Republican Governor does great job with Gustav

[Faneros]

It's called, they learned from their mistakes.

Thx Pink....

 

[RightField]

How long was it before FEMA actually moved from their pre-staged areas into the disaster area? 3 days, even FEMA in it's own internal investigation admitted to huge failures in it's response.

Yes, they did MUCH better this time. But Jindal is hardly to be credited for the improved response.

Jindal said "Lets work together" and good things happened.

Blanco said "Can't let anyone associated with Republicans help or it will look bad for democrats....let them eat cake!"

 

[drown]

may you all choke
in the gordian knot
you make
of a most simple op...

jindal pre and post storm
has been head and shoulders
above the performance of
his predecessor...

this is not about the size of storm
or
where it hit
or
how the feds fucked up
or
where was bush
or
what did brownie do/not do...

it's not about
initial loss estimates
or
oil spills
or
opportunities to bash a competent official who happens to be a republican...

if anyone cares to pour over
the governor's press conferences before and after...
(as i did in real time...
and as you could as well throughout the next few days

wdsu tv - live on the net
wwl tv - live on the net)

you will witness,
sans armchair invective,
one of the most capable chief execs in the country...

informed, informative and commanding...

yes, he's a republican...
so, if need be, hold your biased noses
and simply watch this guy...

if only to know how to try to slaughter him in the future...

blanco?
you're trying to justify blanco?​

 

[zipman]

It just illustrates the differences in competancy between the democrat (screwed up and blamed everyone else while the citizens suffered over her agonizing over "how it would look" for if the Republican administration "took over") and the Republican (firm plan well executed with priorities in order and a focus on service for the citizens with little or no worry about "how it would look".)

Go ahead and complain some more...that's all libs are good at. All talk, no action.

The big differences were:
1) Lessons learned from Katrina - Nagin (D) ordering the mandatory evacuation of NO earlier.
2) Gustav was far less strong than Katrina
3) "Heck of a job Brownie" replaced by more competent Chertoff

The rest of the partisan crap is just your typical spin.

 

[Faneros]

The big differences were:
1) Lessons learned from Katrina - Nagin (D) ordering the mandatory evacuation of NO earlier.
2) Gustav was far less strong than Katrina
3) "Heck of a job Brownie" replaced by more competent Chertoff

The rest of the partisan crap is just your typical spin.

Its your number 1, by far. Also, they had some time to prepare for this. But maybe after Katrina they created an action plan for this type of emergency. I doubt it, but its possible. We had fire drills in high school....

 

[Wrong Element]

The big differences were:
1) Lessons learned from Katrina - Nagin (D) ordering the mandatory evacuation of NO earlier.
2) Gustav was far less strong than Katrina
3) "Heck of a job Brownie" replaced by more competent Chertoff

The rest of the partisan crap is just your typical spin.

Exactly. Unless people actually believe that a Democratic governor (Blanco or someone else) wouldn't also have been much more alert than the powers that be (in both Baton Rouge AND Washington) were in 2005.

I wish I had known that voting Republican could change the weather; I would have tried it years ago.

 

[Sean]

You're so full of shit. FEMA wasn't there this time either. You don't send anyone into the paths of those storms clown. Nor does FEMA do anything more than write checks. They are NOT first responders, never were, and never were intended to be.

Blanco and Nagin screwed the pooch and the people of LA know it, that's why Jindal in in office now. (And Nagin had to buss in evacuees and work the absentee ballots for all he was worth to keep his seat.)

Ishmael

Funny, the chief of the port in NO said on BBC radio today that FEMA were there. Who do we believe, you or him?

 

[zipman]

Its your number 1, by far. Also, they had some time to prepare for this. But maybe after Katrina they created an action plan for this type of emergency. I doubt it, but its possible. We had fire drills in high school....

They did have action plans based on a lot of the failures of Katrina as well as increased cooperation on the state and federal level.

But to ascribe it all to the difference between a democrat and a republican as Rightfield did is simply idiotic.

I can't decide if he's truly that stupid or just that desperate.

 

[zipman]

No response?

Heh.

 

[Ishmael]

They did have action plans based on a lot of the failures of Katrina as well as increased cooperation on the state and federal level.

But to ascribe it all to the difference between a democrat and a republican as Rightfield did is simply idiotic.

I can't decide if he's truly that stupid or just that desperate.

Really? Katrina devestated the Miss. coast, and parts of Alabama. Didn't see any bullshit there. Then there was a later storm that hit the TX. coast and rode into Houston. No bullshit there. Only in LA. did we see a complete malfunction of response , principally at the state and city level.

Whether you'd like to acknowledge it or not, we live in a Republic. The states and various municipalities have primary responsibility for preparedness, and first response. Blanco and Nagin screwed the pooch and the willing media did a pretty good job of laying it at Bushs doorstep, a place that it didn't belong.

