Nuva ring... anyone try it yet?

cdobbs12000 said:
My fiance has an IUD it blocks the passage so you cant get pregnant It doesnt have any effect on your hormones and stays in for pretty much as long as you want and can be taken out by a doctor when you are ready to get pregnant, or whatever, the good thing, as stated before, is no effect on your monthly program, it is, i believe, the best choice, oh btw, shes had it in for two and a half years with ZERO problems, to me, and most importantly her, it is the only option

a IUD doesnt block the passage, it uses a weird simplistic science fact to make you rather infertal.

what is the Best controception in the world you ask? why, a penny of course! old fact used in the desert countrys, put a penny in the cammels uterus before you go on a long trek so that the girl cammels doesnt get impregnated by the boy cammels half way through and you gotta nurse it or abandon it.

for some odd reason, (not yet fully understood by the sexual community) copper stops sperm. (even human sperm) so, they had the most brillent idea, lets put a penny in a womans uterus and make her temporarly infertal! and Lo! invented was the IUD!

if i am getting my abervations correct though.

an iud is little plastic T with copper wire wrapped all around it. you then insert it manualy into the uterus and leave it there. some how it is ~80% effective, has no side effects, and is perfectly safe. the only bad thing about it, is the putting it in and taking it out. the plastic T is kinda sharp and may puncture the uterus if the docter dont know what he is doing.

very odd indead, not even i fully understand the how of it.
 
Pyro Paul said:
a IUD doesnt block the passage, it uses a weird simplistic science fact to make you rather infertal.
Though an IUD works on other levels (particularly Mirena, which contains hormones), it can block the passage, because it can thicken the cervical mucus, which can prevent the sperm from reaching the egg.

what is the Best controception in the world you ask? why, a penny of course! old fact used in the desert countrys, put a penny in the cammels uterus before you go on a long trek so that the girl cammels doesnt get impregnated by the boy cammels half way through and you gotta nurse it or abandon it.

for some odd reason, (not yet fully understood by the sexual community) copper stops sperm. (even human sperm) so, they had the most brillent idea, lets put a penny in a womans uterus and make her temporarly infertal! and Lo! invented was the IUD!
I'd like to see your source for this.

an iud is little plastic T with copper wire wrapped all around it.
Not all IUD's contain copper.

you then insert it manualy into the uterus and leave it there.
Actually, I would not try to insert or remove an IUD myself. I would allow a medical professional to do it.

some how it is ~80% effective, has no side effects, and is perfectly safe. the only bad thing about it, is the putting it in and taking it out.
I don't know where you're getting your information, but the info that I found shows that the IUD is one of the most effective long-term/reversible BC methods out there, with a failure rate of about 1%. Complications associated with insertion and removal, while possible, are very rare. There can be some side effects associated with the use of the IUD, some of which are more serious than others.

very odd indead, not even i fully understand the how of it.
I should say not. What's unfortunate is that someone might actually believe the misinformation that you're spewing.
 
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from a male point of view

my wife tried it for a little while. we had to take it out during sex. i felt it during sex. rather uncomfortable.
 
Pyro Paul said:
i get all my stuff of NSHLS reports and private clinical studies. i had sex ed and we went over them extensively for alot of crap, its a shame... i acctualy learned something there... (curses school) and all reports have conflicting reasons behind them because each clinic studies them against a different back ground. though the manufacturer says it is 99.9% effective, the clinical trial they used was a 3 month health services solicited trial.

unfortunatly, i can not find most of the NSHLS(not that i can even spell the aberviation of it correctly) on the web. if i could, id basicly just post a huge link to it saying read this huge report for all your answers!

Now, i know i sound like im spouting a bunch of malarky, and if you choose to dismiss it as mear false hood, go ahead. the only research that counts is yours any ways.
What IS NSHLS exactly?

Well, actually, I probably found it. Would you be referring to "The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS), a 1992 national probability sample of 1410 men and 1749 women between the ages of 18 and 59 years living in U.S. households, comprises our best estimate of sexual problems in the U.S." by chance? Reference Here

How do you feel about Planned Parenthood as a source of information? Would you say the largest, oldest family planning organization in the world has screwy statistics and information?

How about the National Women’s Health Information Center? (which refers to Planned Parenthood as a good resource, BTW)

The American College of OBGYNs?

