Republican Supreme Court Justice: Repeal the Second Amendment

[KeithD]

I agree

Lets ban the 2nd A

as well as the

15th A

and the

19th A


OK?

I didn't say ban the 2nd Amendment. In fact, up the line I said that wasn't necessary. All we need to do is actually adhere to what it actually says.

You are trying to deflect and distract. I didn't think you could come up with a reasonable argument on what I actually posted. You're just a jerkoff sicko.

 

[BBX3]

You're a dumb shit. Repealing the Second or reversing Heller doesn't do away with the right to bear arms which pre-exists the Constitution. The Second and Heller both simple reaffirmed that. You're going to have to bleed and die in order to reverse a free people's right to bear arms, like the fore fathers had to do to affirm it. Stupid dunce.

4 fathers....but not 4 mothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MALE PRIVILEGE

I call BEE ESS

 

[BBX3]

I didn't say ban the 2nd Amendment. In fact, up the line I said that wasn't necessary. All we need to do is actually adhere to what it actually says.

You are trying to deflect and distract. I didn't think you could come up with a reasonable argument on what I actually posted. You're just a jerkoff sicko.

we gotta have the fucking FBI and Sheriff office DO their JOB!

thats what we gotta get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and COLOREDS and WOMEN are way more dangerous then GUNZ

Ban THEM

the 15t and the 19thhttp://pugsly.bechange.com/forum_fodder/ban_them_all.jpg

 

[KeithD]

we gotta have the fucking FBI and Sheriff office DO their JOB!

thats what we gotta get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and COLOREDS and WOMEN are way more dangerous then GUNZ

Ban THEM

the 15t and the 19th

Nope, not responsive. You can't come up with anything that's responsive or reasonable. You're empty. What a surprise.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I love how all these gun nuts are so patriotic and the US is the best country ever and how dare you mess with our constitution.

Same people who tremble in terror in their house scared to death of the government.

The US is the BEST. Give me a gun so I can protect myself from the US!

 

[Captainnumnuts]

I love how all these gun nuts are so patriotic and the US is the best country ever and how dare you mess with our constitution.

Same people who tremble in terror in their house scared to death of the government.

The US is the BEST. Give me a gun so I can protect myself from the US!

Wanna borrow my BB gun?

 

[Rightguide]

I love how all these gun nuts are so patriotic and the US is the best country ever and how dare you mess with our constitution.

Same people who tremble in terror in their house scared to death of the government.

The US is the BEST. Give me a gun so I can protect myself from the US!

If you weren't irreversibly retarded you might understand.

 

[KeithD]

If you weren't irreversibly retarded you might understand.

If you weren't irreversibly retarded you might actually respond to her point. But you can't, can you?

 

[adrina]

If you weren't irreversibly retarded you might actually respond to her point. But you can't, can you?

He, among others, never can.

Name calling to occur in five posts or less if I my guess is right.

 

[Hypoxia]

Wanna borrow my BB gun?

Will it be used on Botany Boy (BB) here?

Y'know you can get full-auto BB guns firing 3600 rounds/minute at rather high velocity. That should be sufficient protection from most pests.

 

[mark_j]

Will it be used on Botany Boy (BB) here?

Y'know you can get full-auto BB guns firing 3600 rounds/minute at rather high velocity. That should be sufficient protection from most pests.

Can't do that anymore unless you want to be tied to an air tank or a compressor.. They banned discharge of those freon cans about 25 years ago.

 

[KeithD]

Hello, hello, BBX3. You haven't responded to the questions. If machine guns were banned by law in 1986, over 30 years ago, and that hasn't been struck down by a 2d Amendment court ruling, what's to stop banning AR-15-type weapons because of the 2nd Amendment? And what is the functional utility of AR-15-type weapons in civilian hands other than to mow down people efficiently and effectively? You've been given several opportunities to respond to these points, and you just don't seem able to do so. Maybe your sicko gun nut colleagues can help you answer how the 2nd Amendment guarantees, and will continue to guarantee, you unlimited access to AR-15-type weapons.

