....

...showing the enemy sympathy would have hurt the movie at the box office.......and offended most of the viewers I suspect.....

....I'm sure there are plenty of indie films that will humanize the people that highjacked those plains.......
 
deliverer

the villians? thats a bit harsh on them... well it does show hatred towards a German (unverified and thb racist)...

Propaganda does not need to come from a goverment, but it just retells the story of the American underdog striving agasint the odds to survive.... happens in allot of US movies, goverment or not...

any viewers that would be offened by showing sympathy to the Arabs really need to look outside the tiny box they live in... Yes I am sorry for people that lost their lives in that attack... but what about the tens thousands of Arabs killed off by the Americans? Just like in Black Hawk Down, Americans have long slow painful deaths with lots of wounds and suffering... the Samalis really just fall over dead, no suffering... its not uncommon and its a shame

and they owe everything to the "villians" without them they have no movie...
 
RocknRoll said:
deliverer

the villians? thats a bit harsh on them... well it does show hatred towards a German (unverified and thb racist)...

Propaganda does not need to come from a goverment, but it just retells the story of the American underdog striving agasint the odds to survive.... happens in allot of US movies, goverment or not...

any viewers that would be offened by showing sympathy to the Arabs really need to look outside the tiny box they live in... Yes I am sorry for people that lost their lives in that attack... but what about the tens thousands of Arabs killed off by the Americans? Just like in Black Hawk Down, Americans have long slow painful deaths with lots of wounds and suffering... the Samalis really just fall over dead, no suffering... its not uncommon and its a shame

and they owe everything to the "villians" without them they have no movie...

..lol..it's not harsh to call them villians...because within the context they are the villians....

..and what about the tens of thousands of Arabs who have died...

..what about all the people that die everyday throughout history....so what...that's not what we are talking about......and it doesn't matter either...

..when you go to a sporting event do you root for the visiting team....?
Americans going to American movies root for the home team...sorry if you don't like it....

...guys like you are always pointing out how unfair and unkind America is....

so what if it is.........do you think any Arab would give America a fair shake....?

America is no different than any place else...immense power and wealth comes with certain trappings......

..and All I was saying is that to point out that there was no sympathy for the terroists is silly because that is not the objective of that movie....

..and it's not propaganda either..it's just a crappy attempt at entertainment for sale....
 
deliverer have you seen the movie?

and the Arab killings are relevent as it is what drives the attacks on the world trade centre

I would advise you read the do "Why Do People Hate America?" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0971394253/002-4107316-4345612?v=glance&n=283155

very good book explaining allot of things... and dont say anythign about it until you have read it...

so what if it is.........do you think any Arab would give America a fair shake....?
There are some beauitufl Iranian movies that do
 
KraZyCisco said:
Mmmm, very nice. More please?


My pics are linked in my sig, check em out.. more pics will be a little later ;)
The other half has the naughty camera. :)
 
RocknRoll said:
The weridest thing is...

I can see Monty Python doing something like this :p

I would enjoy it.. heh.
Monty Python are trully the kings. I :heart: them. :D
 
Tinypaws said:
I would enjoy it.. heh.
Monty Python are trully the kings. I :heart: them. :D
TV series or Movies?

And which is your fave movie by them? :p
 
RocknRoll said:
TV series or Movies?

And which is your fave movie by them? :p

TV series AND the movies.

Although the movie " now for something completely different" is mainly a load of sketches from their first series..
The life of Brian will always be my favourite film of theirs.. Holy Grail coming 2nd and the Meaning of Life coming in 3rd.
 
Tinypaws said:
TV series AND the movies.

Although the movie " now for something completely different" is mainly a load of sketches from their first series..
The life of Brian will always be my favourite film of theirs.. Holy Grail coming 2nd and the Meaning of Life coming in 3rd.
I didnt like MOL... seemed so... I dunno... some great sketches but others lacked luster...

But HG then LOB for me... but its a very close call... but HG is more random thus I loves it :D
 
Mmmm, love your lips, very luscious looking. Would definitely love to kiss your lips and then have 'em suck my hard cock.
 
RocknRoll said:
I didnt like MOL... seemed so... I dunno... some great sketches but others lacked luster...

But HG then LOB for me... but its a very close call... but HG is more random thus I loves it :D


I like the french taunter in that.. and when Michael Palin is chained to the wall whinging. heh.
MOL wasn't brilliant. a few sick sketches like when the fat man over eats and blows up.. that's just sick.. and th intro to the film is gross aswell.
LOB is just brilliant.. the whole atmosphere that film drags you under is brilliant. He's not the Messiah!

John Cleese and Michael Pailen are my favourites from the whole team.. especially the all famous Parrot Sketch. Brilliant eh?

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
 
KraZyCisco said:
Mmmm, love your lips, very luscious looking. Would definitely love to kiss your lips and then have 'em suck my hard cock.

:kiss: Let the imagination run wild.. I think my lips were made to wrap around a cock. heh
 
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