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So Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama...

This is what you do when there is no further way you could possibly defend your own party - oh, sorry - they're really libertarians or independents not Republicans!
 
Ishmael: In my personal opinion, no. Hillary Clinton is too pig-headed to want that. What the focus group liked and what Hillary Clinton likes are two different things.
 
Ishmael said:
You can't use Barak's middle name, it's rule. Democrats and glazed eyed followers can whisper the name in the privacy of their own bedrooms, but not you apostate. You're off the reservation and not subject to the protections of society.

Of course, one wonders where the rule came from. Maybe the man is ashamed of his middle name? I haven't heard that though. And I know of no court filing to change it. Maybe he'd prefer to be called 'Barrie', or 'Obie Wan(t)', but he's never expressed a preference. And that's a point too. <shrug>

Ishmael
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Actually I think it was Karl Rove who said not to use it.
 
zipman said:
Actually I think it was Karl Rove who said not to use it.
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Obviously the DNC as it was under the Clintons didn't get the memo. Fuckwit.

Just like it was AlGore in the 1998 democrat primaries that brought up Willy Horton. It's like, "We can dig up the dirt, but you're a racist/homophobe/mysoginyst/asshole to point it out."

Wellllllll, EXCUSE MEEEEEEEEEE.

Ishmael
 
Good morning zipman. The entire middle-name tactic is not a very good play and in my opinion is a good idea to distance themselves from it because it will only backfire. Again, the news had a video clip of a radio show pundit talking on John McCain's behalf, and John McCain quickly renounced the statements made. Needless to say, the pundit in turn, withdrew his support.
 
SigmaStigmata said:
Ishmael: In my personal opinion, no. Hillary Clinton is too pig-headed to want that. What the focus group liked and what Hillary Clinton likes are two different things.
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Right now, in my estimation, she's toast. She can't hold a candle to Obama.

Ishmael
 
lavender said:
This is what you do when there is no further way you could possibly defend your own party - oh, sorry - they're really libertarians or independents not Republicans!
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No Lavy, this is what you do for fun and to irritate others. You remember what fun was like don't you?

Ishmael
 
Ishmael: There is no doubt whatsoever Barack Obama is running a very good campaign. Super-delegates appear to be jumping ship from the Hillary Clinton camp. One super-delegate made the news about such defection. As to how many will defect is unknown to me.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
It was, and he explained why. I was going to let Ishmael and Co. wallow in their own ignorance, but you spoiled my fun.
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Sorry, my bad.

Do you want me to hold off mentioning that McCain has more class and integrity than they do as well?

The only vote their going to shore up by using his middle name is the busybody contingent.

I love the smell of desperation first thing in the morning. :D
 
Ishmael said:
Obviously the DNC as it was under the Clintons didn't get the memo. Fuckwit.

Just like it was AlGore in the 1998 democrat primaries that brought up Willy Horton. It's like, "We can dig up the dirt, but you're a racist/homophobe/mysoginyst/asshole to point it out."

Wellllllll, EXCUSE MEEEEEEEEEE.

Ishmael
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Fuckwit? I don't quite recall you crying like a baby when the Bush campaign intimated that McCain fathered an illegitimate black child back in 2000. But that's okay, I think they admitted he adopted the child after Bush won the election.

Say hi to Nader for me. :D
 
SigmaStigmata said:
Good morning zipman. The entire middle-name tactic is not a very good play and in my opinion is a good idea to distance themselves from it because it will only backfire. Again, the news had a video clip of a radio show pundit talking on John McCain's behalf, and John McCain quickly renounced the statements made. Needless to say, the pundit in turn, withdrew his support.
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Godd morning. Yes, I am well aware of all of that. It is one reason why I continue to think that McCain is a man of integrity.

I found it humorous that the pundit (Cunningham I believe) would pull his support over it. Here's the lesson, never chastise the rabid right wing.
 
The continued use of Obama's middle name is a deliberate and calculated attempt to deceive the American people.

Why should anyone be surprised that the Republicans are doing it? What else have they done for the last eight years?
 
zipman said:
Fuckwit? I don't quite recall you crying like a baby when the Bush campaign intimated that McCain fathered an illegitimate black child back in 2000. But that's okay, I think they admitted he adopted the child after Bush won the election.

Say hi to Nader for me. :D
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The tears are rolling down my cheeks Zip. I wish I had a webcam.

Ishmael
 
The Mutt said:
The continued use of Obama's middle name is a deliberate and calculated attempt to deceive the American people.

Why should anyone be surprised that the Republicans are doing it? What else have they done for the last eight years?
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how is using a persons LEGIT NAME

deception?

and

its the Clits that are doing it:rolleyes:
 
Guess who is pissed now? Again!

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Kenyan elders demand U.S. government apology for circulation of photo of Obama in Somali garb



Outrage

Ready for Obama Photo Rage?

"Kenyan elders want U.S. apology over Obama photo," by Noor Ali for Reuters

ISIOLO, Kenya (Reuters) - Kenyan elders demanded an apology from Washington on Thursday ahead of a planned protest over a controversial photo of U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama in traditional Somali dress.

[...]

The dispute has angered many in Kenya, especially ethnic Somalis from the northeast, who resent the implication that Obama did anything wrong during his visit.

Wajir residents plan to demonstrate after Friday prayers to show their support for the Illinois senator.

Mohamed Ibrahim, who attended one of two crisis meetings held in Wajir on Thursday by clan members who hosted Obama on his trip, said Washington must immediately make amends to them and especially to the elder pictured with him.

"The U.S. government must apologise to us as a clan and the old man," Ibrahim told Reuters by telephone. "We have been offended and we cannot afford to just watch and stay silent."

He said it was essential Clinton "clear her name" too.

The old man in question was retired chief Sheikh Mohamed Hassan, a senior elder who deserved great respect, local residents said.

"He was the right person to perform any such activity like dressing a visitor like Obama with traditional Somali clothes," said another Wajir community leader, Mukhtar Sheikh Nur.

"We give special treatment and respect to any visitor."

If there was no apology, the elders said, they would demand the expulsion of U.S. troops based near Garissa town....
 
Hey Mutty

Why dont we all call him

He Whose Name Shall Not Be Said:rolleyes:

Better?
 
if using a persons REAL name

is a problem

WE HAVE A PROBLEM

He Whose Name Shall Not Be Used:rolleyes:
 
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