Puerto Rico.

[Ann_Tagonist]

I can't even see him anymore down the hole he's dug for himself.

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. Not Hilary.

Yeah, I no.

 

[jaF0]

How old are you?

Por Que?

 

[Que]

I got nothing to do with showtunes.

 

[Luk]

Statehood would add two US senators and four or five members of the House, all Democrats.

Fixed for the concise truth, fuck it that they are Americans.

Nobody abandoned Puerto Rico. Their economy was in financial ruin before the hurricane as they screamed through one debt level after another in pursuit of one destructive progressive policy after another.

What are the details of each progressive policy that caused their crushing debt?

 

[Wrong Element]

Should Puerto Rico be admitted as the 51st State?

I think it would be a mistake. When Jamestown was founded, Puerto Rico had already been a Spanish colony for 100 years. It has developed as culturally distinct from the rest of the United States, which means two things: a lot of current Americans would be very opposed to it becoming a state, and at the very least a large minority of Puerto Ricans would have the same reaction. Why admit a state that would bring with it a guaranteed secessionist movement?

The status quo is not viable forever either, though, as Trump's not-so-benign neglect has shown. I'm not sure there's a good answer other than a (very) long-term movement towards independence.

 

[sharingfantasies]

I would like to see all five of the inhabited territories made states or given their independence.
American Samoa.
Guam.
Northern Mariana Islands.
Puerto Rico.
U.S. Virgin Islands

I doubt that it will happen in my lifetime though.

 

[Oblimo]

They have nothing to offer

PR is the manufacturing/shipping hub for Pharma and Medical Device (and other industries) servicing all of Middle and South America.

You clueless wank.

 

[doowdniw]

How old are you?

Does it matter? When you're a Jet, you're a Jet for life!

 

[phrodeau]

Does it matter? When you're a Jet, you're a Jet for life!

Womb to tomb, sperm to worm.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Should Puerto Rico be admitted as the 51st State?

No. They show no proclivity towards wanting the responsibility of statehood when they can collect benefits and still act as if they were independent and not dependent.

After the last hurricane, look how the Democrats (here) tried to hang the disaster on Republicans in Katrina-like fashion.

Cut them loose.
Let them stand.

 

[cowslinger64]

No. They show no proclivity towards wanting the responsibility of statehood when they can collect benefits and still act as if they were independent and not dependent.

After the last hurricane, look how the Democrats (here) tried to hang the disaster on Republicans in Katrina-like fashion.

Cut them loose.
Let them stand.

Thousands of people suffered needlessly and died because of trump and the selfish idiots that serve under him.. it is something to "hang" on them.


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/23/republican-senators-puerto-rico-disaster-aid-244076


As for "responsible" states... would you say these are? How man are gop led?

Mississippi, for instance, relied on federal assistance for 42.9 percent of its revenue in FY 2013, the largest share in the country. Also on the high end are Louisiana (41.9 percent), Tennessee (39.5 percent), South Dakota (39.0 percent), and Missouri (38.2 percent). States with heavy reliance on federal grants-in-aid tend to have a combination of modest tax collections (reducing the denominator) and sizable low income populations (correlating with greater per capita reliance on Medicaid, housing assistance, and other low income and poverty relief programming, and with a greater share of federal education support).

https://taxfoundation.org/which-states-rely-most-federal-aid-0/

 

[trysail]

Just curious—

How many of you have actually been to Puerto Rico?

How many nautical miles is the island from the U.S. mainland?

Where do you pre-position aid and supplies?

How do aid and supplies get to Puerto Rico?

What was the condition of island's electrical grid and its operator prior to the hurricane?


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[SpeareChucker]

I've only been on missions to Haiti.

Our poorest counties have it better.

 

[Rightguide]

I would like to see all five of the inhabited territories made states or given their independence.
American Samoa.
Guam.
Northern Mariana Islands.
Puerto Rico.
U.S. Virgin Islands

I doubt that it will happen in my lifetime though.

They have to want it first.

 

[Rightguide]

PR is the manufacturing/shipping hub for Pharma and Medical Device (and other industries) servicing all of Middle and South America.

You clueless wank.

They have nothing to offer except as I've noted below. Statehood isn't going to happen for the reasons I've posted. You can take that to the bank but I know you won't because you think with your glands instead of your brain.

 

[Rightguide]

No. They show no proclivity towards wanting the responsibility of statehood when they can collect benefits and still act as if they were independent and not dependent.

After the last hurricane, look how the Democrats (here) tried to hang the disaster on Republicans in Katrina-like fashion.

Cut them loose.
Let them stand.

Absolutely!. They reached their present state of pre-hurricane chaos independently. They've even independently fucked up the relief efforts through corruption and criminality.

 

[Wrong Element]

No. They show no proclivity towards wanting the responsibility of statehood when they can collect benefits and still act as if they were independent and not dependent.

After the last hurricane, look how the Democrats (here) tried to hang the disaster on Republicans in Katrina-like fashion.

Cut them loose.
Let them stand.

You understand Puerto Rico wasn't exactly foisted on us. We kinda went and took it.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

You understand Puerto Rico wasn't exactly foisted on us. We kinda went and took it.

you expect frisco to actually have knowledge on a topic in which he erroneously pontificates?

 

[jaF0]

I think it'd be kind of cool for the whole string of islands to be 51. Kind of like Hawaii. We already have two and have a presence on others. There's the Cuba thing though.

 

[Oblimo]

Does it matter? When you're a Jet, you're a Jet for life!

Womb to tomb, sperm to worm.

Not so.

You are only a Jet from your first cigarette. Your mother smoking while pregnant doesn’t count.

 

[pointless]

when you're a jet you're a jet all the way from your first cigarette to your last dying day, you troglodytes.

 

[Oblimo]

You can take that to the bank but I know you won't because you think with your glands instead of your brain.

Oh, they won’t get statehood for a long time, if ever.

It’s better to be swayed by your glands than thinking with your ass, as you seem to do. But my comment was swayed by conversations with logisticians about what the hell our Fortune 100 company was going to do in the aftermath of Maria.

 

[Oblimo]

Not so.

You are only a Jet from your first cigarette. Your mother smoking while pregnant doesn’t count.

when you're a jet you're a jet all the way from your first cigarette to your last dying day, you troglodytes.

First Cigarette Hive Mind!

 

[Rightguide]

Oh, they won’t get statehood for a long time, if ever.

It’s better to be swayed by your glands than thinking with your ass, as you seem to do. But my comment was swayed by conversations with logisticians about what the hell our Fortune 100 company was going to do in the aftermath of Maria.

Nothing I said is incorrect.

 

[runsilent]

They're already US citizens who pay taxes and serve in the military.

They pay some taxes but not income taxes.