Statehood for Puerto Rico

[Politruk]

^^^
What a friggin' dunce.

You are a prime example of the mental inferiority of conservatives.

 

[Rightguide]

You are a prime example of the mental inferiority of conservatives.

You're an example of an uneducated dipshit ignorant both of the law and history.

 

[Politruk]

You're an example of an uneducated dipshit ignorant both of the law and history.

I know a LOT more than you do about law and about history. You do not have the brains to earn a law degree.

 

[Politruk]

Statehood for PR -- and for DC -- will become an actual current issue if the Dems flip the House in November.

 

[Bray123]

I know a LOT more than you do about law and about history. You do not have the brains to earn a law degree.

The evidence from this board is that the bar(!) is not too high.

 

[Rightguide]

I know a LOT more than you do about law and about history. You do not have the brains to earn a law degree.

I know what you think and I know what you think you know. You remind me of Charles da Gama who thought he could find a shortcut to India by sailing West. You thought you could find a shortcut to knowledge by sailing left and we, the smart people in the World, all know how that is going to work out. We refer to it as the "dust bin of history."

 

[Politruk]

You remind me of Charles da Gama who thought he could find a shortcut to India by sailing West.

That was Columbus. Da Gama -- Vasco, not Charles -- sailed south and east, and he did get to India.

The dustbin of history is where the Trump movement is headed.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I know what you think and I know what you think you know. You remind me of Charles da Gama who thought he could find a shortcut to India by sailing West. You thought you could find a shortcut to knowledge by sailing left and we, the smart people in the World, all know how that is going to work out. We refer to it as the "dust bin of history."

Vasco da Gama did reach India by sailing west from Europe. This allowed him to catch the trade winds and then swing south to ride the anti-trades past the Cape of Good Hope.

That's why Brazilians speak Portuguese instead of Spanish.

 

[SevMax2]

DC Statehood is even more urgent, because of that old business of taxation without representation. District residents have to pay taxes to the federal government, but have no Senators and no voting representatives in the House. They have only a non-voting delegate. Puerto Rico, on the other hand, doesn't have representation, but it also doesn't pay federal taxes. I would love to see them become a state, anyway. It would be nice to see such a thing happen, though we'd have to expand the Senate to 104 seats and probably add districts to the U.S. House of Representatives. They would provide another voice in our government for sure. Also, the Fourteenth Amendment needs to start applying to American Samoa like the rest of our territories.

 

[Politruk]

Puerto Rico, on the other hand, doesn't have representation, but it also doesn't pay federal taxes.

Curiously, they do not seem to want statehood any less for that reason. Every time they have a referendum on statehood, the ayes have it overwhelmingly.

 

[Pad_Foot]

If DC didn’t deserve reps, perhaps Wyoming should merge along with Vermont to their neighbors. Back to 48 states! We have a flag for 48

 

[Rightguide]

Vasco da Gama did reach India by sailing west from Europe. This allowed him to catch the trade winds and then swing south to ride the anti-trades past the Cape of Good Hope.

That's why Brazilians speak Portuguese instead of Spanish.

Now outline what it cost him.

 

[Politruk]

Now outline what it cost him.

Not much. He founded a rich trade empire and the king made him a count.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Now outline what it cost him.

Da Gama’s first voyage to India cost him two ships and the lives of many sailors, but the clever route he discovered—sailing west, then turning back east at the tip of South America was the basis of the vastly portable Portuguese spice trade for generations.

 

[Politruk]

You know, I'm not sure Trump understands even now that PR is U.S. territory and its people are citizens.

 

[butters]

No one has yet given any reason why statehood for PR would be a bad idea.

because it's not

 

[JoePepsiCo]

You are a worthless animal.

But at least I'm not a cow!


MOOO000ooo...

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Which penis won the final measurement?

 

[JoePepsiCo]

because it's not

Go back to your own fucking island and liberate them from tyranny.

 

[Politruk]

I mean, one might make a case that a State of PR, entitled to the full range of federal programs, would cost the USG more money than it brings in tax revenue -- it is a very poor island. But nobody here who is anti-statehood has even tried that route -- their opposition appears to be more . . . visceral.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

I've seen it repeatedly pointed out that they only want to be a state to suck up the bennies.

That's nothing new; doesn't really even need to be stated.

It's not like they're under invasion threat...

 

[Politruk]

50,000 attend rally.

In news from Puerto Rico, an estimated 50,000 people attended a rally Sunday organized by the center-left coalition known as “Alianza,” or Alliance, ahead of Tuesday’s election. The third-party coalition has gained momentum with Puerto Rican voters disaffected with the two main parties over corruption scandals, austerity policies and the disastrous privatization of the electrical grid. Alianza’s gubernatorial candidate Juan Dalmau addressed the crowd.

Juan Dalmau: “As a people, during the last 55 years we’ve suffered the consequences of the bipartisan red and blue, of a leadership which betrayed the faith that many Puerto Ricans had on them. Our moment to reclaim this country has arrived, to reclaim the government as ours.”

This is Puerto Rican music superstar Bad Bunny, who performed at the event.

Bad Bunny: “In two days, whether there’s thunder, rain or lightning, nothing will stop us from making history. I will never forget how the government abandoned us during the hurricane. This November 5th, this Tuesday, November 5th, we are going to be the storm, and there’s nobody who can save them.”

Bad Bunny and other Puerto Rican celebrities recently threw their support behind Kamala Harris after a conservative comic at a Trump rally called Puerto Rico an “island of garbage.”

 

[Politruk]

Trump wants U.S. statehood for Canada.

How about, Puerto Rico first?! They've actually asked!

 

[Monsterbudca]

What about Guam and Virgin Islands?

And why doesn’t anyone talk about Carolina Reunification?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

For voting and representation, DC residents probably ought to be considered residents of Maryland. Two senators for a city would be a bit much, but there’s no reason why they couldn’t vote for President and Senators as Marylanders and have House of Representatives districts too.

DC’s population is as big or bigger than some states.