Project Willow

[icanhelp1]

And unconstitutional.

The King doesn’t believe in the constitution.

 

[Rightguide]

The King doesn’t believe in the constitution.

The King and all of his men are not powerful or rich enough to seize the private property of Americans, either physically or legally. The Constitution protects the rights to private property. Here's an essay on the subject.

https://fee.org/articles/private-property-and-government-under-the-constitution/

 

[ll74]

The King doesn’t believe in the constitution.

The government isn't taking over businesses.

 

[Dribble]

The government isn't taking over businesses.

It is the businesses leading the way towards change. But our Fascists friends refuse to look at this reality

 

[ll74]

It is the businesses leading the way towards change. But our Fascists friends refuse to look at this reality

SVB dissolved as a business and the government stepped in to protect consumers. Using money from the banks themselves and not tax money.

Of course, the last time this happened, we did use taxpayer money and we got a profit from it.

 

[adrina]

^^^^^


You keep saying that pubs want to own the libs, liberals a dying breed.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various views depending on their understanding of these principles. This is not you! There is nothing in that definition that states EQUITY!

Blah blah blah. You don't know shit from shinola when it comes to politics. You live in a perpetual state of outrage varying between shouting at clouds and yelling at kids to get off your lawn. You revel in schadenfreude if you believe it will in any way hurt the democrats, liberals or progressives regardless of the effect on the country or its occupants. To the point where it is tearing the country apart. You supported and continue to support anyone who aggressively bullies the people you don't like.

You are a piece of shit human being and an awful citizen.

I can put it no more plainly.

 

[Sean Renaud]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...hostile-fossil-fuel-policies-pain-at-the-pump

https://www.csis.org/analysis/biden-makes-sweeping-changes-oil-and-gas-policy

Maybe you should try your search engine.

So other than the one thing I'm pissed about which is him breaking that one promise you actually can't name any regulation and apparently nobody else can either. You could have just said "No Sean, I'm pulling shit out of my ass and hoping you waste time reading articles that only solidify your stance"

 

[Sean Renaud]

And unconstitutional.

Please cite where the Constitution it says a damn thing related to this.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's because you don't understand that modern civilization cannot exist when 99% of everything manufactured cannot be without fossil fuels. Unlike you and the rest of the snarling uneducated dopes that populate the Democrat party, Biden has been shaken awake by reality.

Ignoring that you 99% is another factoid you pulled completely out of the air the reality is that most fossil fuels go into energy production primarily fuel and the rest we could handle with ease without drilling if we so chose. Biden hasn't been shaken awake, he pussed out at the threat of a lawsuit since the contracts were signed before he showed. He should have gone to court, thats what I fucking elected him to do. But you can never count on a Dem, especially a centrist like Biden to put up a fight. I swear I'm gonna start treating Centrists as Conservatives from now on since there is no functional difference.

 

[Dribble]

SVB dissolved as a business and the government stepped in to protect consumers. Using money from the banks themselves and not tax money.

Of course, the last time this happened, we did use taxpayer money and we got a profit from it.

Dude...the thread is about the Willow Project. The change being discussed is environmental change. But nice try

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't even know where that particular comment came from. Like I know first hand how hard it can be to stay on topic but damn.
Seriously though I am pissed and Biden for this call, it was the wrong call by any real metric. We do need to get off fossil fuels. I see the Right Wing whining that he was trying to go too fast when he hasn't made any radical moves outside of the promise he broke and he should have.

 

[adrina]

Sadly this is the type of bullshit that happens with a laissez-faire populace.

Imagine what the modern politicians - while mostly GOP, not all - would do against trust busting Teddy.

Honestly I am beyond exasperated with all the bitching and displeasure but the so little voting. The single one thing that could be done to curb this bullshit... isn't being done. How the fuck do we expect our representatives to give two shits about what we think when less than 20% of registered - not even eligible - voters can't be fucked to show up in the primaries? I know I am a broken record when it comes to voting, but we literally have a third of the eligible voters that can't be bothered to show up once every four years let alone be informed enough to make an educated decision.

