Question for Catholics

[KittyOfSteele]

When I was a kid, I heard that priests would go to Confession too. I wondered what they could possibly confess. Now it seems obvious. In one story I wrote how they must have become bored hearing Confessions all Saturday afternoon, and that they would appreciate a good spicy story to make the day go by faster. They might have even prompted the parishioner for more details. "So what did it feel like when you discovered that you liked being spanked by your wife?"

Put "priest" into the tags portal and see what comes up. Go in via latest story and also by most popular. Plenty of people are writing about sex and religion. The most popular one has over 282 K views.

I don't need to. Fiction imitates reality. Look at my penname. Do you think I wear that only because a friend called me that? I've read worse stuff; ie Marquis de Sade, and I'm no stranger about writing religious stuff; I've been doing that since I was a teen because it fascinates me. Hell, part of my urban fantasy universe relies on Christian cosmology. I have one entire long project composed of many stories, and they all have [EXPUNGED BY ME, BUT I CONSENT TO A MOD SENDING ME OFF TO THE BASTILLE AND FLOGGING ME LIKE THE WHORE I AM]. Thus I studied the church's dark history (an effort that actually begun when I was a teen too), and I've learned plenty of things that happened around the clergy all the way back until the middle ages.

What I was saying is that I don't think OP was looking to get the priest character involved into anything sexual beyond the confession. Yes, they confess too because they are human, but having them aroused while hearing a spicy confession because they are human is no different than putting them on a pedestal because they are moralistic leaders. Both are extremes, and depending of the priest's level of experience, he might be more unfazed by spicy confessions. At the end of the day I'm merely especulating around the OP's message, and judging by their subtext, OP wants to make a respectful portrayal, not a Brazzers screenplay. Anyway, the final decision goes to OP, so if I'm wrong, OP will say so. It's their story, so they should do whatever they want.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

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Not sure why you'd go anywhere near where you're going.

Oh, ferfucksakes! (rolleyes)

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

I wrote my Valentine's Day story about St. Valentine getting his head chopped off, and I even had a Pope in the story. I sure hope that didn't break any rules.

People seemed to like it - it's sitting at a 4.72 right now.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Getting married would be a must, but beyond that, I think it would come down to your priest's judgement. It could very quite a bit. I think younger priests would tend to be more understanding about it. The tendency for the church has been towards becoming less hardline and condemnatory over the last century.

I left the church when I was an older teenager, so I'm not completely up to date on these things, but I'm pretty sure about the above.

Certainly in my lifetime the Church has got much happier about granting annulments, to the point my young cousins tell me it's 'just the Catholic word for divorce'. Which I can see for various ones where there's no children, but I recently found out one cousin got an annulment 30 years ago, after four kids...

 

[jehoram]

When I was a kid, I heard that priests would go to Confession too. I wondered what they could possibly confess.

Well, the few priests I've known were as human as anybody else. I would imagine that lust, envy, gluttony, and all that other stuff would have been familiar to them.

 

[Britva415]

That's the first time I've heard the joke that way round - it's always been the priest being happy about getting the leads off the boy!

and girls weren’t involved

 

[DreamingOfMyEx]

and girls weren’t involved

A while back while doing research for a paper I was writing (for school) I ran across an article in Psychology Today (hardly a hotbed of radical right wing politics, if you haven't read it lately) which quoted studies showing that Catholic clergy were far less likely to have committed the acts you're describing than Protestant clergy, who themselves were FAR less likely to do it than the general population.

But, because the people on television are telling us what to think and believe ....

 

[TheRedChamber]

But, because the people on television are telling us what to think and believe ....

And because an organization that claims to be the ultimate and infallible arbiters of the moral and spiritual good were covering it up...

I'm not going to get political and #NotAllPriests but just like the police or politicians, a bit of mockery (not to mention indignation) is more than their due.

That goes for other denominations as well (and other non Christian religious orgs) but Protestants are not such a united whole and so scandals are more compartmentalized to a single branch and they don't make such a broad target.

 

[DreamingOfMyEx]

Fine by me, as long as you know you're being manipulated and submit to it voluntarily.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Fine by me, as long as you know you're being manipulated and submit to it voluntarily.

This is one hell of a reach.

 

[DreamingOfMyEx]

This is one hell of a reach.

Not really, but then you're free to believe whatever you want. Or maybe not. That's the point.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Not really, but then you're free to believe whatever you want. Or maybe not. That's the point.

I believe that institutions which shelter and enable abusers are bad, and that they act as multipliers for the harm those abusers do.

I believe that trying to argue on the basis of "priests are less likely to be abusers than the general population", without considering how the damage those priests do is amplified by the institution, is lazy and bad logic. As is calling people "manipulated" for considering those factors.

YMMV.

 

[DreamingOfMyEx]

Most people who hate the Catholic Church, or the Christian church in general, don't give a rat's ass about abused children. They see the church as an entity which represents the idea of accountability for sin, something to which they are opposed. (Not the sin, the accountability.) They meet news of abusive priests with glee - it gives them another reason to attack what they hate.

This attitude carries over into virtually every facet of their lives. Let Joe Schmuck the construction worker beat his wife senseless every weekend, and it's "I don't wanna get involved". But any rumor of any impropriety on the part of certain classes of people, be they cops or teachers, and they can't wait to repeat what they've heard, to as many people as possible, and embellish as needed.