Okay, Paul, so my point is that it's fine to put up statistics if you have valid references to back them up. I'm not asserting my research is more important than yours, I'm simply saying statistics and facts are more commonly accepted when you can go back to the original source and decide for yourself. For example, did you know women who have abortions are often suicidal, hostile, and have impaired memories? Well, they are according to this article on OurChurch.com. Now, I just gave you my source, so you can go look at that site and see that it's a right-wing, anti-choice organization. Furthermore, you can see that they're getting their information from “You’re Considering an Abortion: What Can Happen To You?” and a couple of other crazy anti-abortion sites. That's important because it might affect your perception of the "fact" I just posted.

With all due respect, you've been posting all sorts of information that even conflicts with plain-old common sense, not to mention a bunch of well-established, highly trusted sources of information. If you want to find oddball info, go right ahead, but don't post it without the link so people can check it out, because someone might be stupid or naive enough to believe it. We all know some of the visitors who seek info here are well...terribly uneducated on these things, so it's good to give them accurate info. We don't want them running out thinking, 'Hey, withdrawal is just as effective as the NuvaRing...we totally shouldn't bother with birth control!' Right?

If you can't find the references to back up your statistics, post them as personal opinions so people can tell the difference. Examples:
"It's my personal opinion that the NuvaRing is 63.4% effective"
"I don't have anything but my memory of sex ed and my opinion to back this up, but the Nuvaring releases High amounts of specific hormones directly into the uterus and overies."

I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful here, but I believe this is a serious matter. If you pop on over to the GB, you'll see people asking for references all of the time, and they're usually just talking about politics or something. When they reference books, they often post the page numbers so people can read the information in context if they so desire! We're giving advice that could really impact lives (even though we all recognize and spout over and over that we're not professionals, etc.), so I think we owe it to ourselves and anyone who's reading our posts to NOT rely on our memories, look up, and post accurate information with references. :)
 
i really wouldnt recommend it for any usage longer than 2-3 months. if you dont wanna get pregnate for a few years get on depo. that is a 100% birth control method that has a projected usage stage of 2 years. maximum of about 4
Assuming it agrees with you. Unfortunately I found out the hard way that it didn't. Besides the gain of 20 pounds, my hair fell out and after just 1 shot I didn't get a period for 11 months.. boy did my body let me know that wasn't normal and it didn't appreciate it 1 bit.
 
Eilan said:
Though an IUD works on other levels (particularly Mirena, which contains hormones), it can block the passage, because it can thicken the cervical mucus, which can prevent the sperm from reaching the egg.

I'd like to see your source for this.

Not all IUD's contain copper.

Actually, I would not try to insert or remove an IUD myself. I would allow a medical professional to do it.

I don't know where you're getting your information, but the info that I found shows that the IUD is one of the most effective long-term/reversible BC methods out there, with a failure rate of about 1%. Complications associated with insertion and removal, while possible, are very rare. There can be some side effects associated with the use of the IUD, some of which are more serious than others.

I should say not. What's unfortunate is that someone might actually believe the misinformation that you're spewing.

Copper Myth.
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/B/BirthControl.html

look up IUD. bout half way down the page. it is a true fact, camel drivers put 'stones' into the uteruses of their camels on long treks to prevent pregnancy. in most cases these stones contained copper, or in modern times, they use copper pennies.

The most effective IUD's contain copper (only needing to be changed out once every 10 years.) Newer ones have been made containing a specific hormone which is considered safe because of its low side effects and isnt transpired through breast feeding. (how ever this one needs t be changed ever 5 years)

no, IUD's are not made to Plug up the Oz. (the little hole into the uterus) the small string that extends from the bottem of the plastic T and out of the oz is there for self examinations after your period, if the string isnt there, then go to the docter.

IUD's change the lining of the uterus making it unable to bare the fertlized egg, as well as change the consistancy of the mucus in the oz to be more thick and less sinuey. these 2 changes make it harder for the sperm to get through, and even if they do, it makes it impossible for the fertel egg to become sewn into the uterus.

information here.
http://familydoctor.org/319.xml
 
acctualy you are probably right erika. though the multipule studies i read through just because you 2 put up an aurgument about it. i can not find the acctual number 64%.

this probably was a mistake of my own, i most likely misplaced that number with a presentage on the chances of a specific likelyness of a side effect, or the specific amounts of estrogen and progesterone released that the nuvaring has.

acctualy i found the report i likely got that information from, i probably mixxed up a few of the % through the entier thing. i think, that 64.3% is the mortality rate for the usage of controception and smoking... id have to read through it again to be sure...

http://www.nuvaring.com/Authfiles/Images/309_76063.pdf

also, this is where i obtained some of information about all the 'dissilusioned information that i spew'...

http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/2002/08_02/rast.htm

there are plenty more, but unfortunatly, i am very lazy. hence why i dont take the time in the first place... but dont get me wrong, ill be more than willing to admit i am wrong if you do provide that you are right.
 
