Starting with slave's ass crack...

[Perempt]

So many messages here deal with ongoing issues after a Master and slave have started a relationship...what tools to use, what things to do, what protocols...

But I like to think how to start with a slave at the very start. Immediately after the 'hello'es', I have the slave undress and kneel on a couch, ass toward Me. There is a certain amount of humiliation in this, the ass-hole raised for inspection.


My first action is to pull apart the ass-cheeks, exposing the ass hole and genitals. The ass0hole is carefully probed...then pain can be given to the ass without muçh risk, after that the cunt (or cock and balls) can be manipulated, hurt, aroused, the cunt penetrated, the male scrotum bound....a whole array of directions to take.

Every Dom/me has his (or her) own way of getting started. This works for Me, simple as it is: getting immediately intimate, degrading, sadistic...

 

[catalina_francisco]

Every Dom/me has his (or her) own way of getting started. This works for Me, simple as it is: getting immediately intimate, degrading, sadistic...

Ah, then why is it nearly all of them with the very, very rare exception do exactly as you described for a starter session, both in RL and fiction?

Catalina

 

[Miss Trickery]

Every Dom/me has his (or her) own way of getting started. This works for Me, simple as it is: getting immediately intimate, degrading, sadistic...

Don't forget, every sub (pyl) doesn't need to surrender to your will unless they want to. I prefer to start a D/s relationship all vanilla. Hang out, watch a movie, grab something to eat... If someone said, "ok kneel on the couch, turn around, raise your ass..." I'd laugh, kick 'em in the jaw and proceed to beat their unconcious ass with my stilettos. hehe.

 

[FLButtSlut]

I'm with you Miss Trickery! I am making the assumption that the OP was talking about the time when the two had agreed to move forward with the relationship, at which time, that would not be inappropriate.

However, if I were to meet someone for the first time and they expected me to do that, they had better hope they are wearing some protective gear! I may be submissive to a partner, but I am certainly capable of taking care of myself around those who aren't.

 

[shy slave]

So many messages here deal with ongoing issues after a Master and slave have started a relationship...what tools to use, what things to do, what protocols...

But I like to think how to start with a slave at the very start. Immediately after the 'hello'es', I have the slave undress and kneel on a couch, ass toward Me. There is a certain amount of humiliation in this, the ass-hole raised for inspection.


My first action is to pull apart the ass-cheeks, exposing the ass hole and genitals. The ass0hole is carefully probed...then pain can be given to the ass without muçh risk, after that the cunt (or cock and balls) can be manipulated, hurt, aroused, the cunt penetrated, the male scrotum bound....a whole array of directions to take.

Every Dom/me has his (or her) own way of getting started. This works for Me, simple as it is: getting immediately intimate, degrading, sadistic...

Please note this rare occasion....

I am speechless

 

[h_i_s]

Please note this rare occasion....

I am speechless

As was i. i walked away from this thread twice without posting.

Something about the wording, the description ... just doesn't sit right with me. And i DID play at the very first meeting face to face with my Master.

i think my problem with Perempt's post is the no mentioning of having met face to face before, coupled with no mention of the offering of submission. Plus, i can't get my head around being anyone's slave on first meeting ... i guess, due to my own belief of exactly what the differences are between a submissive vs a slave ...

As a slave, i have no safe word & don't need one because i know my Master well, trust Him well, and He knows me well and trusts me well enough that we don't need words to signal my need to stop. No matter how 'dirty' we play, respect is always present & understood. Plus, He now decides my limits ... meaning i don't get to opt out of a certain type of play if it isn't 'my thing'. 'No', is not an option.

i surely could not offer such trust in someone i do not know/who does not know me. i wouldn't allow myself to be given pain, nor be 'hurt' nor degraded under those circumstances. i think my safe word in that case would be, "You touch me even once, i'll call the fucking cops.". heh ...

 

[His_pita]

But I like to think how to start with a slave at the very start. Immediately after the 'hello'es', I have the slave undress and kneel on a couch, ass toward Me. There is a certain amount of humiliation in this, the ass-hole raised for inspection.

This is the problem here that I don't like and I think some others don't either. You say at the very start and immediately after the hello'es'. That just strikes me as wrong. It lacks any caring or sensitivity to a new relationship.

As for the humiliation, that would only work if the slave wanted that sort of treatment. My Dom knows that humiliation is the wrong approach for me due to my past experiences.

I suppose if that works for you and your slave is happy and it’s consensual then good. I am just very happy that even though I will be in a D/s relationship our first meeting will be about our love and finally being alone together. Ass inspections can happen another day.

