Sheer Panties

[patford31769]

For some STRANGE reason, when Norm began sliding his new black pajama pants down, I lost ALL interest in that hansome chest under his raised new grey pajama top. And I zoomed-in my camera much LOWER!

I stopped the photo series here...partly because anything more explicit would only disappear around here anyway. But mostly because, as our man's PJ bottoms slid down even further, I suddenly found something MUCH better to hold in my hands than a CAMERA!

 

[panty_inspector]

I suddenly found something MUCH better to hold in my hands than a CAMERA!

i know that feeling well!

 

[ShavedGuy]

Hi Patty

I've just got a question for you. Hopefully you dont consider it a stupid question.

Here in South Africa i've been to a number of clubs with exotic dancers and all of the dancers are shaved bare. Not sure if by choice or by employer order.

You are an exotic dancer in Hawai yet you still have your natural bush. Is that the way all the dancers are in Hawai?

Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question

 

[Unplugged]

For some STRANGE reason, when Norm began sliding his new black pajama pants down, I lost ALL interest in that hansome chest under his raised new grey pajama top. And I zoomed-in my camera much LOWER!

I stopped the photo series here...partly because anything more explicit would only disappear around here anyway. But mostly because, as our man's PJ bottoms slid down even further, I suddenly found something MUCH better to hold in my hands than a CAMERA!

let's see...it's 2:50 here...meaning it's about 8:50 there....and only about 30 minutes from your post of black pj's being pulled down...so...taking out my trusty slide rule, graphing calculator and handy dandy sexual time estimator...you should be posting the next pic in....

2x4.499-Y+69...subtract the root of norm...plus the coeficient of 0=
2.399 hours...give or take a lick or two...

 

[patford31769]

Hi Patty

I've just got a question for you. Hopefully you dont consider it a stupid question.

Here in South Africa i've been to a number of clubs with exotic dancers and all of the dancers are shaved bare. Not sure if by choice or by employer order.

You are an exotic dancer in Hawai yet you still have your natural bush. Is that the way all the dancers are in Hawai?

Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question

No, not stupid at all. There's no REQUIREMENT that the girls shave. Some shave completely, others have a little "landing strip" (a straight line of hair up from the pussy). It's their choice, many say it makes them feel pretier and sexier, and that's fine if it helps tehm feel betetr about themselves.

But Norm loves me thick and hairy, so I leave it like that. Frankly, having a full bush makes me feel like the mature (I';m 32) and very sexual woman I know myself to be. When I did have it shave in the past, I felt like a little school girl. Norm says lots of guys fantasize about taking the virginity of a school girl, but he'd rather have a mature, sophiticated, hairy WOMAN who loves sex, knows what she wants, isn't afraid to ask for what she wants or even to simply take it, compared to an inexperienced school girl who has no hair yet and who knows neither how to give nor how to receive pleasure!

Lots of guys I dance for have told me the shaved girls tend to blend in their memory, one becomes indistinguishable from another over time, but they always remember bushy Patty. They also remember because unlike some girls, I really ENJOY what I do (or I wouldn''t have done it for the past 13 years!) Quite a few of the dancers are just working their way through college. They act TOTALLY bored, sit there chewing gum or talking to other girls and not looking at their customers, not making eye contact, not focusing on the guy at all. Some have canned routines that they follow exactly every time. Like just as the guy starts to throb, oh, this is the point where she always gets up and slaps hwer ass or flashes her pussy at him, so she does that and frustrates the hell out of the guy just s he's starting to enjoy feeling her on his lap. I NEVER do that!

I listen to what the guy tells me he likes, both in words and body language, or I try things until I find what makes him moan and throb, and then I do that particular thing with great intensity. Sometimes the guy gets so excited that he starts to turn ME on, and a few times with a few customers, I've actually come in my panties right oin their laps! Guys are ususally pretty courteous about not coming on my panties, but a few guys have told me they barely have time to race to the men's room to explode in the privacy of a stall, and honestly I find it quite flattering that my hairy bush and sexy moves on their laps can affect a guy THAT powerfully, makes me feel VERY beautiful, sexy, and desirable!

I have one client, I'll strectch out sideways face up across his lap, wearing only my thong (no bra, no shoes). He'll look down at my breasts just inches from his face, and his face will light up in a big happy smile. I'll put one leg behind him and the other in front of him and rubb my inner thigh against his crotch and my foot against his butt. Then I'll pull my panties to one side and let his eyes have a long admiring drink of my naked pussy outlined by my thick fur.

I'll be rewarded by feeling him throb thorugh his pants, digging against my bare inner thigh, which makes me start to juice up. I'll cover up again so he can't see my juices seeping along the edges of my lips. Then I'll climb up on his lap facing him and grind my thong very hard up against his trouser bulge. I'll feel him throbbing, only his trousers and my skimpy thong separating his hard-on from my moist pussy. I'll flash him one last glimpse of my fur, and he'll throb SO hard against me! So I don't think this customer minds at ALL that I'm unshaved!

As I grind against him, facing him, gazing into his eyes, and as he throbs ever harder against teh front of my thong, I almost always come in my panties right about then. He very quickly pays me and races to the men's room. That's as hot as it ever gets between a customer and me! Because I could never betray Norm and our love by having ACTUAL sex with another man! Plus I want to go home and take that eecitement home to Norm, to feel the man I love give it to my over-excited pussy good and hard and deep and fast! But I am ALWAYS happy to see this paryicular client...you BET!

