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Re: Lead the Party or Let the Party Lead

Snork Maiden said:
That's the paradox of DMing isn't it, if you lead the party too much the people feel controlled and resist all your good intentions, if you do nothing then the people just mill about and cause general mischief to amuse themselves. Seen it, DM'ed it, done it.

I don't know perhaps it is different in 3rd Ed.


I would have to say this game falls within reverse AD&D .. where the heros' and monsters' roles are reversed. It does make for an interesting game.. But in ours only the DM and players are reversed..

This is only my opinion. I speak from 5 years of LARP and RPG- ing.

I tend to like this format because if the game gets slow the players can decide to lead it somewhere... or if they are stuck in a really important decision they can do it without clues to as what they will run into.

(read up on 3rd edition, it has a few changes but otherwise, I feel, it fills in spots and holes left by the 1st and 2nd.)


Thanks everyone *smile* for the nice comments..
 
Re: Re: Lead the Party or Let the Party Lead

Jeselynn said:

(read up on 3rd edition, it has a few changes but otherwise, I feel, it fills in spots and holes left by the 1st and 2nd.)

I have to disagree, we looked at 2nd Edition and it seemed nothing more than plain old D&D with some new twists, Certainly no where near as complete as The original AD&D system and the gimmicks that were introduced like the plethora of wizard and priest spells card packs and additional dross did nothing to advance the game, infact in many respects it simplified the AD&D campaign setting.

If that was the intention it would have been better to extend the D&D game and have left the AD&D game alone AD&D 2nd Editions was nowhere near as advanced as the 1st Edition I don't imagine 3rd edition does much to improve on that.

2nd Edition was launched because many people found 1st Edition too complicated, TSR was looking for a way to increase its revenues and compete with other Gaming systems that evolved during the mid 80's. Given that the first edition was developped over 25+ years it seems a pitiful waste to try and reinvent the wheel and come up with something square.

All that said ,as I mentioned right at the beginning I have no idea of what 3rd edition is all about. I guess having a strong 1st edition bias makes it difficult for me to understand this games dynamics, I certainly don't understand the priest class and the benefits of being a Ranger seem to have diminished completely.

It is fortunate that there is now a Paladin in the party though I expect that class has changed too and that you have also joined the party, which keeps the numbers up.

I have to admit my reasons for joining this thread weren't for graphical sex scenes, there are after all plenty of other threads to cater for that. I thought there might be some casual sex, brief encounters even erotic encounters, but sex in a bath is the same even if the bath is in a motel, house, dungeon or what ever it just doesn't do it for me not in the context of this thread.

I going to write my character out, which I do and don't feel too bad about, because I have disagree again with your observation about the DM and players being reversed and I can't get into that mode of roleplaying I'm afraid. In my opinion that's just laziness and lack of planning, DM's must have the commitment to put the work into the game, not the players, the players have the obligation to put the imagination into the situations.

If there is no Framework there is no Game. I can't see a framework and I don't think one will appear, but have fun anyway I'm am sure you 3rd Ed guys will hammer it out.

Snork.
 
Well, It is too bad you are leaving Snork Maiden, however I have to say that if the object of the thread was to have a casuall sex thread and more roleplaying that should have been said at the beginning... there are a lot of threads I have seen and participate in which have casuall sex, and great roleplaying from everyone... but that is because everyone agreed to have it that way...

Also, at the beginning of the thread there were some complains in the sense that the thread was missing the S on SRP... which gets me to my first point... It should have been stated in what direction was the thread going to move...
 
Just a quick note, Joselyn, hello. Great to have you aboard.

And farewell Snork Maiden.

*pulling out soap box and climbing on top*

Yes, I agree with WQ there. It should be stated. Now, why don't we state it now. Are we going to have this a casual sex roleplay and mroe roleplay or is this going to be the sex based thread wanted earlier? If it is the casual I can get Ishkama out of the situation in the bath. If not, then WQ and I will continue.

Secondly, I do agree that the DM should help the crew a little but also, he did give Ish the note to get to Lord D'Arcie, but she got preoccupied. *wink* But, if it goes the casual sex way, then we can get to his place pretty quick.

*stepping off soapbox and putting it up*

Ok, that was my two cents worth. Just let me know which way this thread is going. Ab dropped out because it wasn't going quick enough and I would hate to loose this thread, I am actually having fun and he is enjoying his wife, er uh, Ishkama get touched. LOL
 
I agree with you White Queen, and please don't think I am personally criticising either you or Araynes, I think you guys are having a great time and it's been fun playing along with you both.