 

[Rightguide]

If you weren't irreversibly retarded you might actually respond to her point. But you can't, can you?

I could, backwards, forward, and sideways, but it wouldn't do any good, numb nuts.

 

[KeithD]

I could, backwards, forward, and sideways, but it wouldn't do any good, numb nuts.

You haven't, because you can't. Who do you think you're fooling? You're as empty as BBX3.

Every day in every way, you deplorable Trump Chumps come closer and closer to taking the gas.

 

[sigh]

You're a dumb shit. Repealing the Second or reversing Heller doesn't do away with the right to bear arms which pre-exists the Constitution. The Second and Heller both simply reaffirmed that. You're going to have to bleed and die in order to reverse a free people's right to bear arms, like the fore fathers had to do to affirm it. Stupid dunce.

Actually, James Madison, the primary author of the Constitution didn't really want any of the Bill of Rights included. He knew they'd be more trouble than they're worth but logic didn't win the day then and rarely does it now.

You're right. Hell, repeal the first ten and very little would change except maybe we could have more reasonable discussions about these things.

For what it's worth, the 2nd isn't going anywhere. Setting aside that it would never even make it that far, it would take 3/4 of the state legislatures (or conventions) to agree to the amendment to repeal in order for it to pass. Anybody look at a red/blue map of the states lately? It just ain't gonna happen so let's all take a deep breath and have a round of bourbons. I'm buying but you have to guess which bar I'm at.

 

[HayleyLuvsSex]

Ban all guns!

 

[KeithD]

For what it's worth, the 2nd isn't going anywhere.

What I've noted is that the 2nd Amendment doesn't have to go anywhere for a supportable law (as the ban on machine guns has held for over 30 years so far) to be passed to ban civilian access to AR-15-type weapons and that the sole function of the AR-15-type weapons is to mow down lots of people at one crack efficiently and quickly--so those dragging their feet in getting them banned are just sicko supporters of mass murder of innocents. And BBX3 and Rightguide and their ilk just can't handle or argue against that. So, they try to distract and deflect and bluster irrelevantly.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If machine guns were banned by law in 1986

They were not banned. I own 3, my father owns 2.

I've posted links to fully transferable Class III NFA items for sale right now in this thread. There are no less than 4 Thompson SMG's for sale right now, Uzi's, M4's, Select fire M14's, M60's, AK47's, M249's, M203's, M240B's....they even have F4 Phantom and F-16 Fighting Falcons for sale to civilians.

There are literally hundreds of people on youtube peeling full auto and destructive devices, some as recent as last week.

Tanks....fighting vehicles....APC's.....all legal if you're willing to do the paperwork and have deep enough pockets to blow the coin on the toys.

what's to stop banning AR-15-type weapons because of the 2nd Amendment?

Because "AR-15 type weapons" are just semi-automatic rifles with scary looking accessories.

Banning them would require banning all semi-automatic everything...which is nearly every gun design in the last 160 years....which would almost certainly be found to violate 2A rights.

And what is the functional utility of AR-15-type weapons in civilian hands other than to mow down people efficiently and effectively? .

Same as any other sami-automatic rifles, AR-15's aren't special except in the MSM and it's ignorant lemming circles.

And BBX3 and Rightguide and their ilk just can't handle or argue against that. So, they try to distract and deflect and bluster irrelevantly.

I just sat your 2 dollar ass down and made change son.....you're very obviously out of your depth in this argument.

Focusing on AR-15's instead of semi-automatic weapons as well as thinking SMG/MG/DD's were banned being a key indicators of your ignorance.

 

[mark_j]

What I've noted is that the 2nd Amendment doesn't have to go anywhere for a supportable law (as the ban on machine guns has held for over 30 years so far) to be passed to ban civilian access to AR-15-type weapons and that the sole function of the AR-15-type weapons is to mow down lots of people at one crack efficiently and quickly--so those dragging their feet in getting them banned are just sicko supporters of mass murder of innocents. And BBX3 and Rightguide and their ilk just can't handle or argue against that. So, they try to distract and deflect and bluster irrelevantly.