So guys remember me for my unusual bushiness AND for how much enjoyment I bring them AND for how much I genuinely enjoy myself, too. I have custoimers who come back to see me many, many times, some drop in after YEARS because they still can't forget me!

I don't think I would be that memorable if I were clean-shaven or acted totally bored and became just like any other dancer. I'm unusual, I'm different, I'm exotic, I stand out from the ordinary dancer, and I have a fercely loyal clientele because of it. We have a board that lists who's in the club at any moment, and some guys tell me that if they don't see my name on the board, they simply turn and around and go home, because anyone else would be a total waste of their time and money. Do you know how flattering ut is to hear that, how beautiful and sexy such comments make me feel?

So I may be unusual to be an unshaved dancer, but it's my trademark and I'm not changing it! Plus when I get home and peel down for one final man...Norman...and he adoes my bush with his eyes, worships my furriness with his hands, his nuzzling nose, his swirling tongue...well no way in HELL am I going to shave and lose his thrilling adoration of what he so lovingly calls my "luxurious carpet of thick fur"!

Those who don't like hairy pussies have PLENTY of shaved dancers to choose from (even Lola is far less furry than I am!) There are more than enough customers who LIKE to get lap dances from me! I make more each day, dancing 3 nights a week, than I did in two full weeks of working 60 hours a week at an office job before I became a dancer at 19. And I have lots of free time for my family. If I told you the combined income of me dancing, Lola dancing, and our high-paid executive man, well you would faint! Let's just say between us we're WELL past halfway toward making a million a year between us. And a siginificant portion of that is due to the popularity of me and my unuusal and memorable hairy pussy on stage and in lap dances. We and our kids want for nothing, neither love nor material goods.

Hope this answers your question, stud.

 

[patford31769]

let's see...it's 2:50 here...meaning it's about 8:50 there....and only about 30 minutes from your post of black pj's being pulled down...so...taking out my trusty slide rule, graphing calculator and handy dandy sexual time estimator...you should be posting the next pic in....

2x4.499-Y+69...subtract the root of norm...plus the coeficient of 0=
2.399 hours...give or take a lick or two...

Huh? I am a TOTAL loss as to what the hell you are talking about!

Just what the hell HAVE you been smoking, dude? LOL

 

[patford31769]

i know that feeling well!

Well, after Norm popped out of his PJ bottoms, I did take ONE more pic, of what my hands and my tongue simply could no longer resist! What his PJs had been hiding was just too beautiful NOT to record for posterity! Something for me to daydream over during the long daytime hours when Norm's at work!

But since my fans seem to be guys and not women, and since sexy pics tend to be deleted around here anyway, is it worth posting that 6th and last photo of Norm and his holiday PJs?

I'll post it ONLY if someone asks!



Patty

 

[mnwerewolf]

Well, after Norm popped out of his PJ bottoms, I did take ONE more pic, of what my hands and my tongue simply could no longer resist! What his PJs had been hiding was just too beautiful NOT to record for posterity! Something for me to daydream over during the long daytime hours when Norm's at work!

But since my fans seem to be guys and not women, and since sexy pics tend to be deleted around here anyway, is it worth posting that 6th and last photo of Norm and his holiday PJs?

I'll post it ONLY if someone asks!



Patty

Oh baby come on give us a peek.

 

[patford31769]

OK...since you ASKED...final pic of Norm emerging from his new holiday PJs.

Hope you like it...and hope it doesn't disappear like so many photos around here seem to do!

Wish he was home right NOW, so I could show him how VERY much I love and adore him! Mmmm! To wrap my lips around all of THAT yet again! EITHER set of lips!

 

[ShavedGuy]

No, not stupid at all. There's no REQUIREMENT that the girls shave. Some shave completely, others have a little "landing strip" (a straight line of hair up from the pussy). It's their choice, many say it makes them feel pretier and sexier, and that's fine if it helps tehm feel betetr about themselves.

But Norm loves me thick and hairy, so I leave it like that. Frankly, having a full bush makes me feel like the mature (I';m 32) and very sexual woman I know myself to be. When I did have it shave in the past, I felt like a little school girl. Norm says lots of guys fantasize about taking the virginity of a school girl, but he'd rather have a mature, sophiticated, hairy WOMAN who loves sex, knows what she wants, isn't afraid to ask for what she wants or even to simply take it, compared to an inexperienced school girl who has no hair yet and who knows neither how to give nor how to receive pleasure!

Lots of guys I dance for have told me the shaved girls tend to blend in their memory, one becomes indistinguishable from another over time, but they always remember bushy Patty. They also remember because unlike some girls, I really ENJOY what I do (or I wouldn''t have done it for the past 13 years!) Quite a few of the dancers are just working their way through college. They act TOTALLY bored, sit there chewing gum or talking to other girls and not looking at their customers, not making eye contact, not focusing on the guy at all. Some have canned routines that they follow exactly every time. Like just as the guy starts to throb, oh, this is the point where she always gets up and slaps hwer ass or flashes her pussy at him, so she does that and frustrates the hell out of the guy just s he's starting to enjoy feeling her on his lap. I NEVER do that!

