Proposal for 28th Amendment - Curb Pardon Power

[ll74]

Not to detract from @SkyBubble and their post - https://forum.literotica.com/threads/should-presidential-pardon-power-be-more-restricted.1655522/, my question is more about whether there is enough support for a Constitutional Amendment to curb the executive power.

I favor complete elimination of the Presidential power to pardon and move to Congress instead.

On Advisory Opinions today, David French suggested adding "advise and consent" requirements. I could support that.

How say you?

I have more to add but want the OP to be more encouraging to all perspectives.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Not to detract from @SkyBubble and their post - https://forum.literotica.com/threads/should-presidential-pardon-power-be-more-restricted.1655522/, my question is more about whether there is enough support for a Constitutional Amendment to curb the executive power.

I favor complete elimination of the Presidential power to pardon and move to Congress instead.

On Advisory Opinions today, David French suggested adding "advise and consent" requirements. I could support that.

How say you?

I have more to add but want the OP to be e more encouraging to all perspectives.

Lefties always want to curb the executive power when pubs are in office. They go eerily silent when they get their own guy in office.

 

[ll74]

Lefties always want to curb the executive power when pubs are in office. They go eerily silent when they get their own guy in office.

I wanted to curb that power when Biden was in office. I actually called for his impeachment at the time he pardoned his son.

 

[Hel_Books]

You folks need some version of the Magna Carta Libertatum. Amendments removing the pardon and veto powers from the Presidency, and something to stop gerrymandering. Maybe require that every congressional district have at least one point inside it from which you can see every other point in the district without your line of sight crossing another congressional district?

 

[ll74]

You folks need some version of the Magna Carta Libertatum. Amendments removing the pardon and veto powers from the Presidency, and something to stop gerrymandering. Maybe require that every congressional district have at least one point inside it from which you can see every other point in the district without your line of sight crossing another congressional district?

I don't think an amendment is needed for gerrymandering, though legislation would be good for that.

 

[eric_erosfan]

Not to detract from @SkyBubble and their post - https://forum.literotica.com/threads/should-presidential-pardon-power-be-more-restricted.1655522/, my question is more about whether there is enough support for a Constitutional Amendment to curb the executive power.

I favor complete elimination of the Presidential power to pardon and move to Congress instead.

On Advisory Opinions today, David French suggested adding "advise and consent" requirements. I could support that.

How say you?

I have more to add but want the OP to be more encouraging to all perspectives.

Yes. It was always a dangerous power. Who could possibly be against this?

 

[eric_erosfan]

I wanted to curb that power when Biden was in office. I actually called for his impeachment at the time he pardoned his son.

Let me guess. The Ken troll thinks you only want to restrict this power from his orange fuhrer?

 

[ll74]

Let me guess. The Ken troll thinks you only want to restrict this power from his orange fuhrer?

Possibly. I was the only one in the forum calling for impeachment after that pardon. I called for it again after the blanket pardons.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Let me guess. The Ken troll thinks you only want to restrict this power from his orange fuhrer?

Karen Kraft was gone long before you got here. Whose alt are you? Are you suggesting the Framing Fathers got it wrong?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Possibly. I was the only one in the forum calling for impeachment after that pardon. I called for it again after the blanket pardons.

Link? Links? We know you tend to lie about stuff.

 

[ll74]

Link? Links? We know you tend to lie about stuff.

We all know you can't read.

And still, nothing has changed from Thursday except more media bullshit.

Will he preemptively pardon a bunch of people? I hope not. I'd say Congress should impeach him if he does.

The likely scenario is that he pardons a bunch of off color criminals and throws in some personal pardons that campaign donors paid for, just like every other President has done and we move along.

But Biden has already abused the power once, and he might just want to burn the place down on his way out the door.

If he truly wanted to go out on a blaze of glory, he'd premptively pardon Trump and then watch the fireworks

I was wrong. Biden did the preemptive pardon.


Congress should impeach for abuse of power.

 

[eric_erosfan]

We all know you can't read.

So now Ken will see the light and decide he has been wrong about everything all along and leave the PB forever. The end.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
You folks need some version of the Magna Carta Libertatum. Amendments removing the pardon and veto powers from the Presidency, and something to stop gerrymandering. Maybe require that every congressional district have at least one point inside it from which you can see every other point in the district without your line of sight crossing another congressional district?

I don't think an amendment is needed for gerrymandering, though legislation would be good for that.

Gerrymandering has been such a temptation that any remedy like the one I described above, as a federal law rather than a part of the Constitution, could simply be abolished once a brazen enough government gets control of the legislature. Or a court might decide that such a law is unconstitutional. After all, the elections are under state control, despite all of President Trump's attempts to use the federal government to interfere.

 

[ll74]

Gerrymandering has been such a temptation that any remedy like the one I described above, as a federal law rather than a part of the Constitution, could simply be abolished once a brazen enough government gets control of the legislature. Or a court might decide that such a law is unconstitutional. After all, the elections are under state control, despite all of President Trump's attempts to use the federal government to interfere.

I don't agree

 

[Saint_Ann]

We all know you can't read.

Are you sure he even knew who he was pardoning?

 

[ll74]

Are you sure he even knew who he was pardoning?

Yep. I can read. As I posted, I suggested he pardon Trump.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Yep. I can read.

But could Biden? He apparently couldn't sign his own name.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Gerrymandering has been such a temptation that any remedy like the one I described above, as a federal law rather than a part of the Constitution, could simply be abolished once a brazen enough government gets control of the legislature. Or a court might decide that such a law is unconstitutional. After all, the elections are under state control, despite all of President Trump's attempts to use the federal government to interfere.

I don't agree

Don't agree with what? That your Supreme Court wouldn't invalidate a federal law requiring that every congressional district have at least one point inside it from which you can see every other point in the district without your line of sight crossing another congressional district? That a government might be brazen enough to repeal such a federal law once they got into power?

 

[ll74]

But could Biden? He apparently couldn't sign his own name.

Irrelevant to my statement.

 

[ll74]

Don't agree with what? That your Supreme Court wouldn't invalidate a federal law requiring that every congressional district have at least one point inside it from which you can see every other point in the district without your line of sight crossing another congressional district? That a government might be brazen enough to repeal such a federal law once they got into power?

That an amendment is needed.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Irrelevant to my statement.

Thanks for doing some actual legwork to back up your sometimes questionable posts.

 

[Saint_Ann]

There's not enough support to pass any constitutional amendments about anything.

 

[ll74]

Thanks for doing some actual legwork to back up your sometimes questionable posts.

I always do.
I don't do it to assist others who refuse to back up their claims.

 

[ll74]

There's not enough support to pass any constitutional amendments about anything.

Based on what? Do you have polling data?

 

[Saint_Ann]

I always do.
I don't do it to assist others who refuse to back up their claims.

Neat!