That's because your entire premise is flawed. ATF didn't ban anything. You can still get a fully automatic machine gun if you are willing to go through the procedures to attain the proper transfer stamp.

The 1986 regulation you are so fond of quoting merely restricts the importation/manufacture of fully automatic weapons post the '86 regulation. All others pre-86 are grandfathered in. Granted it has made the pricing of such items very expensive as long as you can pass the qualifications to get the transfer stamp and certain states don't allow civilians (non-licensed dealers) to possess said items but it in no way actually banned anything.

 

[KeithD]

Ah, just look at the sicko gun nuts running to throw up crap to support their disgusting support for killing the innocents with weapons that can mow people down efficiently and quickly. Here's for the next round of AR-15 bullets coming the way of them and those they love. Their right to own a self-possessed penis substitute does not override anyone elses right to live and to go to school, a movie, or a church service without being slaughtered. Disgusting.

I repeat that the 2nd Amendment clearly--in clear writing--applies to regulated militia in the eighteenth century (before there was a standing army and because the United States had shown to itself in the Revolutionary War that it couldn't then afford a standing army), not self-centered gun nut sickos like we have posting here in the twenty-first century, and it does not say that people can own/have access to just any old firearm they want to. The United States does limit the type of weapons civilians can own and it should limit the ownership of AR-15s because half-witted folks like the Trump Chumps posting here have shown they have neither the maturity nor the humanity to handle them responsibly. The rest of the world is looking at violent Americans mass killing each other and just shaking their heads at our insanity. (An increasing number of them are probably saying good riddance and saying something about Darwinism in action.)

The Supreme Court hasn't ruled that people can own AR-15s. That hasn't come to the Supreme Court, and if a law were passed banning the AR-15, there's no reason to believe the Supreme Court would knock it down--it's not covered in the Constitution, including the 2nd Amendment.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Ah, just look at the sicko gun nuts running to throw up crap to support their disgusting support for killing the innocents with weapons that can mow people down efficiently and quickly. Here's for the next round of AR-15 bullets coming the way of them and those they love. Their right to own a self-possessed penis substitute does not override anyone's right to live. Disgusting.

Look at all that irrelevant bluster....

I guess you couldn't actually argue anything so you resort to name calling and appeal to emotion fallacies.

Typical of your ilk.

 

[KeithD]

Look at all that irrelevant bluster....

I guess you couldn't actually argue anything so you resort to name calling and appeal to emotion fallacies.

Typical of your ilk.

I laughed. This coming from you.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I laughed. This coming from you.

Deflect all you want champ.

Doesn't change the fact that you're full of it, got called on it and couldn't produce anything of substance to back it up.


All you got is irrelevant bluster, because grown up conversations are too hard.

 

[colddiesel]

Just askin'

Given that the Federal Government has a right to levy taxation, wouldn't it be simpler to tax the hell out of ammunition?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Given that the Federal Government has a right to levy taxation, wouldn't it be simpler to tax the hell out of ammunition?

Nope, we've already decided you can't tax civil rights out of existence.

Infringement is infringement.

Retired Justice Stevens is correct, if you want to go after any meaningful prohibitions you're going to have to get rid of 2A.

BUT FIRST!!!!!

You're going to have to figure out how to infringe on 2A, which is explicitly forbidden by 2A.

So even if you have the support, it STILL might not be legal to get rid of 2A...because 2A says you can't.

So......we are back to gun prohibitionist coming from absolutely THE most disadvantaged of legal positions possible.

It would be not only easier but significantly faster for the anti-gun folks to just pack their shit and move to a place that hasn't piled on legal protections upon legal protections for civilian armament since it's inception.

OR get over the prohibitionist bullshit, and start talking like adults about things we CAN do to make our situation better without the prohibition.