I listen to what the guy tells me he likes, both in words and body language, or I try things until I find what makes him moan and throb, and then I do that particular thing with great intensity. Sometimes the guy gets so excited that he starts to turn ME on, and a few times with a few customers, I've actually come in my panties right oin their laps! Guys are ususally pretty courteous about not coming on my panties, but a few guys have told me they barely have time to race to the men's room to explode in the privacy of a stall, and honestly I find it quite flattering that my hairy bush and sexy moves on their laps can affect a guy THAT powerfully, makes me feel VERY beautiful, sexy, and desirable!

I have one client, I'll strectch out sideways face up across his lap, wearing only my thong (no bra, no shoes). He'll look down at my breasts just inches from his face, and his face will light up in a big happy smile. I'll put one leg behind him and the other in front of him and rubb my inner thigh against his crotch and my foot against his butt. Then I'll pull my panties to one side and let his eyes have a long admiring drink of my naked pussy outlined by my thick fur.

I'll be rewarded by feeling him throb thorugh his pants, digging against my bare inner thigh, which makes me start to juice up. I'll cover up again so he can't see my juices seeping along the edges of my lips. Then I'll climb up on his lap facing him and grind my thong very hard up against his trouser bulge. I'll feel him throbbing, only his trousers and my skimpy thong separating his hard-on from my moist pussy. I'll flash him one last glimpse of my fur, and he'll throb SO hard against me! So I don't think this customer minds at ALL that I'm unshaved!

As I grind against him, facing him, gazing into his eyes, and as he throbs ever harder against teh front of my thong, I almost always come in my panties right about then. He very quickly pays me and races to the men's room. That's as hot as it ever gets between a customer and me! Because I could never betray Norm and our love by having ACTUAL sex with another man! Plus I want to go home and take that eecitement home to Norm, to feel the man I love give it to my over-excited pussy good and hard and deep and fast! But I am ALWAYS happy to see this paryicular client...you BET!

So guys remember me for my unusual bushiness AND for how much enjoyment I bring them AND for how much I genuinely enjoy myself, too. I have custoimers who come back to see me many, many times, some drop in after YEARS because they still can't forget me!

I don't think I would be that memorable if I were clean-shaven or acted totally bored and became just like any other dancer. I'm unusual, I'm different, I'm exotic, I stand out from the ordinary dancer, and I have a fercely loyal clientele because of it. We have a board that lists who's in the club at any moment, and some guys tell me that if they don't see my name on the board, they simply turn and around and go home, because anyone else would be a total waste of their time and money. Do you know how flattering ut is to hear that, how beautiful and sexy such comments make me feel?

So I may be unusual to be an unshaved dancer, but it's my trademark and I'm not changing it! Plus when I get home and peel down for one final man...Norman...and he adoes my bush with his eyes, worships my furriness with his hands, his nuzzling nose, his swirling tongue...well no way in HELL am I going to shave and lose his thrilling adoration of what he so lovingly calls my "luxurious carpet of thick fur"!

Those who don't like hairy pussies have PLENTY of shaved dancers to choose from (even Lola is far less furry than I am!) There are more than enough customers who LIKE to get lap dances from me! I make more each day, dancing 3 nights a week, than I did in two full weeks of working 60 hours a week at an office job before I became a dancer at 19. And I have lots of free time for my family. If I told you the combined income of me dancing, Lola dancing, and our high-paid executive man, well you would faint! Let's just say between us we're WELL past halfway toward making a million a year between us. And a siginificant portion of that is due to the popularity of me and my unuusal and memorable hairy pussy on stage and in lap dances. We and our kids want for nothing, neither love nor material goods.

Hope this answers your question, stud.

WOW...thanx Patty, that more than answers my question. Not only did you answer my question, but you managed to get me turned on as well by the way you described your lap dances.

Thanx for that lovely answer, if i ever get to hawai, i will have to make sure i pay a visit to the club you work at...ok first i'll have to find out which one of the islands you on

 

[patford31769]

WOW...thanx Patty, that more than answers my question. Not only did you answer my question, but you managed to get me turned on as well by the way you described your lap dances.

Thanx for that lovely answer, if i ever get to hawai, i will have to make sure i pay a visit to the club you work at...ok first i'll have to find out which one of the islands you on

I'm in Honolulu, sugar!

And if you promise to bring your FRIEND with you:

https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=217248
https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=217254

I just might show you BOTH a great time! Mmmmmm! Looks ssooooo lickable!

Patty

 

[patford31769]

Hmmm, interesting. Supposedly there are NO censors here and I'm just being paranoid, it's just a computer glitch that's making so many of my photos disappear!

Yet the photos of Norm's chest remain, while the photo of his pubic hair, and the photo of his cock, have vanished from my series on his new PJs! That's one HELL of a selective computer glitch, don't you think?

Here's another pic of Norm for that highly-selective computer glitch to have fun with. He wasn't fully hard yet here (at full length the tip touches his navel), but I made it my personal mission to GET him there!

Lola and I love to buy G-strings for our man. We get to have fun THREE times:

First, when buying the G-string for him, closing our eyes and picturing how HOT he's going to look in it!

