Racisim Or...?

[Chris_Michael]

"Freedom FROM Religion," needs to be above every State House Doorway.

Fundamentalists of every stripe are the enemy, Christian, Islamist, Hindu or Buddhist, Republican or Libertarian all need their heads examined.

I cannot disagree with that.

 

[phrodeau]

Yes, hobbit.

And Carnal, hello! Inquisition was a great Dragon Age game, much better than DA2.

So, we're Nazi Germany? Would you rather be Afghanistan? I hear it's warmer.

So how does the 1% of US population that's Muslim become a cultural threat compared to the 70% Christian population? Are they that much more vehement, zealous and political?

 

[BotanyBoy]

The terms racist, sexist, xenophobe, white privilege, whiteness, maleness, the patriarchy, white nationalism, fascist and Nazi/Nazism have no actual meaning when used by a social justice democrat as they are freely exchanged with one another and their usage is determined with the same basic thought pattern.

Do I agree with this person/comment/statistic/theory etc???

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YES!-----> Totally not racist, very progressive.

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NO! ----> Racist, sexist AND xenophobic!! KILL THE NAZI WHITE MALE SCUM!!!!!


And that's how progress is made.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Also, up until recently at least, we have LAWS regarding the sep of church and state. So while you're shaking in your bed at night about the Muslim hordes, the Fundies in the Country aided by Trump are taking that apart.

This is how the right operates. They make you afraid of exactly what they are doing to you.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Also, up until recently at least, we have LAWS regarding the sep of church and state. So while you're shaking in your bed at night about the Muslim hordes, the Fundies in the Country aided by Trump are taking that apart.

This is how the right operates. They make you afraid of exactly what they are doing to you.

Oh yea they are totally taking 1A apart

No convention, the separation of church and state is maintained.

And I seriously doubt that even if they have one after they take more ground from (D)'s that they will trash 1A.

Talk about fear mongering....what a fucking hypocrite.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Do a little reading.




Furthermore, where did 14 of the 16 terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 come from?

Saudi Arabia

What country is not on the Trump List?

Saudi Arabia.

So proclaim this ban and LEAVE OFF Saudi Arabia, after you've just enflamed them to hate us more? That makes so much sense.

Furthermore:

You create more terrorists, and there's always the possibility of more attacks abroad, there's the INTERWEBS where they recruit and radicalize each other, including people, Muslim or not, American or not, who already reside in the U.S.

Pakistan didn't make the list either. There must not be an terrorists there. The drone bombing is just practice.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Did you not pay any attention to what Trump did this week?

Oh that's right, you're too busy attacking the "left".

Oh yea they are totally taking 1A apart

No convention, the separation of church and state is maintained.

And I seriously doubt that even if they have one after they take more ground from (D)'s that they will trash 1A.

Talk about fear mongering....what a fucking hypocrite.

 

[phrodeau]

Yesterday morning, President Trump promised to "get rid of and totally destroy the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution."

That applies to every imam in every mosque in America. Chew on that, Republicans.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

He also appointed Jerry Falwell Jr. to a task force or liaison something for "Higher Education." So along with DeVos, that's putting two radical nutjobs of the Christian Right in charge of US Education policy

He proposed or is about to propose a sweeping Freedom of Religious Expression Act or some shit to protect the Kim Davis's of the world, and pharmacists who don't "believe" in birth control. In other words you do t have to carry out the federal law if it conflicts with your religion.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Did you not pay any attention to what Trump did this week?

Oh that's right, you're too busy attacking the "left".

If he didn't get rid of the 1st amendment then separation of church and state is still in place.

He also appointed Jerry Falwell Jr. to a task force or liaison something for "Higher Education." So along with DeVos, that's putting two radical nutjobs of the Christian Right in charge of US Education policy

OHHH love that socialism!!!

He proposed or is about to propose a sweeping Freedom of Religious Expression Act or some shit to protect the Kim Davis's of the world, and pharmacists who don't "believe" in birth control. In other words you do t have to carry out the federal law if it conflicts with your religion.

Why are you so intent on violating peoples religious freedom by forcing them to do something against their deeply held beliefs?

 

[phrodeau]

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Why are you so intent on violating peoples religious freedom by forcing them to do something against their deeply held beliefs?

