On Vixens, Cuckoldresses & Other Hotwives: the Appeal of the Highly Desirable Wife

At the risk of being flown to a dizzying height, being called a retard, and dropped to my death in front of my family, I can tell you that of the dozens of cuckold/hotwife couples my wife and I have run with over the past 30 years (in our community and at hedo events), most would likely say yes to all the OPs poll questions. Not all get into the humiliation factor like I do, but by this time in our lives we should all know there are as many flavors of sexual preference as there are people on this planet. Not everyone is wired the same, whether physically, emotionally, or sexually. But, of course, folks that frequent an erotica site like this - and certainly those that publish here - recognize this truism and have developed a higher degree of tolerance for alternative lifestyles than others.

As we all know too, many authors on this forum and other sites, including those who get paid for their crafts, no nothing of the lifestyle or subject matter of which they write. That is painfully obvious to those of us that live it, however, it is their right to interpret what they think is real to further their idea of a fantasy.

As always, stay tolerant friends.
I agree. After many years of seeing and participating in many variations of the above, the flavors are all over the map. As the other guy in cuckold relationships, I didn't see much humiliation, except for the gentle teasing and humiliation stuff that a wife in that situation can't resist. I guess the reason for that is that I tended to avoid those kind of kind of relationships because I am not a fan of humiliation
 
1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y

2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y

3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Ambivalent - that's up to her

4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? N

5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? N
 
I agree. After many years of seeing and participating in many variations of the above, the flavors are all over the map. As the other guy in cuckold relationships, I didn't see much humiliation, except for the gentle teasing and humiliation stuff that a wife in that situation can't resist. I guess the reason for that is that I tended to avoid those kind of kind of relationships because I am not a fan of humiliation
Agreed, humiliation is not a given. For example, of the 8 couples that make up our circle of special friends these days, 2 of the couples are traditional swingers, 3 are what many would call stag/vixen (although all of us try to avoid labels) and 3 live a wittol/cuckoldress lifestyle (me and my wife included). Of the latter, two of us ‘wittols' dig the humiliation aspect. We know we are wired different, broken even, but we’ve managed to live a great life, married for over 30 years and raised kids. We make no apologies for it.

Most keep their kink behind closed doors, as do we. There exists a stigma attached to the fetish that most of mainstream society is not yet ready to accept, nor really any form of polyamorous relationships. That is evident everywhere from board rooms to scouting to PTAs. It is even evidenced a bit in this thread. Hell, LGBTQ+ has just now gained a (almost) acceptable status in the mainstream and how long did that take?

In our opinion, erotica should embrace all flavors of sexual preferences as long as it does not include under age or unwilling participants (e.g. anything illegal). We are not into scat and piss, but I do not begrudge those that are. I simply do not read those stories. As such, you will not find us writing about those subjects because, not having experienced it, we’d just be making shit up.

Sorry to intrude on this thread. We do not usually comment on these forums, but felt we had something to contribute this time.

Thanks for reading.
 
Agreed, humiliation is not a given. For example, of the 8 couples that make up our circle of special friends these days, 2 of the couples are traditional swingers, 3 are what many would call stag/vixen (although all of us try to avoid labels) and 3 live a wittol/cuckoldress lifestyle (me and my wife included). Of the latter, two of us ‘wittols' dig the humiliation aspect. We know we are wired different, broken even, but we’ve managed to live a great life, married for over 30 years and raised kids. We make no apologies for it.

Most keep their kink behind closed doors, as do we. There exists a stigma attached to the fetish that most of mainstream society is not yet ready to accept, nor really any form of polyamorous relationships. That is evident everywhere from board rooms to scouting to PTAs. It is even evidenced a bit in this thread. Hell, LGBTQ+ has just now gained a (almost) acceptable status in the mainstream and how long did that take?

In our opinion, erotica should embrace all flavors of sexual preferences as long as it does not include under age or unwilling participants (e.g. anything illegal). We are not into scat and piss, but I do not begrudge those that are. I simply do not read those stories. As such, you will not find us writing about those subjects because, not having experienced it, we’d just be making shit up.

Sorry to intrude on this thread. We do not usually comment on these forums, but felt we had something to contribute this time.

Thanks for reading.
I agree. I hate labels and pigeonholing. We all have our kinks, and society and some individuals love to kink shame
 
Agreed, humiliation is not a given. For example, of the 8 couples that make up our circle of special friends these days, 2 of the couples are traditional swingers, 3 are what many would call stag/vixen (although all of us try to avoid labels) and 3 live a wittol/cuckoldress lifestyle (me and my wife included). Of the latter, two of us ‘wittols' dig the humiliation aspect. We know we are wired different, broken even, but we’ve managed to live a great life, married for over 30 years and raised kids. We make no apologies for it.

