Shots fired again?

[gxnn]

It will make his trip to China more expensive and the Chinese guards more tired.

 

[Bray123]

Jokes aside, what struck me was the lazy way the venue was set up. The guy burst through security and ran across the lobby unhindered.

There should have been 'Disney-queue' switch-back barriers after security, so he had to run back and fore across the room several times. Then the agents could have taken shots like at a fairground range, or just waited for him at the exit point.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Where was the fist pump for the cameras?

 

[coati]

It was just another day of Amerikan chaos.

 

[eric_erosfan]

Where was the fist pump for the cameras?

Trump actually fell down trying to leave the stage. He will probably have old person bruising all over his body today.

 

[eric_erosfan]

News reports saying this guy had something like 34 guns and knives on him yet he was able to sprint past all these armed security. Something not adding up.

 

[Rebel5soul]

"Staged event" Fucking morons.

 

[eric_erosfan]

"Staged event" Fucking morons.

Well this patsy was not killed like he should have been. He never even got shot. He was probably not expecting that.

 

[73Seahawks]

News reports saying this guy had something like 34 guns and knives on him yet he was able to sprint past all these armed security. Something not adding up.

An uppity thug, who needs to be put into federal prison.

 

[eric_erosfan]

Imagine if this had been a dozen or more guys running through the security checkpoint.

 

[DeluxAuto]

 

[SebastianHolt]

Crazy

democrate a fucking crazy monsters that are prone to kill

 

[DeluxAuto]

"People keep screaming “staged” but none of you are actually walking through basic logic.

Let’s break this down point by point.

You’re judging his reaction like he was five feet away from the shooter. He wasn’t. The shooter was a full floor above and a floor away. Sound does not hit the same when you’re not in the same room or on the same level.

Direction, echo, and line of sight all change how fast your brain registers “this is a gun” versus “something just fell, something just popped, what the hell was that.” Also he’s a 79 year old dementia patient.

Normal humans do not react like Call of Duty NPCs. They freeze, they look around, they try to figure out what’s happening. Even people under protection have a split second of confusion when something unexpected happens in a complex environment.

If anything, uneven responses are more consistent with a real, chaotic event than some perfectly choreographed “everyone moves on the same beat” movie scene.

There wasn’t an immediate threat. Their reactions also showed that.

Sometimes an attacker is incompetent. Sometimes they’re disturbed, untrained, or panicking. That doesn’t magically turn a real attempt into a fake one.

No criminal record, highly educated, strong school, engineering background, working below his potential, building violent indie games on the side.

You don’t need a Tom Clancy plot. If you’re a guest in the hotel:

- You pass as a normal person with luggage
- You can bring disassembled parts in a suitcase

No magical bypass of metal detectors is required if your access route never went through the same screening as rally attendees. It’s ugly and it points to security failures, but “security failure” is not the same as “staged.”

People are seriously pointing to post‑event talking points as proof it was staged. Politicians and their teams *always* spin the event afterward. They turn everything into a narrative: bravery, resilience, destiny, whatever. That’s not unique to this. That’s politics.

Spinning the aftermath is not evidence the incident was planned. It’s evidence they know how to turn any moment into messaging. You see that every single time something big happens, on every side.

If you want to claim it’s staged, then logically, you’re claiming:

- Multiple agencies and layers of security were in on it
- The shooter was controlled, planted, or knowingly allowed to act
- Every insider and staffer has stayed perfectly silent
- Every piece of physical evidence, comms, and forensics is being faked or suppressed

That’s a massive, coordinated, leak‑proof operation. You don’t get to assert that level of conspiracy because you don’t like the guy on the stage, or because security moved weird, or because the audio doesn’t sound like you expected on a clipped cell phone video.

If you want to argue “staged,” bring receipts: documents, insider testimony, conflicting timelines, hard contradictions in evidence. Not “the vibes are off” and “I don’t like Trump.”

What actually makes the most sense.

The most boring, logical explanation that fits everything we’ve seen:

- A smart but deeply unstable guy with no record checks into the hotel.

- He brings in disassembled weapons in luggage.

- He assembles, moves into position above and off to the side.

- Shots fire from a floor above, sound is delayed and muted for people below.

- Human beings, including security, react imperfectly and unevenly. (Butler happened perfectly.)

- Politicians and media then spin the hell out of it after the fact for their own agendas.

Does that mean every detail is known and clean? No. Does that mean government is competent? Also no. It just means you don’t need a Hollywood‑level staged op to explain what we’re seeing.

Right now, the conspiracy crowd is taking normal human confusion, bad security, and political spin and stitching it into a mega‑plot. I’m not saying “trust the government.” I’m saying use your brain.

