State Run, Taxpayer Funded, News Service.

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Republicans call deductible business expenses "subsidies?" Really?

The only thing he is doing is flipping his lid to try and justify what everyone is aware that NPR leans hard left and it is subsidized (that means someone writes a big, fat, on budget check to them) by all taxpayers.

The laugh is that CPB was started by Lyndon Johnson exactly for the reasons Pence did what he did. It has never strayed from its mission of acting as a watchdog over Republican abuses and an apologist for Democrat abuses.

I gave you a list of NPR programs, I'm still waiting to hear which of those are "hard left". It's the Jazz program isn't it?

I don't expect an actual answer though. I doubt you even listen to NPR and are forming "your opinion" based on what you're told by the "right".

 

[Paendragon]

At least his idea is open about it being a media outlet that is designed to get his administration's point of view out and available, unfiltered by the news outlets. They are still free to take any and all of that material, just as they can any press release, and rebut it, chop it, edit it, and report the facts as they see them and express whatever opinion they wish.

I get that it sounds Orwellian, and if it was in lieu of, not in competition with, private news you would have a very valid point. Since they are not going to be able to crowd out other outlets, their effectiveness at controlling the story will be limited.

Given that the technology exists for any government agency (all of whom have press departments) to present themselves with good lighting and sound, it is surprising that more do not. We are long past the time when the only way a person or entity could hope to influence the press was a faxed press release, and hope they are lazy enough on a slow news day to simply print it as is.

Think about it like this.

Instead of a press release, and a Q and A with the White House Press Secretary (worst job in the world, BTW), Obama created a taxpayer funded newspaper with only his handpicked reporters writing the stories. Then they just send that out for the regular press to comment on.

Sounds like a terrible idea, right? Goverment should not become a press, or what is the point of freedom of press as written in the constitution?

 

[Que]

They certainly call eliminating deductions or even allowing temporary reductions to expire raising taxes. I honestly see no difference here other than you want this really bad.

I don't give two shits what CPB did and I have zero problems with this, go scroll up I was the first person wonder what the big deal with this was.

Again, not taking MORE money is NOT writing a check. Not raising taxes is not writing a check. A subsidy is taking actual money and writing a check. Money that you took from one person and giving it to another. Not even close to analogous.

 

[Que]

Think about it like this.

Instead of a press release, and a Q and A with the White House Press Secretary (worst job in the world, BTW), Obama created a taxpayer funded newspaper with only his handpicked reporters writing the stories. Then they just send that out for the regular press to comment on.

Sounds like a terrible idea, right? Government should not become a press, or what is the point of freedom of press as written in the constitution?

That more or less is how the white house does it. You write somewhat close to what we want if you want to be included in press conferences and press junkets.

The White does carefully manage its image. They disallow cameras and control the video feed and pictures that are made available to the press pool.

Freedom of the press does not mean that the State cannot attempt to propagandize. They always have, it is just higher tech now.

I have posted previously the chart of how many people in the Obama White House have relatives (often spouses) that are in key decision making roles at several of the major networks.

Obama's Chief flak is Benjamin Rhodes. His brother, David Rhodes is the head of the CBS news department.

 

[Que]

I gave you a list of NPR programs, I'm still waiting to hear which of those are "hard left". It's the Jazz program isn't it?

I don't expect an actual answer though. I doubt you even listen to NPR and are forming "your opinion" based on what you're told by the "right".

I asked you for any that leaned conservative.

Fail.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Think about it like this.

Instead of a press release, and a Q and A with the White House Press Secretary (worst job in the world, BTW), Obama created a taxpayer funded newspaper with only his handpicked reporters writing the stories. Then they just send that out for the regular press to comment on.

Sounds like a terrible idea, right? Goverment should not become a press, or what is the point of freedom of press as written in the constitution?

No, it doesn't sound like a terrible idea. I have zero problem with the government becoming a press, the point of freedom of press is to prevent the suppression of information. Nothing more, nothing less. The government delivering the news has zero impact on this. Hell even if the only thing that happened was getting government getting people to process their information into simpler form for the majority of us we'd be far, far better off.

But again, nope, doesn't sound bad at all.