Most keep their kink behind closed doors, as do we. There exists a stigma attached to the fetish that most of mainstream society is not yet ready to accept, nor really any form of polyamorous relationships. That is evident everywhere from board rooms to scouting to PTAs. It is even evidenced a bit in this thread. Hell, LGBTQ+ has just now gained a (almost) acceptable status in the mainstream and how long did that take?

In our opinion, erotica should embrace all flavors of sexual preferences as long as it does not include under age or unwilling participants (e.g. anything illegal). We are not into scat and piss, but I do not begrudge those that are. I simply do not read those stories. As such, you will not find us writing about those subjects because, not having experienced it, we’d just be making shit up.

Sorry to intrude on this thread. We do not usually comment on these forums, but felt we had something to contribute this time.

Thanks for reading.
Hey, I opened the thread for an open discussion. To be honest, I've been surprised by the heavily leaning negative reaction among AH authors in general. Even if not their core thing, did not expect so much taboo around it. We have had discussions about non-consent, incest, and other things that have got heated, and there are some that have said "not my thing, but I wont kink shame, even implicitly". Yet I feel there has been more implicit kink shame on this that I expected. Personally, not an official member of the "lifestyle" like you guys. But my femdom interests touch on and intersect with cuckoldry frequently. I think I am learning Lit is not, really, kink tolerant. Or at least, not all kinks are created equal.
 
Hey, I opened the thread for an open discussion. To be honest, I've been surprised by the heavily leaning negative reaction among AH authors in general. Even if not their core thing, did not expect so much taboo around it. We have had discussions about non-consent, incest, and other things that have got heated, and there are some that have said "not my thing, but I wont kink shame, even implicitly". Yet I feel there has been more implicit kink shame on this that I expected. Personally, not an official member of the "lifestyle" like you guys. But my femdom interests touch on and intersect with cuckoldry frequently. I think I am learning Lit is not, really, kink tolerant. Or at least, not all kinks are created equal.
I agree with your assessment. I mistakenly thought that AH would be a far more intelligent and tolerant subset on Lit. It actually may be, but not by much
 
Hey, I opened the thread for an open discussion. To be honest, I've been surprised by the heavily leaning negative reaction among AH authors in general. Even if not their core thing, did not expect so much taboo around it. We have had discussions about non-consent, incest, and other things that have got heated, and there are some that have said "not my thing, but I wont kink shame, even implicitly". Yet I feel there has been more implicit kink shame on this that I expected. Personally, not an official member of the "lifestyle" like you guys. But my femdom interests touch on and intersect with cuckoldry frequently. I think I am learning Lit is not, really, kink tolerant. Or at least, not all kinks are created equal.

Lit is surprisingly un-kink tolerant, not just among readers (which isn't that surprising) but among authors (which to me remains surprising).

I don't personally find the humiliation aspect of wife-sharing kinky, but if others do it's fine with me.
 
Hey, I opened the thread for an open discussion. To be honest, I've been surprised by the heavily leaning negative reaction among AH authors in general. Even if not their core thing, did not expect so much taboo around it. We have had discussions about non-consent, incest, and other things that have got heated, and there are some that have said "not my thing, but I wont kink shame, even implicitly". Yet I feel there has been more implicit kink shame on this that I expected. Personally, not an official member of the "lifestyle" like you guys. But my femdom interests touch on and intersect with cuckoldry frequently. I think I am learning Lit is not, really, kink tolerant. Or at least, not all kinks are created equal.
I write about a swinger couple with the MC as a straight male. I got into a forum discussion over a year ago when one member in the AH said something like "You know you're a latent gay who wants to suck a cock. Every guy I know eventually wanted to."

I realized then the narrow, bigoted minds many here show, even those you'd think would be more tolerant. Every guy he knows eventually wants to suck a cock, BECAUSE he only associates with gay and Bi friends and refuses to recognize any others.

If someone looks around and finds "intolerance" and "subtle discrimination" and "latent tendencies" and "unspoken whatever" everywhere around them ... IMO it's because they carry it with them. When they carry a judgmental attitude inside, its far easier to find.
 
Lit is surprisingly un-kink tolerant, not just among readers (which isn't that surprising) but among authors (which to me remains surprising).

I don't personally find the humiliation aspect of wife-sharing kinky, but if others do it's fine with me.
It's an odd phenomenon. But I try to remind myself that most people don't share my values, even in this space.
 
It's an odd phenomenon. But I try to remind myself that most people don't share my values, even in this space.

Yes, and there's absolutely no necessity that we must all share the same values. In erotica, as in everything, we all have different tastes. But it seems like in coming to a place like this you would expect people to be tolerant of tastes they don't share, and that's surprisingly untrue.
 
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