Second, watching him slip into them, knowing the tiny fabric has NO hope of containing all of his wonderful manliness!

Third, when he either does a slow strip tease for us or lets us take it off of him, so we can reveal EVERY beautiful inch of him!

That might explain why in 3 years we've bought him like 50 or 60 different G-strings!

This one (Mmmmm! He's our jungle man!), and the fishnet G-string that you can see EVERYTHING through, are among our favorites.

 

[ShavedGuy]

I'm in Honolulu, sugar!

And if you promise to bring your FRIEND with you:

https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=217248
https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=217254

I just might show you BOTH a great time! Mmmmmm! Looks ssooooo lickable!

Patty

Oooooh now that is an offer too good to refuse Patty

Mmmmmm i'm sure you would be able to make both me and my friend extremely happy


now as far as the vanishing pics go.....yup they are being censored....here is the answer from the MOD

Missing Images? Please read

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello All:

Upon returning from my holiday festivities, I found several PMs asking about missing pictures. I PM'd Laurel, asking if it was a Lit glitch, or if images were removed.

Images HAVE been removed that are in violation of Lit's posting guidelines. A reminder of those guidelines can be found here:

https://forum.literotica.com/...ad.php?t=346199

The laws have changed, and Lit has had to change along with them, or risk being shut down for violating those laws. As those that run Lit do not want the site shut down (and I hope that you don't either), they have been removing pics as they find them. You can also help with this by a) not posting pics in violation of the guidelines, and b) reporting pics that are in violation as you see them.

Personally, I think it's a shame that the freedom that was had in posting previously (with SOME limitations) is no longer possible. However, if we want to avoid lawsuits, fines, imprisionment, etc. - as well as keep Literotica available to us, this is what we have to live with.

Thanks to all for your patience - I hope this answers your questions.

Thanks,

Nigel

 

[patford31769]

Wow! A new record! That latest pic of Norm popping out of his G-string vanished after just 45 seconds! (I timed it!). Yet my photos of Hawaiian scenery have stayed on for DAYS!

That's one AMAZING computer glitch there!

Just for fun, let's time how long THIS one lasts! It's that fishnet G-string I mentioned that's Lola's and my favorite (if you catch it before it disappears, I think you'll see why we lkike it ssoooo much!)

Patty

 

[ShavedGuy]

Wow! A new record! That latest pic of Norm popping out of his G-string vanished after just 45 seconds! (I timed it!). Yet my photos of Hawaiian scenery have stayed on for DAYS!

That's one AMAZING computer glitch there!

Just for fun, let's time how long THIS one lasts! It's that fishnet G-string I mentioned that's Lola's and my favorite (if you catch it before it disappears, I think you'll see why we lkike it ssoooo much!)

Patty

I think i must get myself one of those......i think my girlfriend will like it

Would make a change seeing as i dont own a single pair of underpants...i always go bareback...prefer it that way....havent worn underpants now for i think around 15 years......

Censorship is a strange thing......shock horror.....you cant see any pussy or cock, but never mind, turn on the tv, watch the news and see someone getting shot or blown up....strange but true......pussy and cock will corrupt the youth, but seeing people get killed is just fine

 

[patford31769]

Oooooh now that is an offer too good to refuse Patty

Mmmmmm i'm sure you would be able to make both me and my friend extremely happy


now as far as the vanishing pics go.....yup they are being censored....here is the answer from the MOD

Missing Images? Please read

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello All:

Upon returning from my holiday festivities, I found several PMs asking about missing pictures. I PM'd Laurel, asking if it was a Lit glitch, or if images were removed.

Images HAVE been removed that are in violation of Lit's posting guidelines. A reminder of those guidelines can be found here:

https://forum.literotica.com/...ad.php?t=346199

The laws have changed, and Lit has had to change along with them, or risk being shut down for violating those laws. As those that run Lit do not want the site shut down (and I hope that you don't either), they have been removing pics as they find them. You can also help with this by a) not posting pics in violation of the guidelines, and b) reporting pics that are in violation as you see them.

Personally, I think it's a shame that the freedom that was had in posting previously (with SOME limitations) is no longer possible. However, if we want to avoid lawsuits, fines, imprisionment, etc. - as well as keep Literotica available to us, this is what we have to live with.

Thanks to all for your patience - I hope this answers your questions.

Thanks,

Nigel

Hmmm, I wonder, is there much point to keeping Literotica here at all when you can't admit you initiated, enjoyed, and fondly remember sex before you were 18? When you can't show nipples, cocks, or pussies? When the only thing SAFE to post around her is photos of trees and lakes? Just what are we preserving here with this VERY censored web site anyway?

 

[ShavedGuy]

Hmmm, I wonder, is there much point to keeping Literotica here at all when you can't admit you initiated, enjoyed, and fondly remember sex before you were 18? When you can't show nipples, cocks, or pussies? When the only thing SAFE to post around her is photos of trees and lakes? Just what are we preserving here with this VERY censored web site anyway?

yup so much for freedom of speach, etc etc etc

Let BUSH stand on his podium and sprout forth all his bullshit about this and that, while congress tightens the noose around the rest of the citizens necks....pretty soon no freedom

 

[patford31769]

I think i must get myself one of those......i think my girlfriend will like it

Would make a change seeing as i dont own a single pair of underpants...i always go bareback...prefer it that way....havent worn underpants now for i think around 15 years......