America is suffering from a populace that doesn't want to do the work to maintain it. And it shows.

 

[icanhelp1]

Project Willow will take years to come to market, it has nothing to do with what is happening right now. Biden also has pretty close to zero control over oil production and sales. What you are talking about would require Biden Nationalize the oil fields. I'm not against that mind you but that's what it would take.

In the commodities market perception is reality.

 

[Sean Renaud]

In the commodities market perception is reality.

While true you'd have to be a moron not to understand that a site started in 2023 (if it even gets that kind of fast tracking) won't be affecting the market for years beyond that where we may live in a very, very different environment. Maybe electric catches on in a serious way. Maybe in a last ditch effort to remain relevant ICE engines become much more fuel efficient. Hell something as simple as the Post Office and Amazon going E could have a HUGE impact on the market. Their perception is based entirely on what they believe is the most likely future but they can only see so far and only try to see so far.

 

[Lazaran]

President Biden has given equal support to green energy and fossil fuels.

A dual track approach for a transition to a sustainable energy future that takes climate change into consideration is pragmatic, reasonable., and conscientious.

Thanks President Biden!!!

 

[Sean Renaud]

ITs also a shitty plan. We need to drop this all of the above. He should be balls to the wall green energy all day everyday and he is not. That is a failure on his part.

 

[Lazaran]

ITs also a shitty plan. We need to drop this all of the above. He should be balls to the wall green energy all day everyday and he is not. That is a failure on his part.

It’s a practicable plan that is infinitely more progressive than the “republican” alternative.

And I guarantee that if far left progressives are implacable and throw a temper tantrum political boycott of President Biden in 2024 like they did to Hillary in 2016, then they can expect the same results.

SAD!!!

 

[Sean Renaud]

It’s a practicable plan that is infinitely more progressive than the “republican” alternative.

And I guarantee that if far left progressives are implacable and throw a temper tantrum political boycott of President Biden in 2024 like they did to Hillary in 2016, then they can expect the same results.

SAD!!!

I think the damage there is already done. A halfway plan is no plan, we've been on an all of the above since at least the Obama era. When fossil fuels have a more than a century head start a 50/50 split is really no different from ignoring Green altogether.

 

[Lazaran]

I think the damage there is already done. A halfway plan is no plan, we've been on an all of the above since at least the Obama era. When fossil fuels have a more than a century head start a 50/50 split is really no different from ignoring Green altogether.

So throw our hands up in the air and cede the Presidency to whoever the “republicans” offer??? - Because President Biden isn’t unilaterally implementing the most ambitious plan on climate change???

Nah.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So throw our hands up in the air and cede the Presidency to whoever the “republicans” offer??? - Because President Biden isn’t unilaterally implementing the most ambitious plan on climate change???

Nah.

Call their bluff. Sooner or later it must be done. Under Obama they shut down the government. Twice. One cost us our credit rating. They are once again threatening and I quote "Scorched Earth" if they don't get what they want. One day we have to let the kid pass out instead of giving him whatever he wants.

This is the same reason why Trump HAS to be held accountable. If the Right learns the rules simply only apply to the left we'll never see the end of it.

 

[Dribble]

Call their bluff. Sooner or later it must be done. Under Obama they shut down the government. Twice. One cost us our credit rating. They are once again threatening and I quote "Scorched Earth" if they don't get what they want. One day we have to let the kid pass out instead of giving him whatever he wants.

This is the same reason why Trump HAS to be held accountable. If the Right learns the rules simply only apply to the left we'll never see the end of it.

Exactly right.

I don't vote for a Party that doesn't represent me just to keep another Party out of office. What is the worst that happens with a Republican President? The country moves closer to the inevitable ending. So...if Democrats want to believe that ending isn't manditory...give me a reason to vote for you.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'll back them just to slow the tide and home someone else picks up the torch and runs with it but yeah. Democrats might bluff about a shut down but they always cave and cave very early after getting pretty much nothing in exchange because at days end Dems believe in negotiating.