Eilan said:
I don't know where you're getting your information, but the info that I found shows that the IUD is one of the most effective long-term/reversible BC methods out there, with a failure rate of about 1%. Complications associated with insertion and removal, while possible, are very rare. There can be some side effects associated with the use of the IUD, some of which are more serious than others.

acctualy, this information is about emergancy IUD's. if you insert an IUD with in 5-7 days of after unprotected sex then there is an 80% (if using one of the 2 hormonal IUD's) chance that it will be successful in not becoming pregnate, but this will also increase the chance of PID by about 20%. for Copper ones though, the chances are 99%.

i know the information is not presented here on this specific one. but here is some information about it any ways.
http://www.medicinenet.com/birth_control/page14.htm
(this link says that it does not increase the chances of PID, but that is because of it mentioning the Copper IUD, the hormonal ones will increase the chances of a PID)


is that better?
 
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Pyro Paul said:
no, IUD's are not made to Plug up the Oz. (the little hole into the uterus)
I've never heard the term "Oz" in relation to the uterus before. I Googled, but couldn't find any reference to it. Is it an abbreviation for something, a more technical name for the cervix, or something else?

Pyro Paul said:
acctualy you are probably right erika. though the multipule studies i read through just because you 2 put up an aurgument about it. i can not find the acctual number 64%.

this probably was a mistake of my own, i most likely misplaced that number with a presentage on the chances of a specific likelyness of a side effect, or the specific amounts of estrogen and progesterone released that the nuvaring has.

acctualy i found the report i likely got that information from, i probably mixxed up a few of the % through the entier thing. i think, that 64.3% is the mortality rate for the usage of controception and smoking... id have to read through it again to be sure...

http://www.nuvaring.com/Authfiles/Images/309_76063.pdf

also, this is where i obtained some of information about all the 'dissilusioned information that i spew'...

http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/2002/08_02/rast.htm

there are plenty more, but unfortunatly, i am very lazy. hence why i dont take the time in the first place... but dont get me wrong, ill be more than willing to admit i am wrong if you do provide that you are right.

Thanks for trying to do differently. I'm sure you can see where mixing up the numbers between NuvaRing effectiveness and smoking could really be confusing and problematic for someone who didn't know better.

As for admitting you're wrong, I didn't ask for that...I simply asked you to back up what you're posting. And you already said you are wrong in the post right there anyway. It's neither my duty nor my pleasure to go through your posts and find the correct numbers and facts with references just because you're too lazy to use Google. :rolleyes: If you can't be bothered to go back through your posts, check, and edit your facts, you can always just put a giant disclaimer at the top of each one, edit with a link to a site with accurate info, or simply delete everything you're not 100% positive of, haven't checked, and can't provide references for. Just a few suggestions.
 
SweetErika said:
I've never heard the term "Oz" in relation to the uterus before. I Googled, but couldn't find any reference to it. Is it an abbreviation for something, a more technical name for the cervix, or something else?

I think he may have it confused with os which is latin and has two distinct meanings in medicine.

Os:The upper opening of the digestive tract.
and/or any opening or aperture in the body.

Os:Relating to bone.
Each one is pronounced differently.
 
quoll said:
I think he may have it confused with os which is latin and has two distinct meanings in medicine.

Os:The upper opening of the digestive tract.
and/or any opening or aperture in the body.

Os:Relating to bone.
Each one is pronounced differently.
Ah, thanks quoll! I knew the bone reference, but didn't know about the opening. I learn something new everyday here. :D
 
quoll said:
I think he may have it confused with os which is latin and has two distinct meanings in medicine.

Os:The upper opening of the digestive tract.
and/or any opening or aperture in the body.

Os:Relating to bone.
Each one is pronounced differently.

yeah, Os. (pronounced Oz. hence why i mix it up)

the os is the small hole in the cervix that leads to the uterus. i could post pictures.. but they are very... um... medicly graphic.
 