 

[catalina_francisco]

LOL, our first meeting was one of the longest and most intense scenes I think we have ever done......I passed inspection and was more than a deep shade of red within a couple of hours....and I was more than happy to be married to him 2 weeks later as previously arranged!!

Catalina

 

[Private_Label]

So many messages here deal with ongoing issues after a Master and slave have started a relationship...what tools to use, what things to do, what protocols...

But I like to think how to start with a slave at the very start. Immediately after the 'hello'es', I have the slave undress and kneel on a couch, ass toward Me. There is a certain amount of humiliation in this, the ass-hole raised for inspection.


My first action is to pull apart the ass-cheeks, exposing the ass hole and genitals. The ass0hole is carefully probed...then pain can be given to the ass without muçh risk, after that the cunt (or cock and balls) can be manipulated, hurt, aroused, the cunt penetrated, the male scrotum bound....a whole array of directions to take.

Every Dom/me has his (or her) own way of getting started. This works for Me, simple as it is: getting immediately intimate, degrading, sadistic...

Um, then forgive me if I don't immediately want you as my master. You have no mention of safewords, discussion of limits... safe calls...

Thank you but I don't think I want to play with you.

 

[Master Sensei]

When I read things like this I can't help but wonder if the author has ever actually played with a real girl. People like this seem to be trying too hard to impress.

 

[Perempt]

diff'rnt strokes

It is good to see differences of opinions, even the resoponse that issued from the 'speechless' reader.

I should sday that anyone meeting me for a bdsm date would have been told what to expect. I am exceediungly consual, and I believe in informed consent. Generally, the meeting would have followed some period of getting-acquainted, usually weeks; but I have had some such meetings just hours after meeting.

I allow safeword, so it would be superfluous to beat me unconscious or call the cops...nonetheless, that kind of reaction can be handled, and has the advantage of ending the relationship right away, which saves time and heartache later on. (To the one who says she doesn't need a safeword: I am familiar with the kind or relationship where a safeword is seldom used, but with me, it is always available to the sub/slave....no activity on earth is immune from mistakes, and it is the sub's duty as well as mine to avoid bad and unintended consequences if an action starts to miscarry (I am stunned myself with Dom/mes and subs speak of using electricity, flame, breathplay, cutting as if the generally simpleminded safety rules outlined on bdsm sites
can remove all risk, mechanical rules generally that take little account of physiology and medical condition....assuming confident knowledge of a sub's physical condition that would take an internist and several thousand dollars of medical tests to make that confidence legitimate.) Nothing that I described doing in a first session is high risk.

As to the comment that all dom/mes start their sessions as I described, I respectfully disagree...I have practiced as a dom for three decades, and have observed wide differences in practice: with some it is costumes, with others, protocols, with others a concentration on specific fetishes (latex, footplay, roleplay, spanking, etc, etc, etc). Some go very gradual, some throw the sub into deep water right off the bat (on that gradient, I am on the more patient side, though I do start, as I outlined, with immediate mild pain and humiliation.)

(BTW, I do understand that there is a difference between subs and slaves, and that sometimes (but not always) a person starts as a sub, and moves to slave.

I appreciate everyone's thoughts.

 

[catalina_francisco]

As to the comment that all dom/mes start their sessions as I described, I respectfully disagree...

Must have been mixing with different people then. Without exception, when I was looking, I was told by each Dom (and all from various countries) this is how it would begin, and found it to be so...and then going from threads on the topic here including your own, it seems it is the popular choice for more than a few. ....and don't get me onto fiction which popularises it very much, even Story of O which is likely where many get their inspiration.

Catalina

 

[tempsbrat]

This is an interesting thread. I started with my Mistress online, and had never done active cyber. She and i had talked quite a bit before doing any play, and she requested that I get clothes pins, rubberbands, and a butt plug. During our first scene she had me light a candle, get my toothpaste and put the pins by the candle. She had me take a photo of them, and send the photo immediately to her. This was to ensure I was doing what she said.

Our first scene dealt with breast pain and using 5 pins on each breast and the wax from the candle.... as well as some sexual play. This introduced me to the pain she enjoys giving. She had me look at myself in the mirror often in those early days. On our first real time meeting we did not do heavy D/s but mild and it wasn't until our second meeting / weekend that we got into heavy D/s. We had been together online though for some 6 months and knew each other well. I learned to crave the pain, to be used, and taken at Her whims, to obey her orders even at work, and to send her photos of such events.

