NFL Draft

[RobDownSouth]

His style of play in college won't translate well into the NFL

Absolutely. Give Johnny Football credit where it's due, at the college level he was the absolute master of the busted play, his ability to get positive yardage out of something that should have resulted in negative yards was without peer.

He won't get much of an opportunity to do that in the pros. The level of competition is much tougher, the margin for error much less.

He's a very accomplished shotgun quarterback, but decidedly average for snaps under center.

I suspect he'll have at best a mediocre career.

I'm interested to see how Teddy Bridgewater turns out. He's a field general in the Joe Montana mode, and supposedly reads defenses better than most quarterbacks. I think he'll be the surprise hit of his draft class.

 

[islandman]

49ers trading a conditional 2015 4th-round pick to Buffalo for WR Stevie Johnson, per sources. Pick can become a 3rd.

 

[pointless]

I can't believe so many people are giving him no chance. I'm in the minority, I know, but I expect him to do pretty well. Cleveland hasn't won more than five games in a season for at least five years, and I can't remember the last time they made the playoffs, much less won a playoff game. He's almost bound to help them win more games than they've been winning.

yes, you're right. the fact that they've sucked for years is clearly a sign that this will be a rousing success.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You never know, but not in Cleveland....cold weather city, bad management. He has no chance...

Did he blame one of his losses in college on his inability to grip the ball correctly due to the unseasonably cold weather?

 

[okatty35]

Absolutely. Give Johnny Football credit where it's due, at the college level he was the absolute master of the busted play, his ability to get positive yardage out of something that should have resulted in negative yards was without peer.

He won't get much of an opportunity to do that in the pros. The level of competition is much tougher, the margin for error much less.

He's a very accomplished shotgun quarterback, but decidedly average for snaps under center.

I suspect he'll have at best a mediocre career.

I'm interested to see how Teddy Bridgewater turns out. He's a field general in the Joe Montana mode, and supposedly reads defenses better than most quarterbacks. I think he'll be the surprise hit of his draft class.

I hope you are right about Bridgewater. Huge Adrian Peterson fan and hope he can get some QB play in Minn to help him out. I liked Bridgewater at times but then he can also seem to disappear and his performance at the combine and on the Gruden camp were not good. But in the right system he might be just like you say - good field leader who can get Vikes going in right direction. Norv Turner is pretty good at developing QBs.

 

[toubab]

Did he blame one of his losses in college on his inability to grip the ball correctly due to the unseasonably cold weather?

My understanding is his hands are so large he never developed the habit of using the laces the way most quarterbacks do to maintain a grip on the ball and help spiral it properly during the throw. He can learn to do that.

 

[RjThoughts]

You don't think he can adapt to the NFL?

It will be on him to change, not the Browns change to him.

 

[toubab]

It will be on him to change, not the Browns change to him.

Probably some of both, I would think.

 

[RjThoughts]

Probably some of both, I would think.

No. Manziel's not even the starting qb at this point.

 

[chaz57]

Watkins is the next Megatron, right?

So, who on the Bills will be throwing him the ball next season?

E J Manual

 

[pointless]

No. Manziel's not even the starting qb at this point.

oh, he's gonna be. don't doubt that. with this much hype already they pretty much have to start him.

god, this is going to be another tim tebow. i might have to cancel espn.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I hope you are right about Bridgewater. Huge Adrian Peterson fan and hope he can get some QB play in Minn to help him out. I liked Bridgewater at times but then he can also seem to disappear and his performance at the combine and on the Gruden camp were not good. But in the right system he might be just like you say - good field leader who can get Vikes going in right direction. Norv Turner is pretty good at developing QBs.

I read that as well in many places, it sounds like he really choked at the combine. But I think the combine doesn't really reflect "real world" toughness. We'll see.

 

[chaz57]

49ers trading a conditional 2015 4th-round pick to Buffalo for WR Stevie Johnson, per sources. Pick can become a 3rd.

He's over rated

 

[okatty35]

I read that as well in many places, it sounds like he really choked at the combine. But I think the combine doesn't really reflect "real world" toughness. We'll see.

I watched the clips from both the combine and the Gruden camp and the combine was awful - he was spraying throws all over the place. Gruden deal wasn't as bad but still not very consistent. Still, all in all, he was a big time player in college and Vikes might have a player on their hands to take some heat off AD.

 

[toubab]

No. Manziel's not even the starting qb at this point.

If Manziel doesn't beat out Hoyer for the job in pre-season, he will the first time Hoyer loses a game, unless I miss my guess. The Cleveland fans want to see Johnny Football, not Bryan Hoyer.

 

[chaz57]

I like what The Browns did. They have two 1 st round picks next year

 

[RjThoughts]

If Manziel doesn't beat out Hoyer for the job in pre-season, he will the first time Hoyer loses a game, unless I miss my guess. The Cleveland fans want to see Johnny Football, not Bryan Hoyer.

the fans want to see a winning team. The quarterback can be Otto Graham's ghost and they'd not care.

 

[toubab]

the fans want to see a winning team. The quarterback can be Otto Graham's ghost and they'd not care.

That's true, and as long as Hoyer can win games, he'll keep his job. I doubt it will be too long.

 

[Paendragon]

Pryor is a beast. If they happen to do well and fill in with a good WR in a deep class in post first round they will be OK with it maybe. Dennis Thurman obviously got his way on this pick!

He's a big hitter, but in the Ryan/Thurman defensive model, strong safety is the least important of the defensive backs. The top cover corner in the draft had fallen to them, and corner is the most important position on this defense. They can't use their blitzes if they can't go man on the wife receivers.

Personally, I think the Giants stymied therm by taking the wide receiver they wanted instead of Martin for their terrible offensive line.

 

[islandman]

A brief look at the douchebag that is the Titans' #1 pick:

Shortly after the woman reported the rape, she began to receive threats from Gibbons roommate and fellow football player, Taylor Lewan (now an All-American), that he would rape her again if she pressed charges against Gibbons.

The threats were reported by two other football players to the Office of Student Affairs who reported them to the University police. The University police did a “wellness check” on the young woman[9] and met with Taylor Lewan. They warned Taylor Lewan not to threaten the woman again and that he might face criminal charges[10]. No criminal charges were ever filed by the campus police.


The Cover-up of the Arrest of University of Michigan Football player, Brendan Gibbons, for Rape

 

[toubab]

For the first time since 1937, not one Texas Longhorn football player was selected in the NFL Draft. The Longhorns had six draft hopefuls, among them Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year and All-American Jackson Jeffcoat, but all were left out. Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it, whether Michael Sam is actually better than all of them, and a lot of other players.

 

[Beco]

Sam to the Rams......seems fitting

 

[Cratchit]

i am surprised that McCarron fell so low. I guess the knock on him that he doesnt have a powerful arm proved to be enough to scare off most teams. I saw he posted on twitter about having a chip on his shoulder. Thing is, he won't be competing to be the starter

I dont see Manziel starting any games for the Browns this year.

 

[toubab]

Sam to the Rams......seems fitting

I suspect the Rams took one for the league.

 

[pointless]

shut the fuck up.