Pyro Paul said:
the Nuva Ring.
a small ring inserted in to the vaginal cavity that releases hormones directly into the uterus. this can be the easyest form of birthcontrol out there as well as the quickest acting (since effecting the uterus directly)

clinical studies have shown that this is Not AS effective as the Pill (the pill being 99.9% and the ring being 63.4%(still under lots of critical testing for this number)) as well as having more Serious side effects than the pill or patch.

the Nuva ring releases High amounts of specific hormones directly into the uterus and overies. thus giving it a desirable birth control effect, but also making it more risky. Those that are allergic to the said hormones released will become deathly ill and if normal birth control makes you sick, this will 10 fold.

this has to be taken out every couple of months so that your body will induce a period for the high hormonal levels (which stop egg release) may make the body deathly sick if continualy used over a period of 4 months with no period. (your body wants to make the egg's and get your pregnate, if you dont do this continualy, your body will hurt you... littraly)


from what ive read, this is much safer and easyer to do than the pill, but also has higher risks of side effects since your dealing with a whole hellva lot more hormones, and it being released into a very sensitive area prone to infection.

the women that use it like it because they 1, dont have an evedent birth control thing for the world to see, and 2, they dont have to remember every morning to take a little pill.

edit.
oh another really serious warning (im not sure if they tell you this) But if your pregnate or think you are, Do not even Touch the thing. the extreamly high hormonal levels can be tranfused through the skin, and these hormones can cause serious birth defects if applyed during the first and second trimester. (some studies have shown that this can actualy change the sexual orintation of the baby from male to female- often causing birthdefects much like pesudo hermaphodites.)


wow....
1) studies show it's MORE effective that the pill b/c it can't 'get lost' in digestion like the pill and it drastically reduces human error. if used properly, it's 99%. the pill is about 95%. Maybe you're thinking of a diaphram?

2) how can you change the sexual orientation of an unborn baby? And, how would they know? the product has been on the market for...what...2-3 years? is this even a testable hypothesis?

and...

3) you don't leave it in all year long. do your homework before you scare people who don't know any better
 
bare_pussy said:
wow....
1) studies show it's MORE effective that the pill b/c it can't 'get lost' in digestion like the pill and it drastically reduces human error. if used properly, it's 99%. the pill is about 95%. Maybe you're thinking of a diaphram?

2) how can you change the sexual orientation of an unborn baby? And, how would they know? the product has been on the market for...what...2-3 years? is this even a testable hypothesis?

and...

3) you don't leave it in all year long. do your homework before you scare people who don't know any better
Pyro Paul, when he posted here regularly, had a penchant for spewing misinformation because he liked to stir up shit. He even admitted it in another thread.

Fortunately, most people were quick to call bullshit, but, yeah, some of us were worried that people reading his posts might believe him.
 
i was just reading the thing b/c few people responded to my post about Nuvaring...
and man what a fruit loop.
and he needs to learn how to spell
 
pyropauls edit

Pyro Paul-- the sex of the baby is determined by DNA very very early on in pregnancy. Hormones play absolutely no part in that. Genetic mutations or DNA RNA coding errors are responsible for the sexual defects you speak of.

There have been numerous birth control inserts that say birth control use during pregnancy or after conception will do no harm to the fetus.

And another thing--- the Nuva ring is a very low dose of hormones and is often prescribed to women who are either sensitive to the higher dose pills or who don't want the side effects to be as pronounced. ( weight gain etc).

what are you talking about with taking it out every few months. this comes out every 3 weeks. one week out for your period then you put another one in.

Pyro Paul said:
the Nuva Ring.
a small ring inserted in to the vaginal cavity that releases hormones directly into the uterus. this can be the easyest form of birthcontrol out there as well as the quickest acting (since effecting the uterus directly)

clinical studies have shown that this is Not AS effective as the Pill (the pill being 99.9% and the ring being 63.4%(still under lots of critical testing for this number)) as well as having more Serious side effects than the pill or patch.

the Nuva ring releases High amounts of specific hormones directly into the uterus and overies. thus giving it a desirable birth control effect, but also making it more risky. Those that are allergic to the said hormones released will become deathly ill and if normal birth control makes you sick, this will 10 fold.

this has to be taken out every couple of months so that your body will induce a period for the high hormonal levels (which stop egg release) may make the body deathly sick if continualy used over a period of 4 months with no period. (your body wants to make the egg's and get your pregnate, if you dont do this continualy, your body will hurt you... littraly)


from what ive read, this is much safer and easyer to do than the pill, but also has higher risks of side effects since your dealing with a whole hellva lot more hormones, and it being released into a very sensitive area prone to infection.

the women that use it like it because they 1, dont have an evedent birth control thing for the world to see, and 2, they dont have to remember every morning to take a little pill.

edit.
oh another really serious warning (im not sure if they tell you this) But if your pregnate or think you are, Do not even Touch the thing. the extreamly high hormonal levels can be tranfused through the skin, and these hormones can cause serious birth defects if applyed during the first and second trimester. (some studies have shown that this can actualy change the sexual orintation of the baby from male to female- often causing birthdefects much like pesudo hermaphodites.)
 
