Poetry Olympics 2nd Event Individual round: Heavy Lifting
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Whispersecret
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There is a poem about someone whipping their partner. The whipper doesn't enjoy it and there's certainly a conflict between the couple, but I don't see that as breaking up or a parting of ways.
I haven't read all the poems yet, but daughter's didn't seem to quite make it into the breaking up area either. Yes, clearly and deftly she outlined the steps one couple were making toward a break up, but then at the end showed the possibililty of a renewal. (Love you, daughter, but I gotta shoot straight.)
I thought that the point of this event was to challenge writers to tackle the subject and not use the taboo words. If one doesn't actually tackle the subject, there is no challenge to avoid those words.
Maybe I misunderstood.
I haven't read all the poems yet, but daughter's didn't seem to quite make it into the breaking up area either. Yes, clearly and deftly she outlined the steps one couple were making toward a break up, but then at the end showed the possibililty of a renewal. (Love you, daughter, but I gotta shoot straight.)
I thought that the point of this event was to challenge writers to tackle the subject and not use the taboo words. If one doesn't actually tackle the subject, there is no challenge to avoid those words.
Maybe I misunderstood.
daughter
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WS
I have no problem with your argument. I already admitted my poem was written about a troubled relationship and thus the taboo words would be an issue. The poem was written specifically for this challenge.
My failure in ending the relationship is because I typically write in this vein. I believe trouble and change don't have to result in dissolution. I wrote about a relationship that still existed, therefore the focus is the possibility of ending.
U.P. did not specify writing how you felt after a break up. He said write about "addressing the break up or parting of a relationship". My character feared a break up.
Peace,
daughter
I have no problem with your argument. I already admitted my poem was written about a troubled relationship and thus the taboo words would be an issue. The poem was written specifically for this challenge.
My failure in ending the relationship is because I typically write in this vein. I believe trouble and change don't have to result in dissolution. I wrote about a relationship that still existed, therefore the focus is the possibility of ending.
U.P. did not specify writing how you felt after a break up. He said write about "addressing the break up or parting of a relationship". My character feared a break up.
Peace,
daughter
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Ah. I see I should have studied his assignment more closely. Okay, you've squeaked in, d. 
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Time to move on?
If I was better acquainted with just whipping out these statements with HTML tags entrenched I would be delighting you with references to two or three poems I feel are noteworthy.
"Northwest I" by Corazon
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=35691
"Fate" by Ded Poet
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=35977
and "My Debt To Gay Men" by Whispersecret
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=36055
Of course this post should be in the New Poems List forum.
See you there.
If I was better acquainted with just whipping out these statements with HTML tags entrenched I would be delighting you with references to two or three poems I feel are noteworthy.
"Northwest I" by Corazon
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=35691
"Fate" by Ded Poet
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=35977
and "My Debt To Gay Men" by Whispersecret
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=36055
Of course this post should be in the New Poems List forum.
See you there.
KatPurrs
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WS, you're right........
It was my poem about the whipping girl.
I had no problem avoiding the taboo words because I did stray from the challenge of the exercise.
I only alluded to it being a relationship that was far from satisfying, failing, for her anyway.
I voluntarily disqualify myself.
Kat~
It was my poem about the whipping girl.
I had no problem avoiding the taboo words because I did stray from the challenge of the exercise.
I only alluded to it being a relationship that was far from satisfying, failing, for her anyway.
I voluntarily disqualify myself.
Kat~
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Dear Kat, I hope that you aren't taking this the "wrong way," because I like your poem very much. I'll have to go back and give you more thorough comments about what I liked. My problem was I wasn't sure if I should be voting on the poem separately, or as in connection with the Olympics. If the latter, then it would seem as if a vote would have to take into account the lack of adherance to the subject matter. I just wanted guidance on what should be motivating my vote.
Now that your poem is withdrawn, I can vote on it without the encumbrance of the rules.
I know from experience how difficult it can be to be a competitor, see someone bending the rules, and wonder if you should say something, because if you say something, then you run the risk of "taking this too seriously," or "whining," etc. Therefore, because I'm not competing, I'm a little freer to point out possible areas of unfairness.
So, UP and everyone, what I would like to know is:
Is this a true competition, or just an exercise in flexing poetic muscles? Either way is fine with me, but if it's just for the fun of it, then I will stop being so nit-picky about the rules. If it's truly a competition, then I'll continue to be on the lookout for other unintentional faux pas.
(And thank you so very much, smithpeter. I greatly appreciate the feedback and the plug. How sweet it is when it comes from an unexpected source.)
Now that your poem is withdrawn, I can vote on it without the encumbrance of the rules.
I know from experience how difficult it can be to be a competitor, see someone bending the rules, and wonder if you should say something, because if you say something, then you run the risk of "taking this too seriously," or "whining," etc. Therefore, because I'm not competing, I'm a little freer to point out possible areas of unfairness.