You care about children being abused by persons in positions of trust, but my guess is you yawn every time someone mentions Epstein and the Clinton connection. Why? Because if it was important, the people on television would tell you it's important. And if you think Black lives matter, why the hell are you not in Sudan fighting to free the Black slaves there? Because the people on television didn't tell you to. At the same time, look at all the people who never heard of Crimea or Chechnya and couldn't find those places on a map, but suddenly wanted to flock to Ukraine to "fight for freedom".

I know, I know, pearls before swine - but who knows, maybe someday some of this might register.

 

[EvaLane]

The Authors Hangout board is spicier than any other board on Lit lol, you guys are vicious.

Love it, never change, xoxoxoxoxox

 

[Bramblethorn]

Most people who hate the Catholic Church, or the Christian church in general, don't give a rat's ass about abused children. They see the church as an entity which represents the idea of accountability for sin, something to which they are opposed. (Not the sin, the accountability.) They meet news of abusive priests with glee - it gives them another reason to attack what they hate.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Hence, I dismiss this for the nonsense it is.

You care about children being abused by persons in positions of trust, but my guess is you yawn every time someone mentions Epstein and the Clinton connection. Why? Because if it was important, the people on television would tell you it's important. And if you think Black lives matter, why the hell are you not in Sudan fighting to free the Black slaves there? Because the people on television didn't tell you to. At the same time, look at all the people who never heard of Crimea or Chechnya and couldn't find those places on a map, but suddenly wanted to flock to Ukraine to "fight for freedom".

I know, I know, pearls before swine - but who knows, maybe someday some of this might register.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

So much effort to compile this list of Other Bad Things In The World rather than acknowledge that, yes, it's bad when institutions support and enable abusers within their ranks. Is that really such a difficult thing?

 

[DreamingOfMyEx]

The Authors Hangout board is spicier than any other board on Lit lol, you guys are vicious.

Love it, never change, xoxoxoxoxox

Actually, I'm rarely here, but I was interested in the original post and the actual respectful legitimate answers it would get. All the rest was just entertainment.

And I stay away from the politics board - just scrolling past it in the main menu and seeing the stupid things people write in the subject lines, my IQ always drops a point or two. I'm down to around 135 now, and can't afford to lose any more.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Just shut down the religion and politics. I won't say please. I don't have to. Y'all should know better.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

No-one's saying that most priests abuse children. But of people who do abuse children, most will seek out positions of responsibility and respectability which give them access to children. Music teachers. Scout leaders. Church leaders. Social workers.

Let's just say that doing youth work in the 90s when organisations started trying to put safeguarding into place was an experience - maybe only 1 in 20, 1 in 50 staff were dodgy, but pretty much every organisation had one. And for sure if you talk to kids who went to boarding schools or music schools in the 80s, they'll all have stories of pervy teachers.

 

[Voboy]

Before you get too deep into it,

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Not sure why you'd go anywhere near where you're going.

...because churchsmut is hot to a lot of readers, maybe? Just a guess.

And it's highly, highly possible to write a good, hot religious-fuckery story here without even a whiff of a problem with the site's rules. As usual, you're not contributing the way you think you're contributing.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I have a strong itch to unload my opinion on church and religion in general, but I won't because the way this thread progressed seems to be proving jaF0 right - for a change. And that's not because of the original post but because people can't seem to stop themselves whenever sensitive subjects such as politics - right vs left, religion and church, gender politics, and other delightful things pop up. I have a ton of those opinions myself but this isn't the place for them.

The O.P.'s post was legit, satirical, and humorous, and clearly something he wants to use in a story. But some of the posts clearly don't belong here.
A few threads earlier, I called us all "sensible adults" and criticized and mocked the way this forum is being moderated. Let's not start proving these mods and "admins" right.

 

[TheLobster]

This thread would’ve likely stayed on track if jaF0 didn’t butt in with his pearl clutching. He gets no points from me for allegedly being “proven right” when the proximate cause of this whole derailment is his attempt at pre-crime thought policing.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

This thread would’ve likely stayed on track if jaF0 didn’t butt in with his pearl clutching.

I am not sure about that in this case. People feel strongly about these topics and all it usually takes is just one small hint...

He gets no points from me for allegedly being “proven right” when the proximate cause of this whole derailment is his attempt at pre-crime thought policing.

That goes without saying, and I am glad more people are voicing such opinions.

 

[Voboy]

I am not sure about that in this case. People feel strongly about these topics and all it usually takes is just one small hint...

I don't think it's a problem with "people."

Puritanical moralizers are unlikely to be happy on Lit. They're not here to enjoy the site in the same way that 95% of the rest of the users are here to enjoy the site. They delight in tossing rocks into the pond and watching the ripples.

The rest is merely what happens all over the internet. Threads here WILL go off-topic; every forum sees that sort of behavior. But at their best, those derailments are organic and fun; MANY times I've discussed religion here, and it's normally kindly and informative. @jaF0 derails threads deliberately, and for no good reason. There's an agenda there.

Don't blame "people." Blame "the person."

 

[GrushaVashnadze]

@GrushaVashnadze Thanks for the offer. If its not too cheeky I might ask you to look over the story for general authenticity as I have one whole confession scene.

Sure, no problem. PM me when you're ready.

 

[GrushaVashnadze]

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My experience is that Laurel operates this rule with a fairly gentle touch. I have published a few things here involving sex with clergy, and/or in church, ranging from
psycho horror, e.g. The Cursed Cunt ch. 1
to gentle romance, e.g. Alison Goes to London ch. 17.
The only stories of mine she has rejected have been those which parody biblical stories - so I've published those elsewhere.