am no longer a nuva newbie and been with it for some time now and am lovin it. It is the only thing thus far I don't have a reaction to and I just came from the GYNO who said if I am using it more for regulation and not for pregnancy protection it would be fine to go from ring to ring without the break for a period free summer ... :)
 
boston_bbw said:
am no longer a nuva newbie and been with it for some time now and am lovin it. It is the only thing thus far I don't have a reaction to and I just came from the GYNO who said if I am using it more for regulation and not for pregnancy protection it would be fine to go from ring to ring without the break for a period free summer ... :)


really??? so, do you put a new one in every 3 weeks or every 4? if you begin skipping, please let me know how it goes! I would like to do that but dont want to spot or bleed thru. and i would probably only skip every other (i like having a period b/c it proves to me that the BC worked!)

suppedly a lot of people on seasonale bleed thru so often its like having their period....
 
i just got it on the 7th. at 1st it was really weird. i don't think i had it in right cause it kept slipping out. it took me a few days of shoving my fingers up there to get it to stay. i think it just needed to mold to my shape. i did have to wash it off a few times cause it came out, but it was really easy to get back in.

once i got it in there and no slipping, i had to test it out... boy said he felt it the 1st time we had sex with it... but now he doesn't feel it. HAHA maybe he pushed it into a better position than i could.

i was on the patch for a year and had no problems with it. it did leave me red in the area for a few days after i took it off, but that's just cause my skin hates sticky band-aid type things on it.

my gyno said if i were to have stayed on the patch, i'd have had to take a baby asprin every morning...that's to prevent any troubles the patch could cause.







Valcorie said:
I just started the Nuva ring for birth control. It is the small ring you put inside for three weeks and it slowly releases estogen into your body instead of the patch. I guess it is suposed to be more effective than the pill because it basicaly eliminates human error. No more forgetting the pill. Has any one else tried this?

My doctor said it should be undetectable during sex, or it can be taken out for up to 3 hours at a time. Has anyone tested this?

Thanks for the input!

valcorie
:)
 
Not very satisfied

I tried the Nuva ring awhile back for about 2 months. The nurse told me that if it's pushed up inside far enough I shouldn't have a problem with it slipping back out. Unfortunately... I did have that problem, and I don't know how I could've pushed it up any farther! I liked the idea of the Nuva ring...it even had stickers that came with it you could put on the calendar to remind you of when to take it out and put the next one in. I kept feeling the ring slowly sliding out of me (or feeling like it was going to) though, and it really ruined the mood for me when me and my husband wanted to have sex. I could feel the ring, plus I was afraid that since this was happening that it wasn't giving me the contraceptive protection. I kept having to push it back up, and though there were times when I couldn't feel the ring, there were many more when I could. Therefore, I switched birth control.
Hope this helped!

~NightWarrior's Wife
 
A long time girlfriend of mine used it while we were together. Worked very well for her although she did gain weight from it. thats common anyway... during sex it didn't bother me or her much. although there were several times after intercourse that I would pull out of her and it would be rung around my penis. :confused: we usually got a laugh out of that. problem was it would some times fall off of me when i pulled out. she wouldn't know it, and i wouldn't know it, and we would find it in the bed a hour or so later. so she started taking it out before sex. problem with that is we wouldn't always remember to put it back in. on a side note i have see alot of things come out since then about health problems stemming from the nuva ring.
 
lucky

crazybbwgirl said:
My daughter (18) has been using it for 2 months. She loves it! This from a girl who could not take the pill - it made her crazy (just like me when I was younger) Its a relief to have her on something so easy to use and no problems forgetting to take it. I was concerned it would be a problem cuz her bf is very - ah - large. But she says its wonderful.


Your daughter is a lucky girl to have a mother like you!
Maharat
 
I am currently on the depo shot but i did try the nuva ring for a trial period. i really liked the concept of the ring because of its lower dose of hormones right where you need it. Unfortunately I found that it made me rather uncomfortable; not in the physical sense but that somehow i felt less protected after being on depo for so long. I know this was mostly just a personal paranoia but i had read that the ring is less effective. I had no problems with it slipping out or causing side effects and my bf could not feel it during sex.
 
my doctor told me that i could leave the ring out for 3 hours at a time and still be protected. it was fun playing 'ring the penis'.... maybe a little too much fun :nana: i switched to an iud and now my vagina is just hostile with the little sharp strings hanging down. oh well, it matches the rest of me i guess.
 
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