The natural disasters before, and since, have done nothing but amplify the gross mismanagement on the part of the officials of the state of Louisianna and New Orleans.

Ishmael

 

[zipman]

Really? Katrina devestated the Miss. coast, and parts of Alabama. Didn't see any bullshit there. Then there was a later storm that hit the TX. coast and rode into Houston. No bullshit there. Only in LA. did we see a complete malfunction of response , principally at the state and city level.

Whether you'd like to acknowledge it or not, we live in a Republic. The states and various municipalities have primary responsibility for preparedness, and first response. Blanco and Nagin screwed the pooch and the willing media did a pretty good job of laying it at Bushs doorstep, a place that it didn't belong.

The natural disasters before, and since, have done nothing but amplify the gross mismanagement on the part of the officials of the state of Louisianna and New Orleans.

Ishmael

So you think there weren't improvements made to the disaster response?

Or do you think there wasn't increased cooperation between the feds and the state and local governments?

Or do you think that the whole difference is because Jindal is a republican like the thread starter implied.

Because otherwise I have no idea what fucking point your trying to make.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

No response?

Heh.

Yes. When the world didn't come to an end, but people still couldn't go home, the idiots who did evacuate are vowing never again...






Always crying wolf.

 

[zipman]

Yes. When the world didn't come to an end, but people still couldn't go home, the idiots who did evacuate are vowing never again...


Always crying wolf.

Actually that's not crying wolf.

People will always complain, no matter what the outcome.

Nagin was right to not let them back in until at least medical services were restored.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

So you think there weren't improvements made to the disaster response?

Or do you think there wasn't increased cooperation between the feds and the state and local governments?

Or do you think that the whole difference is because Jindal is a republican like the thread starter implied.

Because otherwise I have no idea what fucking point your trying to make.

Yes. Bush left it better than he found it. The war in Iraq is over, soldiers can come home, the economy never had that recession and actually looks like it's upticking. Yes, increased co-operation! No, the whole difference is that a Democrat wasn't elected as usual, that business as usual might not be a safe as assumed for a party.

The question is, again, why the hell are we trying to save a city that is doomed, according to the true, undeniable, unquestioned truth that the earth is round, God didn't create shit, and the ice is melting...?

Hurricanes are stronger now then they ever have been before, and more of them!

 

[Ishmael]

So you think there weren't improvements made to the disaster response?

Or do you think there wasn't increased cooperation between the feds and the state and local governments?

Or do you think that the whole difference is because Jindal is a republican like the thread starter implied.

Because otherwise I have no idea what fucking point your trying to make.

Of course there were. Primarily at the state level. Coordination between the states most importantly. And at the federal level as well. Each disaster is different and presents new challenges. The various agencies learn and adapt.

Ishmael

 

[zipman]

Yes. Bush left it better than he found it. The war in Iraq is over, soldiers can come home, the economy never had that recession and actually looks like it's upticking. Yes, increased co-operation! No, the whole difference is that a Democrat wasn't elected as usual, that business as usual might not be a safe as assumed for a party.

The question is, again, why the hell are we trying to save a city that is doomed, according to the true, undeniable, unquestioned truth that the earth is round, God didn't create shit, and the ice is melting...?

Hurricanes are stronger now then they ever have been before, and more of them!

The bizarre stream of consciousness thing filtered through your republican lens just doesn't make much sense.

That's why you end up posting to yourself like busybody more and more these days.

But have fun with that.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Sorry, forgot where I was...






http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122039890722392873.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

The bizarre stream of consciousness thing filtered through your republican lens just doesn't make much sense.

That's why you end up posting to yourself like busybody more and more these days.

But have fun with that.

You might be surprised to find who I have been posting with and what about...

 

[zipman]

Of course there were. Primarily at the state level. Coordination between the states most importantly. And at the federal level as well. Each disaster is different and presents new challenges. The various agencies learn and adapt.

Ishmael

Then what the hell was your first post about?

I never defended the way NO or Louisianna handled Katrina.

I just thought the threadstarter was a total idiot for trying to attribute it the entire difference to the new republican governor. I thought I made that pretty clear. What part of my post didn't you understand?

 

[zipman]

You might be surprised to find who I have been posting with and what about...

Actually I wouldn't be surprised because I couldn't care less.

Next?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Actually that's not crying wolf.

People will always complain, no matter what the outcome.

Nagin was right to not let them back in until at least medical services were restored.

I'm just telling you what the Democrats are saying about next time.





Like one guy said, "I'm sitting here with no electricity, I can do that at home."

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

The Democrats, by definition, represent the stupid...

 

[zipman]

Sorry, forgot where I was...






http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122039890722392873.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

I'll reply to this one later. Dinner is almost here.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

So, you're saying he did a poor job, or just can't bring yourself NOT to say somethig negative when you see the word Republican?






Who's Next?

 

[zipman]

The Democrats, by definition, represent the stupid...

As opposed to this post which represents intelligence?