Like denying them the right to stone wrongdoers, own slaves or practice polygamy? Because religion is crap, that's why.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I love how the guy who loves to scream in all caps that I WANT TO DESTROY, YES, DESTROY THE USA gets all anal and OCD about random shit ass posts on a free chat board.

Go read my posts again if you're so into close literary analysis. I didn't say the 1st amendment was gone or had disappeared, did I? I never said it wasn't still in place, or that church and state have collapsed into one--not yet, anyway.

I did say they are working on breaking down that separation, and that is exactly what they're doing.

I'm so confused.

Am I a socialist/commie or a corporate whore like Hillary?

I'm socialist AND a hypocritical corporate whore, whoo hoo

If he didn't get rid of the 1st amendment then separation of church and state is still in place.

OHHH love that socialism!!!

Why are you so intent on violating peoples religious freedom by forcing them to do something against their deeply held beliefs?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

It's the law.

If you want to break it, go ahead, but you should be arrested and jailed. If you don't like it, shove your Bible up your ass.

Why are you so intent on violating peoples religious freedom by forcing them to do something against their deeply held beliefs?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because religion is crap, that's why.

How dare you speak about the great Allah like that you Islamophobic NAZI!

I did say they are working on breaking down that separation, and that is exactly what they're doing.

When is the Constitutional Convention to shit can the 1st amendment??

Oh.....so they arent' breaking down that separation and you're full of shit.....again.

I'm so confused.

Am I a socialist/commie or a corporate whore like Hillary?

I'm socialist AND a hypocritical corporate whore, whoo hoo

Corporatism is a form of socialism, you can be both.

It's the law.

That's it?

LOL so was Jim Crow.....doesn't make it right.

Oh and we can change laws.

If you want to break it, go ahead, but you should be arrested and jailed.

Unless Muslim of course...they should be allowed to beat gays, women and run rape gangs because "cultural diversity!!" right??

If you don't like it, shove your Bible up your ass.

I don't own a Bible you presumptuous, arrogant, douche chugger.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Not by executive decree.

Oh and we can change laws.
.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not by executive decree.

Nobody is changing laws by EO, certainly not 1A.

And yes POTUS can govern to some extent through EO's.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Well then we agree. You cannot "change laws" by EO. Thank you for restating.

Nobody is changing laws by EO, certainly not 1A.

And yes POTUS can govern to some extent through EO's.

 

[JackLuis]

This circle of Derp reminds me of a conversation I overheard at the gym yesterday. A very determined nut was trying to convince another guy that we never got to the moon because in outer space there is no way a rocket could work as there is nothing for the rocket to 'push against' in a vacuum.

I made the comment that "I've seen Right Wingnuts and Left Wingnuts but this guy is an unthreaded wing nut."

The purpose of this thread was to point out that is pointless to argue that the EO is racism, when that is an unproveable point, the best way to argue against it is to point out that it is in violation of equal protection.

I have no doubt that the EO is unconstitutional, but arguing that is/is not racist is beside the point and results in the hysterical spouting of opinion not law.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Ultimately true, but we're on a free internet chat board. We're not in a courtroom.

This is where people spout opinions at each other.

I have no doubt that the EO is unconstitutional, but arguing that is/is not racist is beside the point and results in the hysterical spouting of opinion not law.

 

[JackLuis]

Ultimately true, but we're on a free internet chat board. We're not in a courtroom.

This is where people spout opinions at each other.

Oh, kinda like the White House then?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well then we agree. You cannot "change laws" by EO. Thank you for restating.

Restating the pointless...

The purpose of this thread was to point out that is pointless to argue that the EO is racism, when that is an unproveable point, the best way to argue against it is to point out that it is in violation of equal protection.

Equal protection doesn't apply to foreign nationals on the other side of the planet.

I have no doubt that the EO is unconstitutional,

Based upon what?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

No, you thought you were informing me of something, imparting information, when you were merely restating what I already said. That's pointless.

Restating the pointless...
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[BotanyBoy]

No, you thought you were informing me of something, imparting information,

You seemed to be implying that was what Trump was doing.

Then abandon that and went for "we agree".

Making it pointless.

when you were merely restating what I already said. That's pointless.

The whole thing was pointless, likely a distraction from your lack of evidence for your claims that separation of church and state are under attack.