RIP, Robin Williams?

Barbara Wa Wa is doing a special tonight on ABC about Robin Williams life.


I'm trying to think of anyone who compiled a bigger history of entertaining interview footage than Robin Williams. He was famous for 35 years and killed pretty much any time he went on a talk show.
 
I have to agree. However, as they said on a kids' TV show when I was growing up, "Never know until you try." How many of us tried to help him?! I can honestly say I didn't.



You cannot possibly say honestly what he knew, let alone if he had any care, or (if so) its quality.



I don't honestly understand the second part of that question. As for the former, committing suicide is selfish!! Proof? It's also popularly referred-to as taking one's own life.

100% honest: This morning, I went to see a doctor for a pre-scheduled appointment. Before leaving my residence, I told my relative (also my transportation) I didn't know if I wanted to come home after, go do a few things (Lunch, bank, movie), or suggest to the doctor I go into the local mental-ward area (where I've spent time before). I honestly thought the last of these might be best for me, but (clearly) chose not to, largely because I knew doing so would guarantee I would spend every second I spent in there away from my niece & nephews, & that they would also spend that time away from me... That would most-likely make all of us more-depressed.



...Except for the large group of people who were feeling semi-OK yesterday, but are now without someone who could've made them feel even better any time in the next who-knows-how-long, but now is unable to do so... May be a win for him, but loss for potentially millions of others, who may develop depression due to this (added to who knows what else in their lives). SIS: Suicide Is Selfish.

How many of US tried to help him? Hell I don't know. I didn't even know where he lived so few could do anything to help him.

He talked about his substance abuse and his dealings with depression on many occasions. With his resources he had access to the best of care. Sometimes the best of care just isn't good enough.


My point about selfishness is that it is just as selfish for people to insist that a person live with their pain and demons as it is for that person to seek relief from them through suicide.

It is his life and his battle. He had the right to make that choice. How we feel about it has no bearing on the subject because we have no say in Robin Williams life or the way he chose to die. There were only 4 people that really had a right to have a say, but in the end it was still Robin's choice.
 
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I'm trying to think of anyone who compiled a bigger history of entertaining interview footage than Robin Williams. He was famous for 35 years and killed pretty much any time he went on a talk show.

This is a rare occasion for me, when I am actually counting the minutes until something I want to see comes on the tube.
 
Why is CNN interviewing Todd Bridges?

They brought him on because I guess he tweeted that Robin Williams was selfish. Now he is going on some huge cry fest about how he is such a victim because people are attacking him for that, and is going on and on about how great he is and how much he has done blah blah blah.

What a fucking stooge.
 
Why is CNN interviewing Todd Bridges?

They brought him on because I guess he tweeted that Robin Williams was selfish. Now he is going on some huge cry fest about how he is such a victim because people are attacking him for that, and is going on and on about how great he is and how much he has done blah blah blah.

What a fucking stooge.

He's likely bitter because he's the last of his show's castmates still alive, living with the notoriety of a ill-transitioned, failed non-career.

They didn't expect Robin to go, but he knows they're waiting for him to kick the bucket with no surprises whatsoever.
 
He's likely bitter because he's the last of his show's castmates still alive, living with the notoriety of a ill-transitioned, failed non-career.

They didn't expect Robin to go, but he knows they're waiting for him to kick the bucket with no surprises whatsoever.
The Todd Bridges retrospective would be over before they go to the first commercial break.
 
I know what a deep depression is like and I NEVER want to go back there, ever. You think things that you would never normally think. It's an awful place.
 
With his resources he had access to the best of care. Sometimes the best of care just isn't good enough.

We don't know if this would have been one of those times or not. Did he have access to it?! Certainly. Money for it?! Little doubt. But it's not like a bus or 49ers Stadium; He wouldn't/won't necessarily know the best if/when he saw them.