So, UP and everyone, what I would like to know is:
Is this a true competition, or just an exercise in flexing poetic muscles? Either way is fine with me, but if it's just for the fun of it, then I will stop being so nit-picky about the rules. If it's truly a competition, then I'll continue to be on the lookout for other unintentional faux pas.
(And thank you so very much, smithpeter. I greatly appreciate the feedback and the plug. How sweet it is when it comes from an unexpected source.)
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What I didnt understand was the more than one entry into this event. But that was just me.
When does this one end and when does the next begin?
When does this one end and when does the next begin?
KatPurrs
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Whispersecret.........
I didn't take it the wrong way at all, WS. Honestly, I didn't.
SA Storm made the same point as you and I tried to justify myself but now I understand completely that I did stray from the parameters set by U.P. I don't find you "nit-picky" or "whiney" at all!
I appreciate every smidgen of feedback. I just saw your wonderful post on my poem's thread. Thanks so much. I'll go back there and respond to your comments.
Kat~
Rules, rules, g.d. rules....... LOL!
I didn't take it the wrong way at all, WS. Honestly, I didn't.
SA Storm made the same point as you and I tried to justify myself but now I understand completely that I did stray from the parameters set by U.P. I don't find you "nit-picky" or "whiney" at all!
I appreciate every smidgen of feedback. I just saw your wonderful post on my poem's thread. Thanks so much. I'll go back there and respond to your comments.
Kat~
Rules, rules, g.d. rules....... LOL!
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The is the end
Poets!
The second round is indeed over we are in the process of picking poems for the medal round.
Gold
Silver
Bronze
There are 5 judges who will remain secret. The judges are novice to well read and the panel is balanced. I will vote to break any ties should they occur.
Based on scores assigned by the judges 1 thru 5, the highest 3 poems will move to the medal round and then will be evaluated under a tougher scale 1-10 in three separate categories.
1. Form
2. Style
3. Imagery
Yes there is an actual prize for each medal winner. Only one poem per poet will be eligible I will pick that poem. If you have submitted multiple poems please feel free to pm me with your choice, I will honor it. If I do not hear from you then I will pick.
The next event is a week or so away and it is a "pairs" competition.
You will be collaborating with a partner on a poem that must be sensual/erotic in nature. Details will be posted after the medals are awarded for this event, and I have had a chance to catch up. In the meantime sharpen your skills and write a sonnet!
Great job everyone thank you for the hours or enjoyment.
U.P.
Poets!
The second round is indeed over we are in the process of picking poems for the medal round.
Gold
Silver
Bronze
There are 5 judges who will remain secret. The judges are novice to well read and the panel is balanced. I will vote to break any ties should they occur.
Based on scores assigned by the judges 1 thru 5, the highest 3 poems will move to the medal round and then will be evaluated under a tougher scale 1-10 in three separate categories.
1. Form
2. Style
3. Imagery
Yes there is an actual prize for each medal winner. Only one poem per poet will be eligible I will pick that poem. If you have submitted multiple poems please feel free to pm me with your choice, I will honor it. If I do not hear from you then I will pick.
The next event is a week or so away and it is a "pairs" competition.
You will be collaborating with a partner on a poem that must be sensual/erotic in nature. Details will be posted after the medals are awarded for this event, and I have had a chance to catch up. In the meantime sharpen your skills and write a sonnet!
Great job everyone thank you for the hours or enjoyment.
U.P.
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I'm curious. By my count there are 18 poets who submitted one or more poems to the Heavy Lifting "competition" - yet I've only got 14 votes so far on my poem - and I know, by feedback I've gotten, that some of them at least are not from other poets in the "competition." I kind of thought that we could at least expect vote/comments from each other?
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Dillinger said:
You thought? Me, too, poet. I voted on every single poem. And commented to 90% of the poets if not poems(Apologies to the poets with multiples).
I will candidly say that I believe if no one else supports us, we should be able to count on each other. How do we submit a work and not support one another? That's funky, Dillinger. If you don't see comments from me, let me know. If I were remiss, it was unintentional.
Peace,
daughter
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I voted,but didnt comment as I have been sick. Sorry about that.
I can honestly say that I liked all of them very much.
I can honestly say that I liked all of them very much.
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And I commented on the majority of the entries, but wasn't a participant, Dill. So you've got one more "slacker" to punish!
I too think that the Olympians should have been courteous enough to comment on the work of the fellow competitors. And I'm not talking about, "Good poem. I enjoyed it."
At the very least you should make one specific observation about the poem.
Then again, maybe I made an assumption that wasn't accurate. I assumed that people participating were committed to a dialogue about their poetry and that of others, to improving their skill, to fostering this budding community of poets with a mutual support. Was I wrong? That was MY aim, even if I didn't submit a poem myself.