Censorship is a strange thing......shock horror.....you cant see any pussy or cock, but never mind, turn on the tv, watch the news and see someone getting shot or blown up....strange but true......pussy and cock will corrupt the youth, but seeing people get killed is just fine

Right ON! When I was a kid I could walk into any theatre and watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre but I couldn't watch porn classics like Deep Throat, or Debbie Does Dallas! I once asked a guy, wouldn't you have more fun bathing my pussy with your adoring tongue than hacking my twat into a million pieces with a chain saw? I just don't understand censorship at all!

I also don't understand Christian women. Christianity says women are impure and evil, caused the fall from grace in the Garden of Eden, and are therefore condemned to excriating pain in childbirth! Christ tells his disciples to leave ther wives and devote themselves only to him. Lot offers-up his virgin daughters to a hostile crowd to spare his own life. In the 17th century witch trials, if a woman was just so much as accused of being a witch, she was tossed in a lake. If she floated or swam, that proved she was a witch, and she was then burned to death. If she drowned, oh well, she might or might not have been a witch but she was just as dead. In the early 20th century, Christian ministers far and wide preached against the evils of letting women vote. What I don't understand, given Christianity's long history of hatred and violence and opression toward women, why would any woman BE a Christian?

 

[patford31769]

yup so much for freedom of speach, etc etc etc

Let BUSH stand on his podium and sprout forth all his bullshit about this and that, while congress tightens the noose around the rest of the citizens necks....pretty soon no freedom

For five years now, every freedom Bush has wanted to rob us of, Congress...both Democrat and Republican...has simply snapped their heels, and saluted Zieg Heil! And done whatever he asked. Want to send our poorest lads to Iraq to get blown to bits while the rich kids are exempt! Because Saddam once threatened to kill your dad and you want to take your rvenge on the entire Iraqi nation? Zeig Heil! Heil Bush! You may do so sir! Want to build a pipeline across Afganistan to further enrich your family's oil companies? Heil bush! We'll bomb the HELL out of them and you'll get your pipeline! Heil, Bush! Zeig heil! Want to pass the Patriotic Act allowing you to investiagte and detain anyone without cause and without trial. Thy will be done! Heil Bush! Want to totally SHRED our Constitutiuon? Done, sir! Zeig Heil!

It's disgusting. Congress, the press, everyone has fallen into lock step with this American dictator! Zeig Heil! Heil Bush! NOBODY has the backbone to push back against this. Even a sex web site that USED to be all about free speech and free expression has TOTALLY capitulated to this!

Want to punish gays and erode what few rights they have managed to win after a long hard fight? Done sir, we'll overturn their every freedom! No more gay marriages ANYWHERE! Heil Bush!

Want to roll back all Civil Rights legislation and abolish Roe v Wade? We in congress are working hard on that for you sir, we'll get it done over time! Heil Bush!

And now I can't even show off my pretty little pussy and Norm's spectacular cock on a SEX web site! Heil Bush!

Patty

 

[ShavedGuy]

Right ON! When I was a kid I could walk into any theatre and watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre but I couldn't watch porn classics like Deep Throat, or Debbie Does Dallas! I once asked a guy, wouldn't you have more fun bathing my pussy with your adoring tongue than hacking my twat into a million pieces with a chain saw? I just don't understand censorship at all!

I also don't understand Christian women. Christianity says women are impure and evil, caused the fall from grace in the Garden of Eden, and are therefore condemned to excriating pain in childbirth! Christ tells his disciples to leave ther wives and devote themselves only to him. Lot offers-up his virgin daughters to a hostile crowd to spare his own life. In the 17th century witch trials, if a woman was just so much as accused of being a witch, she was tossed in a lake. If she floated or swam, that proved she was a witch, and she was then burned to death. If she drowned, oh well, she might or might not have been a witch but she was just as dead. In the early 20th century, Christian ministers far and wide preached against the evils of letting women vote. What I don't understand, given Christianity's long history of hatred and violence and opression toward women, why would any woman BE a Christian?

Yup religion......i cant comment being an atheist myself......


Take this for an example........i decide to write a book now, lets just call it the bible for namesake. Then i put it in a fireproof, everything proof safe.

Tomorrow there is a nuclear war and the whole of humanity is wiped out apart from say a nursery school with a couple of hundred kids in it.....they manage to survive and they grow up and nature takes it's course they have sex and multiply.....but they know nothing about current religion as there was nobody around to teach them. Then by accident one day they find my bible in the safe and read it.......would that then become a religion, regardless of what bullshit i had written in it????

Just a far out theory

 

[ShavedGuy]

For five years now, every freedom Bush has wanted to rob us of, Congress...both Democrat and Republican...has simply snapped their heels, and saluted Zieg Heil! And done whatever he asked. Want to send our poorest lads to Iraq to get blown to bits while the rich kids are exempt! Because Saddam once threatened to kill your dad and you want to take your rvenge on the entire Iraqi nation? Zeig Heil! Heil Bush! You may do so sir! Want to build a pipeline across Afganistan to further enrich your family's oil companies? Heil bush! We'll bomb the HELL out of them and you'll get your pipeline! Heil, Bush! Zeig heil! Want to pass the Patriotic Act allowing you to investiagte and detain anyone without cause and without trial. Thy will be done! Heil Bush! Want to totally SHRED our Constitutiuon? Done, sir! Zeig Heil!