I cannot tell you how eager I am to have her move down here. It is amazing what can be learned online, how one can prepare their pyl for the type of play they like, and to really gain their submission. There is always though the true proof in the real time. Do you really connect, and submit or control the person.

In my case the answer is a definate yes.

 

[Netzach]

Ugh, they should be so lucky I'm interested in their asscrack.

 

[Perempt]

exactly the same

let's see

I said that on my first session with a slave I would have her undress, examine her holes, give her some pain and a bit of penetration...certainly not a remarkable menu, and, in fact, my point was simplicity, an exercise to give her an idea of what to expect from me.

If that's exactly what everyone does, we have mixed with different folk. Of course, you're the best source about your own experience, but those I have known over the years have had widely different first expereiences. The first experiences related to me related to me have involved prescribed dress, elaborate toys, or 'artistic' restraint, negotiation, trying out various 'toys', roleplay, ritual, learning prescribed modes of address. public humiliation, fetishes involving spanking, rubber, enema gear and on and on...a similar range of activites to what you would find in today's bulletin menu at this site, the forums at bondage .com and so forth.
In fiction, I believe that O's young man just beat her during sex, which she found she welcomed, before he gave her to Sir Stephen for training at the Chateau...in Salammanca's work, the new slave was initiated ritually, brought to a church-like structure where she was stripped, had to kiss the chief administrator's ass, was fastened to an altar and was beaten brutally by the entire congregation...in deBerg's 'Image' the new slave was taken in skirt without panties to the Tuileries, where, behind a tree, the master pinned a rose on her cuntlips by the thorns, arranging and re-arranging the placement until it was esthetically pleasing, while the bleeding girl held still....in Harriet Daimler's 'The Woman Thing' the heroine's lover tied her to a chair and then transformed himself into the demon Toledo (in a memorable scene.)


And that variety is fine with me; I do not think my simple practices are the only way to Dom or sub...variety is fine, but we all know what we like.



On the other hand, other first experiences related by subs have involved only talk...and then more talk at the second and the third meeting etc, etc.
How often do you hear a sub say, after months of a relationship, that they don't know what's expected. That's not a good thing either.

So my story is a simple one, clear, quite ordinary, a little pain a little shame, a start. I am enjoying hearing what others have done at the beginning....

 

[catalina_francisco]

Let's see if I can jog my memory banks tonight of all nights....our particular first night together, which was the first meeting as well, began with a public collaring in the center of the international terminal, though it was the fiery, passionate kiss and embrace which seemed to interest more than a few...love that Spanish passion. That was followed by my driving an hour, all the while with him fondling me or having me fondle him through clothing while I drove, to where we were to stay in a highrise apartment overlooking the water, ......and decorated in his favourite colours which was an added and unexpected bonus. Then we had a cool drink while covering the basics of safewording and what it would mean and when it would be expected, as well as checking my comfort level with the way things were going.....I was.

I had selected some good music and had it ready to go, candle light, and a comfy position for him to sit if he wished. He then forced me to my knees and forced my mouth onto his raging hard on ....when he had enough of that for then, he pulled me up and began with a little pain, some teasing, though not a lot, ....after a bit he undressed me bit by bit, with comments and demands here and there along the way, and eventually checked his property slowly from head to toe. That was followed by some bondage and more pain, which then later progressed to the bedroom where he used much heavier bondage. He played sexually with me for awhile, interspersed with pain. He then released me, rubbed my limbs, offered me a drink....then tied me to the bed and beat me hard with flogger, canes, crops, and whip, took some pics, turned me onto my back and retied me and flogged and caned my breasts and legs, took more pics.

He untied my legs....we had fantastic sex where he took what he wanted from all 3 holes, then had me clean his cock with my mouth.....he untied the rest and took me to the bathroom where he administered an enema, which he photographed as well. He then led me to the living room where he pushed me to the floor and bound my wrists again and gave me a beating until my back and butt was blazing red and raised welts, pulled me roughly to my feet and threw me face down over the back of a sofa and fucked my arse without any nice preparations or lube, and when he was finished followed by more caning, more bondage, more oral on him, then serving him a cold drink and had me model some of my clothes so he could decide what I could and could not keep and wear from then on, with verbal reproof for producing anything he did not like.....another beating, some more sex.....and several hours later some sleep for a short time until we started again. We didn't go outside for about 2 days, nor had much sleep....lucky I bought some food for us!! I think it was our first time out of the apartment he had me wear a rope bra and body hraness under my clothing which made my nipples and breasts very noticeable and outstanding under the thin material of my fitting top. Then 2 weeks later, as soon as was legally possible, we married.