My point about selfishness is that it is just as selfish for people to insist that a person live with their pain and demons as it is for that person to seek relief from them through suicide.

I understood your point, but did (& continue to) disagree with it.

It is his life and his battle. He had the right to make that choice. How we feel about it has no bearing on the subject because we have no say in Robin Williams life or the way he chose to die. There were only 4 people that really had a right to have a say, but in the end it was still Robin's choice.

He had the right to make that choice; We all have that right, but any decision that need be made (thinking quickly) has (at best) a 50-50 chance, & he made the wrong choice.
 
I thought 20/20 was a bit of a let down. He did lots of interviews with ABC over the years, they could have picked the best ones and just let him talk in his own words.
 
I know what a deep depression is like and I NEVER want to go back there, ever. You think things that you would never normally think. It's an awful place.

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given history, i wish i could say never, but in my heart it's more of an, i hope i survive it next round. today was a good day. i feel like what i did today will lead to a better tomorrow. there is hope as i go to sleep. an ease of the heart. that is all i would wish on anyone. i am grateful for the spirit robin shared while he was with us. he is perfection in his craft, and what he shared rocketed across the world. hope and laughter. blunt honesty and crafted truth.

last night, my mom and i watched one of his recorded shows. i linked it in the other thread. we sat together and laughed and cried. the last week had been hell on her. we'd been drinking frosty drinks together and decompressing. today there were more tears of laughter. it is medicine, good for the soul. the man has soul.
 
I haven't read the whole thread because it's late. Apologies.

Robin's death has struck and stunned many Australians. And in the wake of his death comes an overwhelming supportive media response. Posts on facebook and twitter and in the Sydney Morning Herald that focus on mainly on depression and alcoholism, but his family also.

I know that in times like these people would (rightly so) be more sympathetic towards Williams and his family, but at the same time he was a star. A movie star who we remember from our younger days. Someone most people 30+ can relate to through film and television.

I don't know about the states or european countries, but alcoholism and depression aren't comfortable topics of discussion down under. A lot of people aren't comfortable talking about their feelings and/or problems.
 
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I'm still sorta feeling like, Fuck I can't believe he's gone. He was my favorite comedian, the 3 stooges ver 2.0 rolled into 1 personality. I considered him a fellow nutcase .

It's said he was newly out of rehab, obviously it didn't work for him. I'm just floored that with all the people he knew, his many famous friends , family that nobody thought to keep watch over him. If I was one of his friends I would have been his shadow. You don't come out of rehab cured, there's no cure. His loss is just so senseless.

This is for Your Buddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X_2IdybTV0
 
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I'm still sorta feeling like, Fuck I can't believe he's gone. He was my favorite comedian, the 3 stooges ver 2.0 rolled into 1 personality. I considered him a fellow nutcase .

It's said he was newly out of rehab, obviously it didn't work for him. I'm just floored that with all the people he knew, his many famous friends , family that nobody thought to keep watch over him. If I was one of his friends I would have been his shadow. You don't come out of rehab cured, there's no cure. His loss is just so senseless.

This is for Your Buddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X_2IdybTV0

Some people will not allow you to be their shadow. I had a friend many years ago who developed manic depression. We had been friends since childhood and were currently involved in a professional endeavor that by its very nature should have kept us as close as siamese twins.

But he kept pushing me away. Keeping his secret was more important to letting someone help. Eventually, the truth became "public." Even then he chose to alienate many of his friends.

I haven't spoke to him in nearly 20 years. The loss of that relationship was far more painful than any other I've been through.

But I could not deny that he had a right to make the choices he made.
 
Zelda Williams:

Zelda, who appeared with her father in the 2004 film "House of D," added, "To those he touched who are sending kind words, know that one of his favorite things in the world was to make you all laugh. As for those who are sending negativity, know that some small, giggling part of him is sending a flock of pigeons to your house to poop on your car. Right after you've had it washed. After all, he loved to laugh too."
 
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