If you want to demand truth, start by demanding it from yourself: don’t call something “staged” when the only evidence you have is that you don’t like the person it happened to."

 

[DeluxAuto]

democrate a fucking crazy monsters that are prone to kill

Most mass shooters are white Christian males, idiot.

So are most serial killers.

 

[DeluxAuto]

12 days ago.

 

[TomTeacher19]

View attachment 2616573

The back side of the sign says,

"Thank you. Your check is in the mail"

 

[HisArpy]

I think Trump staged it just so he wouldn't have to do a speech.

Because we all know Trump just hates standing in the spotlight up in front of a crowd and talking for hours...

 

[eric_erosfan]

View attachment 2616638

View attachment 2616639

Is he wearing that Ironically or is he Mossad?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

"People keep screaming “staged” but none of you are actually walking through basic logic.

Let’s break this down point by point.

You’re judging his reaction like he was five feet away from the shooter. He wasn’t. The shooter was a full floor above and a floor away. Sound does not hit the same when you’re not in the same room or on the same level.

Direction, echo, and line of sight all change how fast your brain registers “this is a gun” versus “something just fell, something just popped, what the hell was that.” Also he’s a 79 year old dementia patient.

Normal humans do not react like Call of Duty NPCs. They freeze, they look around, they try to figure out what’s happening. Even people under protection have a split second of confusion when something unexpected happens in a complex environment.

If anything, uneven responses are more consistent with a real, chaotic event than some perfectly choreographed “everyone moves on the same beat” movie scene.

There wasn’t an immediate threat. Their reactions also showed that.

Sometimes an attacker is incompetent. Sometimes they’re disturbed, untrained, or panicking. That doesn’t magically turn a real attempt into a fake one.

No criminal record, highly educated, strong school, engineering background, working below his potential, building violent indie games on the side.

You don’t need a Tom Clancy plot. If you’re a guest in the hotel:

- You pass as a normal person with luggage
- You can bring disassembled parts in a suitcase

No magical bypass of metal detectors is required if your access route never went through the same screening as rally attendees. It’s ugly and it points to security failures, but “security failure” is not the same as “staged.”

People are seriously pointing to post‑event talking points as proof it was staged. Politicians and their teams *always* spin the event afterward. They turn everything into a narrative: bravery, resilience, destiny, whatever. That’s not unique to this. That’s politics.

Spinning the aftermath is not evidence the incident was planned. It’s evidence they know how to turn any moment into messaging. You see that every single time something big happens, on every side.

If you want to claim it’s staged, then logically, you’re claiming:

- Multiple agencies and layers of security were in on it
- The shooter was controlled, planted, or knowingly allowed to act
- Every insider and staffer has stayed perfectly silent
- Every piece of physical evidence, comms, and forensics is being faked or suppressed

That’s a massive, coordinated, leak‑proof operation. You don’t get to assert that level of conspiracy because you don’t like the guy on the stage, or because security moved weird, or because the audio doesn’t sound like you expected on a clipped cell phone video.

If you want to argue “staged,” bring receipts: documents, insider testimony, conflicting timelines, hard contradictions in evidence. Not “the vibes are off” and “I don’t like Trump.”

What actually makes the most sense.

The most boring, logical explanation that fits everything we’ve seen:

- A smart but deeply unstable guy with no record checks into the hotel.

- He brings in disassembled weapons in luggage.

- He assembles, moves into position above and off to the side.

- Shots fire from a floor above, sound is delayed and muted for people below.

- Human beings, including security, react imperfectly and unevenly. (Butler happened perfectly.)

- Politicians and media then spin the hell out of it after the fact for their own agendas.

Does that mean every detail is known and clean? No. Does that mean government is competent? Also no. It just means you don’t need a Hollywood‑level staged op to explain what we’re seeing.

Right now, the conspiracy crowd is taking normal human confusion, bad security, and political spin and stitching it into a mega‑plot. I’m not saying “trust the government.” I’m saying use your brain.

If you want to demand truth, start by demanding it from yourself: don’t call something “staged” when the only evidence you have is that you don’t like the person it happened to."

This explanation makes sense. It’s interesting to compare yesterday’s events to the shooting in Butler two years ago.

 

[SebastianHolt]

Right after it started widely being questioned why Trump never had them investigate the last "shots fired" at him, another one happens? Yeah that seems about right.

I can see you doing this! you have a very weak mind and a sissy

 

[Iluv17]

 

[latecomer91364]

What a bunch of fucked up leftard cunts...

