New Republican Spin

[Karen Kraft]

"Things haven't gotten any better since the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006!"


Uhm...just to remind everyone, the Dems only have slight control. No where near enough to override a BUSH veto.

President Bush used the veto power eleven times; once the pocket veto.

President Clinton used the veto power thirty-six times; plus one pocket veto.

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[Ham Murabi]

JAMA article:

"America's Healthcare System is the Third Leading Cause of Death"

http://www.health-care-reform.net/causedeath.htm

I wonder how the U.S. ranked before the government got directly involved in health care.

 

[Odd_ball]

President Bush used the veto power eleven times; once the pocket veto.

President Clinton used the veto power thirty-six times; plus one pocket veto.

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And what does that have to do with the past 2 years? Absolutely nothing, a deflection to Bubba.

 

[Odd_ball]

I wonder how the U.S. ranked before the government got directly involved in health care.

Since when? Healthcare is controlled by insurance companies, not the government.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Odd_ball]

Then how were they going to save the planet and all of the other bullshit they promised when they took office?

Don't they ALL promise that?

"A chicken in every pot and sunshine and rainbows forever?"

 

[Odd_ball]

And what does that have to do with the past 2 years? Absolutely nothing, a deflection to Bubba.

Also, I'd be willing to bet Bubba's veto's were spread out over his entire 8 years.

The vast majority of Bush's have come in the past 2 years.

Hmmm, I wonder why that is??

 

[Ham Murabi]

Since when? Healthcare is controlled by insurance companies, not the government.

You've never heard of Medicare? Medicaid? Of mandated coverage in insurance? Of the FDA? Of government defining what constitutes an emergency room or a trauma center? Of government paying medical schools to NOT teach more doctors.

 

[Odd_ball]

You've never heard of Medicare? Medicaid? Of mandated coverage in insurance? Of the FDA? Of government defining what constitutes an emergency room or a trauma center? Of government paying medical schools to NOT teach more doctors.

Those are the reasons healthcare is so expensive?

Nope, the reasons are things like malpractice insurance.

You would rather not have an FDA? I will be the first to admit they aren't perfect, but I would argue that INDUSTRY manipulation of the FDA makes it suck.

 

[Ham Murabi]

Those are the reasons healthcare is so expensive?

Nope, the reasons are things like malpractice insurance.

You would rather not have an FDA? I will be the first to admit they aren't perfect, but I would argue that INDUSTRY manipulation of the FDA makes it suck.

You seem to be so hot on looking up stuff on the 'net, why not check out medical costs - the price for a day in a hospital, for instance - from 1960 and compare how they have risen faster than inflation.
Honest data will show the cost of medical care skyrocketed after Medicare (it will never cost more than $8 billion a year, they promised us) was enacted.

 

[Odd_ball]

You seem to be so hot on looking up stuff on the 'net, why not check out medical costs - the price for a day in a hospital, for instance - from 1960 and compare how they have risen faster than inflation.
Honest data will show the cost of medical care skyrocketed after Medicare (it will never cost more than $8 billion a year, they promised us) was enacted.

So, just let all the old folks die?

Might as well scrap social security, as well.

 

[koalabear]

So, just let all the old folks die?

Might as well scrap social security, as well.

Hmmmm.define old!

 

[Odd_ball]

Hmmmm.define old!

Or disabled.

Hammie likes to imagine anyone and everyone qualifies for Medicaide/Care.

 

[Ham Murabi]

So, just let all the old folks die?

Might as well scrap social security, as well.

Did the old folks just die before Medicare? Ask yourself that, Turd. Think about it.
And did old people just starve before Social Security? How many?

 

[koalabear]

Did the old folks just die before Medicare? Ask yourself that, Turd. Think about it.
And did old people just starve before Social Security? How many?

You are talking way back when there used to be families that took care of their Mom and Pop. Easier to file them in a home now and let some Corp. have their SS.

 

[Ham Murabi]

You are talking way back when there used to be families that took care of their Mom and Pop. Easier to file them in a home now and let some Corp. have their SS.

Easier now, but what happens in 20 years when the ratio to retirees/workers is drastically different?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Easier now, but what happens in 20 years when the ratio to retirees/workers is drastically different?

BOOM BOOM


What is it?


OUT GO DA LIGHTS!

 

[koalabear]

Easier now, but what happens in 20 years when the ratio to retirees/workers is drastically different?

Adopt a Chinese orphan now so they will be old enough to care for you.

 

[Ham Murabi]

Adopt a Chinese orphan now so they will be old enough to care for you.

Finally! A real policy solution.

 

[Odd_ball]

Did the old folks just die before Medicare? Ask yourself that, Turd. Think about it.
And did old people just starve before Social Security? How many?

Nice. I knew you didn't give a shit about your fellow Americans.

I sometimes wonder if you even are American.

Seems like you might owe allegiance to some other country.

 

[Odd_ball]

" The 1930 census, for example, found 58 percent of men over 65 still in the workforce; in contrast, by 2002, the figure was 18 percent."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0CEFDE1E38F930A15752C0A9639C8B63


"Keep em' working until they DIE on the job!" Sounds like a communist gulag mentality.