Again, not taking MORE money is NOT writing a check. Not raising taxes is not writing a check. A subsidy is taking actual money and writing a check. Money that you took from one person and giving it to another. Not even close to analogous.

Like I said, semantics. I assume you're cool with ACA is a fee not a tax? Or in this case intentionally not taking money. The question is whether the government is aware of it and who it is because if they are it's the exact same thing.

 

[phrodeau]

I gave you a list of NPR programs, I'm still waiting to hear which of those are "hard left". It's the Jazz program isn't it?

I don't expect an actual answer though. I doubt you even listen to NPR and are forming "your opinion" based on what you're told by the "right".

Wait, wait, don't tell me! I'm sure I can get the answer.

 

[Disgustipated]

Representatives of the MSM are already getting talking points from the regime.

There's no such thing as the MSM, paranoid android.

 

[Que]

There's no such thing as the MSM, paranoid android.

#Dummy

 

[KingOrfeo]

I shit you not.

Link

Link to CNN

Wait, so, this is something like the BBC, only it's run by . . . the State of Indiana?

This will not end well.

 

[Paendragon]

That more or less is how the white house does it. You write somewhat close to what we want if you want to be included in press conferences and press junkets.

The White does carefully manage its image. They disallow cameras and control the video feed and pictures that are made available to the press pool.

Freedom of the press does not mean that the State cannot attempt to propagandize. They always have, it is just higher tech now.

I have posted previously the chart of how many people in the Obama White House have relatives (often spouses) that are in key decision making roles at several of the major networks.

Obama's Chief flak is Benjamin Rhodes. His brother, David Rhodes is the head of the CBS news department.

That's not how they do it. Otherwise Fox would never see the inside of a Presidential press conference. And yes, I'm aware of how progressively closed off the white house has become over the past 14-years as two successive administrations have abused national security or someother sort of nonsense to limit coverage. I've spoken out about it on Lit previously, I believe.

But it's still a far cry from a government run news organization. You wouldn't even have to have pressers anymore.

"Here's the interview in the White House Times. Feel free to run it in it's entirety. No other comments will be given. There will, however, be a follow-up interview next week. In the White House Times."

 

[Sean Renaud]

They allow Fox in, they have no obligation to do so.

 

[Paendragon]

Wait, so, this is something like the BBC, only it's run by . . . the State of Indiana?

This will not end well.

I think our government already has too much influence on media, without merging the two.

 

[Disgustipated]

#Dummy

You can get your news from a multitude of outlets, dipshit. Your hero calls the MSM CNN, NBC, etc. That's why you clowns go to Breitbart and Drudge for all your opinions.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I think our government already has too much influence on media, without merging the two.

In what way?

 

[Que]

You can get your news from a multitude of outlets, dipshit. Your hero calls the MSM CNN, NBC, etc. That's why you clowns go to Breitbart and Drudge for all your opinions.

That might be the most wordy explanation I have ever seen you type.

#StillaDummy

 

[Disgustipated]

That might be the most wordy explanation I have ever seen you type.

#StillaDummy

You replied before I even hit submit. You must be an MSM member.

 

[Que]

We do not have a watchdog press:

 

[Que]

You replied before I even hit submit. You must be an MSM member.

You think it would take me more than two minutes to digest and respond to your post?

#Dummy

 

[Paendragon]

They allow Fox in, they have no obligation to do so.

Proving my point that that is not how the White House Pressers are run. It's not just Fox, but the WSJ, Washington Times, etc., are all rotated in by the White House Correspondents Association (not the white house staff as many believe).

 

[Sean Renaud]

That chain doesn't really prove a whole lot of anything.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

How about we properly fund PBS?

 

[Disgustipated]

That chain doesn't really prove a whole lot of anything.

That's why Q-Bert posted it.

 

[Paendragon]

We do not have a watchdog press:

I don't see what that proves. I've worked on two Republican campaigns in my lifetime, and I'm married to a Democrat. None of which precludes me from getting a job in media and being unbiased.

Now if you showed me actual articles written by those people where they ignored evidence or lied to push their political agenda, then you'd have something.

 

[Paendragon]

In what way?

The FCC alone is way too big, and has way too much influence on media.