Ravenloft
Sweet Rogue
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Jay Allen writes:
It's always good when both sides of a national debate speak their minds so clearly and with such force of conviction. I hope this report sparks dialogue that makes people aware of the other side of Jenna Jameson's "autobiography."
RE the below, this is one of truest things I've ever seen on this yahoogroup: "Sexual dysfunction is a very common trait in sex industry survivors. We call it "The Split." This is a complete sexual shut down or disassociation between the body and the mind during sex. Others also describe this as turning a trick without getting paid."
I may someday write a lengthy book chapter about my own experiences with women of erotica who ended up with exactly the same problem(s).....the way I've put it is "when sex has become the same thing as a handshake," there's a great sense of loss there, and the women who experience it are much the worse for this. As are their lovers.
RE "Aspen Brock," I'm actually familiar with her, we spoke once and I've seen two of her films she sent me, "White Trash Whore" and some other gangbang film, while she campaigned to be in Carnal Comics. In White Trash Whore, they put a toilet seat over her head and rape her mouth, and I think they DP her on the toilet. Now I would normally have long since forgotten her and these horror-show movies were it not for the fact that I was 99% positive she was on heroin at the time. I could tell from her demeanor, body language, vacant eyes and voice slurs in the films, and I could tell from talking to her - at the time, I was dating and managing the career of a well known heroin-addict porn star and spending time with her on the road, so I knew all-too-well the manifestations. At the time, when Aspen was talking about doing a comic, I gravitated toward the notion even tho I was already wrapping up my involvement with Carnal. I had this urge to, I dunno, throw her a rope. I sensed she was in deep trouble - the other film of hers she sent me, she starts crying when they start the anal sex. There's tears running down her face, she's sniffling and wiping them off with her makeup smearing, while some guy pounds her ass and a black guy stands behind them yelling "I'm next! I'm next!" There's very little contemporary porn that sticks in my mind, but I recall poor Aspen Brock in those two movies, and how sad it made/makes me.
Who knows if her heroin addiction predated her porn "career" - I doubt it matters. Both things, heroin and porn, she had to "survive" them. I'm glad she's telling her story.
It's always good when both sides of a national debate speak their minds so clearly and with such force of conviction. I hope this report sparks dialogue that makes people aware of the other side of Jenna Jameson's "autobiography."
RE the below, this is one of truest things I've ever seen on this yahoogroup: "Sexual dysfunction is a very common trait in sex industry survivors. We call it "The Split." This is a complete sexual shut down or disassociation between the body and the mind during sex. Others also describe this as turning a trick without getting paid."
I may someday write a lengthy book chapter about my own experiences with women of erotica who ended up with exactly the same problem(s).....the way I've put it is "when sex has become the same thing as a handshake," there's a great sense of loss there, and the women who experience it are much the worse for this. As are their lovers.
RE "Aspen Brock," I'm actually familiar with her, we spoke once and I've seen two of her films she sent me, "White Trash Whore" and some other gangbang film, while she campaigned to be in Carnal Comics. In White Trash Whore, they put a toilet seat over her head and rape her mouth, and I think they DP her on the toilet. Now I would normally have long since forgotten her and these horror-show movies were it not for the fact that I was 99% positive she was on heroin at the time. I could tell from her demeanor, body language, vacant eyes and voice slurs in the films, and I could tell from talking to her - at the time, I was dating and managing the career of a well known heroin-addict porn star and spending time with her on the road, so I knew all-too-well the manifestations. At the time, when Aspen was talking about doing a comic, I gravitated toward the notion even tho I was already wrapping up my involvement with Carnal. I had this urge to, I dunno, throw her a rope. I sensed she was in deep trouble - the other film of hers she sent me, she starts crying when they start the anal sex. There's tears running down her face, she's sniffling and wiping them off with her makeup smearing, while some guy pounds her ass and a black guy stands behind them yelling "I'm next! I'm next!" There's very little contemporary porn that sticks in my mind, but I recall poor Aspen Brock in those two movies, and how sad it made/makes me.
Who knows if her heroin addiction predated her porn "career" - I doubt it matters. Both things, heroin and porn, she had to "survive" them. I'm glad she's telling her story.