My character 'Fern', didn't dislike Ishkama by the way, I was role playing in context to the attitude that Ish gave from the beginning. It is unfortunate that we never really got to estabilish our characters because we never really met in any of the thread did we :(

Most of the misunderstanding I think is my fault, I was looking for a thread that was more erotic, less graphic, and had an element of adventure and fun in it, afterall, sex scene after sex scene after sex scene get a bit played out don't you think. Also I really missed playing AD&D, irt was really one of my favorite pastimes, shows what a geeky girl I was :) I thought this would be a great place to like have fun.

All the best to you all and have fun :)
 
I've given my point of view before; I think roleplay is more important than the casual sex aspects of the thread; after all, there are LOTS of threads on the board that do just that.

Not to say there shouldn't be sex, of course, but with more plot and character development, I guess
 
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Lethe said:
I've given my point of view before; I think roleplay is more important than the casual sex aspects of the thread; after all, there are LOTS of threads on the board that do just that.

Not to say there shouldn't be sex, of course, but with more plot and character development, I guess

Thank you, Lethe, Thank you. My thoughts exactly. I said I was bombing in the traditional role as DM, since I'm not on here when the rest of you are, and so CANNOT react as quickly as necessary to many things. I do have a map of Fairhaven, and a rough timeline of events, but as I believe I said, two people were having sex in a tub, and everyone else was playing "in one door and out the other" talking to Lethe. I haven't checked in on the main thread yet, so I don't know what state it's in. I also didn't want to bore the piss out of everybody with a fifteen paragraph geography, history and sociology lesson on my bloody city. I am falling down on the job, though. I can pass the plot along to someone else if they think they want to DM it. I feel really bad about this thing hittin the crapper that hard.
 
Spectre T, you are right, and I think that personally the characters are only gonna get developed if we have some free time to play and not go off on a mission immediately. But since I am on the computer 99% of the time during the day all weekdays and on sat I would be happy to help you co-dm if you want.

If you guys want the sex scene between Arlen and Ish to stop just say so and I can yank her out. I have a plan already. Just let me know.
 
Apology

I don't think anyone else in the thread has a problem with it except myself so you all should just carry on the way things are.

In hind-sight I should have realised that the thread would be a slow paced affair because not everybody would be around and not much like D&D at all, that was naiviety on my part.

I apologise if I have upset anyone, I guess I am the sort of person that commits to much to something, I think that a ethic I have developed from work.

I actually had devoted all of my LIT time to this thread over the last week and tried to build my character and respond as quickly as I could given the 5 - 8 hour time difference. I did have some pretty late evenings.

You guys should just ignore the fact the Fern was in the party and continue to play the game out how you were doing if thats what suits you all best.
 
ARaynes said:
Spectre T, you are right, and I think that personally the characters are only gonna get developed if we have some free time to play and not go off on a mission immediately. But since I am on the computer 99% of the time during the day all weekdays and on sat I would be happy to help you co-dm if you want.

If you guys want the sex scene between Arlen and Ish to stop just say so and I can yank her out. I have a plan already. Just let me know.

You're about to have a PM (DM?) packet dumped on you. It's a decent story idea, but I'm not here enough at the right times to make it work. I'll give nudges here and there and try to keep things on track, but mostly, I'll fall back to voicing as my NPC. I promise not to use any insider knowledge to abuse the story.

Sorryif this wasn't particularly articulate, but I just watched a Marx Brothers Film, so my brain is still chasing itself in circles. True comedy is timeless.
 
SpectreT said:


You're about to have a PM (DM?) packet dumped on you. It's a decent story idea, but I'm not here enough at the right times to make it work. I'll give nudges here and there and try to keep things on track, but mostly, I'll fall back to voicing as my NPC. I promise not to use any insider knowledge to abuse the story.

Sorryif this wasn't particularly articulate, but I just watched a Marx Brothers Film, so my brain is still chasing itself in circles. True comedy is timeless.

Go for it sweetie. My box is cleaned out frequently so feel free to drop me a pm anytime.
 
So AR is also taking on the DM tole... thats good, I know you will do a great job AR... ;)
 
Thanks sweetie. I am not going to be doing it alone though. Spectre will be helping me.
 
Yes, I'll be lending a watchful eye and ear, an NPC, and some plot ideas if we make it through this story.
 
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