It's disgusting. Congress, the press, everyone has fallen into lock step with this American dictator! Zeig Heil! Heil Bush! NOBODY has the backbone to push back against this. Even a sex web site that USED to be all about free speech and free expression has TOTALLY capitulated to this!

Want to punish gays and erode what few rights they have managed to win after a long hard fight? Done sir, we'll overturn their every freedom! No more gay marriages ANYWHERE! Heil Bush!

Want to roll back all Civil Rights legislation and abolish Roe v Wade? We in congress are working hard on that for you sir, we'll get it done over time! Heil Bush!

And now I can't even show off my pretty little pussy and Norm's spectacular cock on a SEX web site! Heil Bush!

Patty

Looks like the US is travelling backwards in time....next thing Bush will be re-instating slavery

 

[patford31769]

Yup religion......i cant comment being an atheist myself......


Take this for an example........i decide to write a book now, lets just call it the bible for namesake. Then i put it in a fireproof, everything proof safe.

Tomorrow there is a nuclear war and the whole of humanity is wiped out apart from say a nursery school with a couple of hundred kids in it.....they manage to survive and they grow up and nature takes it's course they have sex and multiply.....but they know nothing about current religion as there was nobody around to teach them. Then by accident one day they find my bible in the safe and read it.......would that then become a religion, regardless of what bullshit i had written in it????

Just a far out theory

Very interesting. Would people feel a need for a god and prayer if they weren't raised on it?

People forget how the bible came to be. A bunch of ignorant, superstitious cavemen looked around at the world, bewildered and terrified. Why did the sun disappear every night and plunge them into total terrifying drakness? Why did lions eat their young? Why did fires burn their grass huts? Why were the stars visible and beautiful only at night? Why were there floods and earthquakes and volcanoes? Hmmm, there must be a very wise man sitting up in the clouds who has reasons for all these strange and terrifying things, but he is so wise we couldn't possibly understand why he does these things. He is so wise and so powerful, let's all worship him in a mix of awe and fear. Maybe if we worship him hard enough, he'll send us one less flood, spare one more child from being eaten by wild animals.

These stories got passed down verbally from generation to generation, and embellished, until finally about 300 A.D. (that's right, A.D., not B.C.) someone FINALLY thought to write it down (the oldest bible manuscipt found so far carbon-dates to only 300 A.D., not pre-Christian era as religions would like you to believe!). If that sounds far fetched, that a story was passed down and embellished for hundreds of years before anyone wrote it down, recall that Homer was the first to write down the story of the Trojan War, hundreds of years after it happened! And if you'll recall in Roots, the story of Kunte Kinte being abducted from the jungle while making a new drum was passed down verbally on BOTH sides of the Atlantic for 200 years before Alex Haley wrote it down!

But that's ALL the bible is. Colorful stories ignorant and superstitious men made up to explain the mysetrious and frightening world around them! Stories passed down verbally and embellished from generation to generation for centuries. Stories that power-hungry leaders encouraged, because if the average person could be made to cower in fear and pay respect to a god, then they could be manipulated into allegiance by charlatans claiming to be the human representatives on earth of that man in the clouds! I suppose these religious leaders and their thirst for power are how the bible went from being A story to being THE story! Better obey me, better worship me, better pay me all your money and work my fields for free as a slave, or I'll tell the man in the clouds and he'll let your child be eaten by a lion, send you floods or volcanic eruptions, or better yet I'll have him burn you in hell for all eternity!

But if you obey me and do my will, surrender all your freedom to me, I'l tell the man in the clouds to let you spend eternity in heaven. A wonderful place where, after cowering in fear before me and obeying my every whim all your life, you get to spend all eternity cowering before an even more powerful man in the clouds and doing HIS will, worshipping him and adoring him and sacrificing all to him through all eternity! Won't that be wonderful? Won't that be paradise? Won't that be FUN!

I was raised without religion and I have no particular craving for it! No feeling that something's missing for not believing in ancient "man in the clouds" fairy tales! I was raised on scientific logic, and also on ancient Hawaiian beliefs on the beauty of the human form and the beauty of free and open epxression of the love and yes LUST felt between people who genuinely connect, whether that's a traditional hetero couple, a gay or lesbian couple, or in the case of Norm, Lola and me, a TRIPLE (which we like to say is one BETTER than a couple!)

I also wasn't raised on the western tradition that humans are a special creation of god or the ultimate end, aim, and purpose of evolution. We are just another rung on the evolutionary ladder, no better than any other and in some ways worse (No other living form kills so much, so indiscriminately, and for no reason (not for food like other species kill for), or pollutes and destroys its sourroundings as recklessly and passionately as we do. It is only our arrogance that makes us believe we're better than any other species! Maybe we're an evolutionary MISTAKE! A species hell-bent on destroying ourselves, our fellow liivng things, and our whole planet might WELL be a mistake! What would an alien life form visiting earth think of a species who hates members of our own species if their skin is a different color or their neligion isn't the same as ours...and hates with SUCH intensity, and SUCH violence! Would an alien think we are the dominant species and most evolved? Would they be as impressed as we are with our own pumped-up self-importance?