 

[Lazaran]

"People keep screaming “staged” but none of you are actually walking through basic logic.

Let’s break this down point by point.

You’re judging his reaction like he was five feet away from the shooter. He wasn’t. The shooter was a full floor above and a floor away. Sound does not hit the same when you’re not in the same room or on the same level.

Direction, echo, and line of sight all change how fast your brain registers “this is a gun” versus “something just fell, something just popped, what the hell was that.” Also he’s a 79 year old dementia patient.

Normal humans do not react like Call of Duty NPCs. They freeze, they look around, they try to figure out what’s happening. Even people under protection have a split second of confusion when something unexpected happens in a complex environment.

If anything, uneven responses are more consistent with a real, chaotic event than some perfectly choreographed “everyone moves on the same beat” movie scene.

There wasn’t an immediate threat. Their reactions also showed that.

Sometimes an attacker is incompetent. Sometimes they’re disturbed, untrained, or panicking. That doesn’t magically turn a real attempt into a fake one.

No criminal record, highly educated, strong school, engineering background, working below his potential, building violent indie games on the side.

You don’t need a Tom Clancy plot. If you’re a guest in the hotel:

- You pass as a normal person with luggage
- You can bring disassembled parts in a suitcase

No magical bypass of metal detectors is required if your access route never went through the same screening as rally attendees. It’s ugly and it points to security failures, but “security failure” is not the same as “staged.”

People are seriously pointing to post‑event talking points as proof it was staged. Politicians and their teams *always* spin the event afterward. They turn everything into a narrative: bravery, resilience, destiny, whatever. That’s not unique to this. That’s politics.

Spinning the aftermath is not evidence the incident was planned. It’s evidence they know how to turn any moment into messaging. You see that every single time something big happens, on every side.

If you want to claim it’s staged, then logically, you’re claiming:

- Multiple agencies and layers of security were in on it
- The shooter was controlled, planted, or knowingly allowed to act
- Every insider and staffer has stayed perfectly silent
- Every piece of physical evidence, comms, and forensics is being faked or suppressed

That’s a massive, coordinated, leak‑proof operation. You don’t get to assert that level of conspiracy because you don’t like the guy on the stage, or because security moved weird, or because the audio doesn’t sound like you expected on a clipped cell phone video.

If you want to argue “staged,” bring receipts: documents, insider testimony, conflicting timelines, hard contradictions in evidence. Not “the vibes are off” and “I don’t like Trump.”

What actually makes the most sense.

The most boring, logical explanation that fits everything we’ve seen:

- A smart but deeply unstable guy with no record checks into the hotel.

- He brings in disassembled weapons in luggage.

- He assembles, moves into position above and off to the side.

- Shots fire from a floor above, sound is delayed and muted for people below.

- Human beings, including security, react imperfectly and unevenly. (Butler happened perfectly.)

- Politicians and media then spin the hell out of it after the fact for their own agendas.

Does that mean every detail is known and clean? No. Does that mean government is competent? Also no. It just means you don’t need a Hollywood‑level staged op to explain what we’re seeing.

Right now, the conspiracy crowd is taking normal human confusion, bad security, and political spin and stitching it into a mega‑plot. I’m not saying “trust the government.” I’m saying use your brain.

If you want to demand truth, start by demanding it from yourself: don’t call something “staged” when the only evidence you have is that you don’t like the person it happened to."

Um, a “staged” assassination ATTEMPT can come from various quarters that would require ZERO involvement from the entities you listed.

See: The Russians RECENTLY plotting a “staged” assassination ATTEMPT against Orban (apparently without the involvement of the Hungarian government, as they were the ones who sniffed out the plot), to help Orban & his party politically.



Any entity that wanted to help DonOld & the MAGAt republicans distract from the multiple issues / scandals plaguing them, and help them in the midterm elections (OR create a justification for canceling the midterms altogether), could be responsible for a “staged” assassination ATTEMPT.

It could be the Russians, it could be the Chinese, it could be the Israelis, etc, etc, etc.



Also:

There could have been an operative or team of U.S. facilitators involved in the assassination ATTEMPT who simply provided the gunman (patsy) with a layout of the venue and a perceived weak spot in security where he could make PARTIAL entry (while "conveniently" being caught perfectly on camera).



Now I am NOT saying that ^ is definitely what transpired, but it IS one POSSIBILITY.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[DeluxAuto]

What a bunch of fucked up leftard cunts...

What's with the extraneous ellipses, dimwit?

 

[LLCox]

I wondered why trump all the sudden decided to go to that dinner... to plug his dance hall/bunker. You see trump KNEW he would not be there long. Another trump shit show.