I too think that the Olympians should have been courteous enough to comment on the work of the fellow competitors. And I'm not talking about, "Good poem. I enjoyed it."
At the very least you should make one specific observation about the poem.
Then again, maybe I made an assumption that wasn't accurate. I assumed that people participating were committed to a dialogue about their poetry and that of others, to improving their skill, to fostering this budding community of poets with a mutual support. Was I wrong? That was MY aim, even if I didn't submit a poem myself.
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I am still travelling on business and have only been able to check in here for a few minutes a couple times this week. I read and voted on every poem that was available before I left. I still owe some feedback, along with the votes already submitted. And I do have to catch up on those that weren't available before I left. (I don't get home till late Sat. night).
The thread that UM started that links to my poem - along with WickedEve's and perky_baby's - http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64119 - only has comments from Vailyn (THANKS! *smile*) on my submission "Heavy Silence" (http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=35712) which I have interpreted to mean either:
That the poem really sucks big time and no one is willing to tell me...
OR
That my comments on the "Do Folks Want Honest Feedback Or Not" thread (http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64344" were misinterpreted to mean that I don't value feedback. I do, very much so. The point I was trying to make on that thread was to ask people not to only focus on the details but to comment on the whole as well.
Comments are one thing. Voting is another. Commenting requires a fair amount of time to do proper justice to a poet's efforts. As daugher said: "I will candidly say that I believe if no one else supports us, we should be able to count on each other. How do we submit a work and not support one another?" That is hoped for. But, I would think at the very least, we can read and vote on each other's work. The fact that I, and others too, have less votes then there are participants in this "Olympics" is pretty lame. If we can't even do that for each other, how can we expect or even ask the average reader to do so?
BTW - I think Vailyn deserves praise for being perhaps the most consciencious of us all in providing feedback to everyone equally.
The thread that UM started that links to my poem - along with WickedEve's and perky_baby's - http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64119 - only has comments from Vailyn (THANKS! *smile*) on my submission "Heavy Silence" (http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=35712) which I have interpreted to mean either:
That the poem really sucks big time and no one is willing to tell me...
OR
That my comments on the "Do Folks Want Honest Feedback Or Not" thread (http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64344" were misinterpreted to mean that I don't value feedback. I do, very much so. The point I was trying to make on that thread was to ask people not to only focus on the details but to comment on the whole as well.
Comments are one thing. Voting is another. Commenting requires a fair amount of time to do proper justice to a poet's efforts. As daugher said: "I will candidly say that I believe if no one else supports us, we should be able to count on each other. How do we submit a work and not support one another?" That is hoped for. But, I would think at the very least, we can read and vote on each other's work. The fact that I, and others too, have less votes then there are participants in this "Olympics" is pretty lame. If we can't even do that for each other, how can we expect or even ask the average reader to do so?
BTW - I think Vailyn deserves praise for being perhaps the most consciencious of us all in providing feedback to everyone equally.
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Re: The is the end
I don't know about you guys, but I wanna know who the judges are!
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I don't know about you guys, but I wanna know who the judges are!
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I feel both ways bout the judges. I want to know who they are, just to know who is grading the work we have all put up. Then again, maybe we shouldn't know who they are, so that we don't bug them to death to find out how they scored us! =)
Right now, I just wanna know who got what! LOL!!!
And even if only three win, could the other's be listed on how they were scored? Like the top three and then where everyone else placed?
Score - Poet - Title
I would like to know! Even if no one else does.
I feel both ways bout the judges. I want to know who they are, just to know who is grading the work we have all put up. Then again, maybe we shouldn't know who they are, so that we don't bug them to death to find out how they scored us! =)
Right now, I just wanna know who got what! LOL!!!
And even if only three win, could the other's be listed on how they were scored? Like the top three and then where everyone else placed?
Score - Poet - Title
I would like to know! Even if no one else does.
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Hey, guys, it's all just part of UP's paranoid control freak personality. He likes to hide behind his mask and keep people guessing. But as long I'm having fun, I'm not going to complain.
I'm working on unmasking the secret identity of UP even as we speak. My agents are everywhere, scouring cyberspace. Personally, I think he's really Osama bin Laden in disguise. (He's everywhere, he's everywhere!) Be vigilent, my fellow Americans, be very vigilent.
Hey, guys, it's all just part of UP's paranoid control freak personality. He likes to hide behind his mask and keep people guessing. But as long I'm having fun, I'm not going to complain.
I'm working on unmasking the secret identity of UP even as we speak. My agents are everywhere, scouring cyberspace. Personally, I think he's really Osama bin Laden in disguise. (He's everywhere, he's everywhere!) Be vigilent, my fellow Americans, be very vigilent.
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