Yet, humans are also capable of beautiful paintings, sculpture, music. But do the Beethovens, the DaVincis of this world create enough beauty to make up for all the misery we inflict on humans and other species?

Still, I am happy being a human. getting to express myself in ways that so far we've found no other species capable of (except possibly whales who seem to have a "song" language). And I find the human body to be extrraordinarily beautiful--especially two particular human beings I love and adore and lust for and LOVE to see naked!

 

[ShavedGuy]

Very interesting. Would people feel a need for a god and prayer if they weren't raised on it?

People forget how the bible came to be. A bunch of ignorant, superstitious cavemen looked around at the world, bewildered and terrified. Why did the sun disappear every night and plunge them into total terrifying drakness? Why did lions eat their young? Why did fires burn their grass huts? Why were the stars visible and beautiful only at night? Why were there floods and earthquakes and volcanoes? Hmmm, there must be a very wise man sitting up in the clouds who has reasons for all these strange and terrifying things, but he is so wise we couldn't possibly understand why he does these things. He is so wise and so powerful, let's all worship him in a mix of awe and fear. Maybe if we worship him hard enough, he'll send us one less flood, spare one more child from being eaten by wild animals.

These stories got passed down verbally from generation to generation, and embellished, until finally about 300 A.D. (that's right, A.D., not B.C.) someone FINALLY thought to write it down (the oldest bible manuscipt found so far carbon-dates to only 300 A.D., not pre-Christian era as religions would like you to believe!). If that sounds far fetched, that a story was passed down and embellished for hundreds of years before anyone wrote it down, recall that Homer was the first to write down the story of the Trojan War, hundreds of years after it happened! And if you'll recall in Roots, the story of Kunte Kinte being abducted from the jungle while making a new drum was passed down verbally on BOTH sides of the Atlantic for 200 years before Alex Haley wrote it down!

But that's ALL the bible is. Colorful stories ignorant and superstitious men made up to explain the mysetrious and frightening world around them! Stories passed down verbally and embellished from generation to generation for centuries. Stories that power-hungry leaders encouraged, because if the average person could be made to cower in fear and pay respect to a god, then they could be manipulated into allegiance by charlatans claiming to be the human representatives on earth of that man in the clouds! I suppose these religious leaders and their thirst for power are how the bible went from being A story to being THE story! Better obey me, better worship me, better pay me all your money and work my fields for free as a slave, or I'll tell the man in the clouds and he'll let your child be eaten by a lion, send you floods or volcanic eruptions, or better yet I'll have him burn you in hell for all eternity!

But if you obey me and do my will, surrender all your freedom to me, I'l tell the man in the clouds to let you spend eternity in heaven. A wonderful place where, after cowering in fear before me and obeying my every whim all your life, you get to spend all eternity cowering before an even more powerful man in the clouds and doing HIS will, worshipping him and adoring him and sacrificing all to him through all eternity! Won't that be wonderful? Won't that be paradise? Won't that be FUN!

I was raised without religion and I have no particular craving for it! No feeling that something's missing for not believing in ancient "man in the clouds" fairy tales! I was raised on scientific logic, and also on ancient Hawaiian beliefs on the beauty of the human form and the beauty of free and open epxression of the love and yes LUST felktr between people who genuinely connect, whether that's a traditional hetero couple, a gay or lkesbian couple, or in the case of Norm, Lola and me, a TRIPLE (which we like to say is one BETTER than a couple!)

I also wasn't raised on the western tradition that humans are a special creation of god or the ultimate end, aim, and purpose of evolution. We are just another rung on the evolutionary ladder, no better than any other and in some ways worse (No other living form kills so much, so indiscriminately, and for no reason (not for food like other species kill for), or pollutes and destroys its sourroundings as recklessly and passionately as we do. It is only our arrogance that makes us believe we're better than any other species! Maybe we're an evolutionary MISTAKE! A species hell-bent on destroying ourselves, our fellow liivng things, and our whole planet might WELL be a mistake! What would an alien life form visiting earthh think of a species who hates members of our own species if their skin is a different color or their neligion isn't the same as ours...and hates with SUCH intensity, and SUCH violence! Would an alien think we are the dominant species and most evolved? Would they be as impressed as we are with our own pumped-up self-importance?

Still, I am happy being a human. getting to express myself in ways that so far we've found no other species capable of (except possibly whales who seem to have a "song" language). And I find the human body to be extrraordinarily beautiful--especially two particular human beings I love and adore and lust for and LOVE to see naked!

i couldnt agree more with what you have just said.......


Ohhhhh and just as a matter of interest. You know most people when they hear the word witchcraft they conjure up all kinds of terrible images of evil woman doing evil things.....well that's what most think.....but just read this...

This is what is written on page one of the Wiccan (witchcraft) "bible"

WICCA / WITCHCRAFT


Before time was, there was The One; The One was all, and all was The One. And the
vast expanse known as the universe was The One, all wise, all pervading, all
powerful, eternally changing.
And space moved. The One melded energy into twin forms, equal but opposite,
fashioning the Goddess and God from The One and of The One.