Catalina

 

[Kajira Callista]

meow

 

[graceanne]

meow

Ooooh, look at the pretty little kitty. *pets*

 

[Kajira Callista]

Ooooh, look at the pretty little kitty. *pets*

purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Miss Diva]

Let's see if I can jog my memory banks tonight of all nights....our particular first night together, which was the first meeting as well, began with a public collaring in the center of the international terminal, though it was the fiery, passionate kiss and embrace which seemed to interest more than a few...love that Spanish passion. That was followed by my driving an hour, all the while with him fondling me or having me fondle him through clothing while I drove, to where we were to stay in a highrise apartment overlooking the water, ......and decorated in his favourite colours which was an added and unexpected bonus. Then we had a cool drink while covering the basics of safewording and what it would mean and when it would be expected, as well as checking my comfort level with the way things were going.....I was.

I had selected some good music and had it ready to go, candle light, and a comfy position for him to sit if he wished. He then forced me to my knees and forced my mouth onto his raging hard on ....when he had enough of that for then, he pulled me up and began with a little pain, some teasing, though not a lot, ....after a bit he undressed me bit by bit, with comments and demands here and there along the way, and eventually checked his property slowly from head to toe. That was followed by some bondage and more pain, which then later progressed to the bedroom where he used much heavier bondage. He played sexually with me for awhile, interspersed with pain. He then released me, rubbed my limbs, offered me a drink....then tied me to the bed and beat me hard with flogger, canes, crops, and whip, took some pics, turned me onto my back and retied me and flogged and caned my breasts and legs, took more pics.

He untied my legs....we had fantastic sex where he took what he wanted from all 3 holes, then had me clean his cock with my mouth.....he untied the rest and took me to the bathroom where he administered an enema, which he photographed as well. He then led me to the living room where he pushed me to the floor and bound my wrists again and gave me a beating until my back and butt was blazing red and raised welts, pulled me roughly to my feet and threw me face down over the back of a sofa and fucked my arse without any nice preparations or lube, and when he was finished followed by more caning, more bondage, more oral on him, then serving him a cold drink and had me model some of my clothes so he could decide what I could and could not keep and wear from then on, with verbal reproof for producing anything he did not like.....another beating, some more sex.....and several hours later some sleep for a short time until we started again. We didn't go outside for about 2 days, nor had much sleep....lucky I bought some food for us!! I think it was our first time out of the apartment he had me wear a rope bra and body hraness under my clothing which made my nipples and breasts very noticeable and outstanding under the thin material of my fitting top. Then 2 weeks later, as soon as was legally possible, we married.

Catalina

How long had you and Francisco been talking prior to the meeting?

 

[catalina_francisco]

How long had you and Francisco been talking prior to the meeting?

Almost 4 months.......often online for 8-16 hours a day chatting, as well as a few phone calls. He decided marriage was a good idea after 2 months which was out of character for both of us as we are usually safe and methodical creatures in such things, and he was the proverbial bachelor for life figure. LOL, I hear he yelled 'never getting married' the most and loudest on boys nights out so it was little wonder everyone he knew thought he had lost his marbles when he said he was off to Oz to marry a woman he had never met!! 3+ years later, they are amazed it all worked out and we are so happy and blissfully in love and lust, more so with each passing year.

Catalina

 

[Leolover711]

I find it hard to believe that so many, many of whom I deeply care for and respect, would take so much time to intellectualize the D/s realtionship.

Why not just accept what is and be aware of what is not happening and go with the flow. If I thought about every step blah blah blah before hand, I am certain of one thing, I would lose My erection and interest.

I have had scenes that were incredibly hot andextreme with partners only just met and I have had long slow simmering relationships that when finally consummated were like rocket ships exploding from MY cock straight to the moon!

My advice, and then I'll stop using all the oxygen, is to relax and enjoy. You'll know if its right or not when it happens.

May your life be filled with abundance

 

[Master Sensei]

I find it hard to believe that so many, many of whom I deeply care for and respect, would take so much time to intellectualize the D/s realtionship.

And with all due respect to you, I can see why many of us attempt that very thing.

"An unexamined life is not worth living." -- Socrates

 

[Perempt]

WOW, catalina...

What a start you had with your Man!

The doing of a scene is much richer than any bare-bones plan! Thanks for sharing that memory so vividly, and for the great writing!

 

[catalina_francisco]

What a start you had with your Man!

The doing of a scene is much richer than any bare-bones plan! Thanks for sharing that memory so vividly, and for the great writing!

Thanks..... It just gets better and better.

Catalina