The Goddess and God stretched and gave thanks to The One, but darkness
surrounded them. They were alone, solitary save for The One.
So they formed energy into gases and gases into suns and planets and moons; They
sprinkled the universe with whirling globes and so all was given shape by the hands
of the Goddess and God.
Light arose and the sky was illuminated by a billion suns. The Goddess and God,
satisfied by their works, rejoiced and loved, and were one.

From their union sprang the seeds of all life, and the human race so that we might
achieve incarnation upon the Earth.
The Goddess chose the Moon as her symbol, and the God the Sun as his to remind the
inhabitants of Earth of their creators.
All are born, live, die and are reborn beneath the Moon and Sun; All things come to
pass there under, and all occurs with the blessings of The One, the Goddess and God,
as has been the way of existence since before time was.

 

[patford31769]

i couldnt agree more with what you have just said.......


Ohhhhh and just as a matter of interest. You know most people when they hear the word witchcraft they conjure up all kinds of terrible images of evil woman doing evil things.....well that's what most think.....but just read this...

This is what is written on page one of the Wiccan (witchcraft) "bible"

WICCA / WITCHCRAFT


Before time was, there was The One; The One was all, and all was The One. And the
vast expanse known as the universe was The One, all wise, all pervading, all
powerful, eternally changing.
And space moved. The One melded energy into twin forms, equal but opposite,
fashioning the Goddess and God from The One and of The One.

The Goddess and God stretched and gave thanks to The One, but darkness
surrounded them. They were alone, solitary save for The One.
So they formed energy into gases and gases into suns and planets and moons; They
sprinkled the universe with whirling globes and so all was given shape by the hands
of the Goddess and God.
Light arose and the sky was illuminated by a billion suns. The Goddess and God,
satisfied by their works, rejoiced and loved, and were one.

From their union sprang the seeds of all life, and the human race so that we might
achieve incarnation upon the Earth.
The Goddess chose the Moon as her symbol, and the God the Sun as his to remind the
inhabitants of Earth of their creators.
All are born, live, die and are reborn beneath the Moon and Sun; All things come to
pass there under, and all occurs with the blessings of The One, the Goddess and God,
as has been the way of existence since before time was.

That is so beautiful. Dr. Carl Sagan said the same thing: "We are all made of star stuff!" Was he a Wiccan?

Early Christian leaders were DETERMINED to Christianize all of Europe. But they found Wicca, a love of and worship of nature, to be deeply engrained in much of Europe. So they prortrayed Wiccans as witches with green faces and crooked noses and evil laughs, who cast evil spells and ate children! Better be a Christian or the evil witches will get you! Better report any witches to us so we can burn them alive ansd spare us all from their evil.

Funny, the Nazis used the same tactic 70 years ago. All Jews have crooked noses and are evil (I have a friend whose mom was a German Jew, her classmates in Nazi Germany refused to believe she was Jewish because she DIDN'T have a crooked nose like the Nazis said all Jews have!), Jews took all your money because they are greedy and that's why you're poor and misearble. Better become a Nazi so the Jews don't get you, and report them to us so we can gas them and avenge them for their evil.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Whether 4th-century Chrsitians or 20th-century Nazis.

Ever read the chronicles of the meeting at Worms, Germany, to found the European Christian church in the 4th century? This is a religion that claims to be about love thy neighbor as thyself. The notes of that meeting are filled with page after page of the early church leaders and founders calling each other such lovely names as "Son of a Whore". As in "I disagree with the statement of that Son of a Whore" which would usually get a reply about the other guy being as smart as a log or some such remark. The hypocrisy is hysterical!

By the way, did you know that in the middle ages "nose" was an often-used euphemism for the male organ? I recall reading a medieval Italian story in college about a man who was very proud of his long and magnificent nose, and women far and wide admired his magnificent long nose. The professor explained that using "nose" was a way for the author to be naughty in his tale without raising the wrath of Christian authorities, who were ignorant of the day's undergroiund street slang.

So when early Christian leaders said witches had ugly, crooked, twisty, revolting "noses," did they mean...?

Puts a whole new interpretation on the story of Pinnochio, too! The more he lied, the longer his "nose" grew! (Funny, I've known men like that! The bigger the "nose," the bigger the lie to get me into bed! And the LESS skill they seemed to have when they DID thrust that "big nose" into me!)

Patty

 

[patford31769]

Hi!

Since you guys all seemed to LOVE when I "rehearsed" a new dance act the last time....

When one of you guys pointed me to his web site where he's posing as a male stripper in business suit so secretaries can turn the tables on all those businessmen who hit on THEM...well, I loved that idea. So I went shopping for a new outfit and I came up with an idea for a new act: an ambitious secretary wearing a two-sizes-too-tight jacket with no blouse underneath...only a black bra!

So last night, I "rehearsed" my new act for Lola's adoring eyes...and for her camera, so YOU guys can see my new act, too!

There's 15 photos in this set. And not ONE glimpse of my pussy in the whole set, so maybe these will stick for a while!

Here's the first.

So, anyone wanna see MORE of my new act (or is that LESS?)



Patty