Stop The Violence!

plasticman33

The point is that Pacifist just repeats words he hears but has no idea what they mean.

Kind of like a parrot.
 
One other thing....

I hope you are never in a position of responsibility over the welfare of other people.
 
Them Americans, you gotta love their bloodlust. Or...?
It's time to stop the killing. Don't you see that!
 
Oil?

Pacifist said:
Please. CNN - truthmachine? Chomsky ordinated. The American government caring about the Iraqi people? No, the oil, is the correct answer. The free world? I hope you're well aware of the fact that your freedom depends on others unfreedom. Many of which are living in your own country. But go ahead, embrace poverty!
I'm against numerous things my country's governments do, and I've appreciated the sanctuary that Sweden gave US deserters during the Vietnam War. But know this: Saddam Hussein killed more than a million people, mostly as an American client, long before the Gulf War. He had nerve gased his own people (no, wait, they were Kurdish Iraqis, so I guess he didn't see it that way). Assuming that you're very young, perhaps that was too long ago, but you have NO EXCUSE not to know the crimes of Milosevic and Serbia, which drove so many refugees to flee to Sweden, among other places, where many were greeted with fear and hatred. You are an ignorant, drooling moron and you give pacifism an ugly name.
 
I'm not a patriot and I'm well aware of some Swedes xenophobia. However it's pure bullshit to proclaim that America has ever entered a war because they were caring for poor civilians. It's has always been about economy and the rich worlds welfare. You, shadowsource, might be a true humanitarian but you're country is NOT!
 
Pacifist said:
I'm not a patriot and I'm well aware of some Swedes xenophobia. However it's pure bullshit to proclaim that America has ever entered a war because they were caring for poor civilians. It's has always been about economy and the rich worlds welfare. You, shadowsource, might be a true humanitarian but you're country is NOT!

Look. Real simple, Pacifist.

I am a person who would hate to see this happen. I am a person who lined up at Edmonton, Alberta, a 90 km drive, to give blood.

I am a person who had, and still has, every intention of enlisting in the Canadian Military.

To The Americans.

Just remember. Justice at the end of a rifle is not justice.

I'm not saying not to kill Bin Ladin. All I'm saying is, drag him back, put him through the justice system, and then leave him out in the middle of New York City, with a tattoo on his forehead. "I did this."
 
shadow

"You are an ignorant, drooling moron and you give pacifism an ugly name."

Come on. Tell us how you really feel.

You left out "Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries."
 
miles said:
I can't wait for this answer. I'll bet anyone lunch he doesn't.

Easy bet. He would let the bomber in with the children (being careful to stay outside, himself), and after the bomb exploded explain it away as some poor misguided soul expressing his anger at the imperialist pigs. (Then call for US aid for the families of the victims.)
 
Pacifist said:
If the American people want the terror to stop they have got to force their government to stop terrorizing other people. Stop the violence now, please!

From The United States of America.

Thank you for your letter(s). Your continued pleas that America not "terrorize" and your implication(s) that America not retaliate against this attack on our soveriegnty has been assessed, and sent over to NATO, as this is not a primarily U.S. concern. Please address any future concerns to England, France, Spain, Israel, Canada, Mexico, Russia, Japan, Italy, Belgium, Portugal, Taiwan, and to every other civilized nation on earth which are about to engage in long, protracted war against those who aim to unseat ALL our governments and usurp ALL our ways of life and have vowed to treat private citizens as military targets and HAVE been engaged in this operation for many, many years.

Once again, please address all future concerns to: The Free World, Earth, Box 911.

Yours truly,

The United States of America
 
Thank you all

Hello all,

This is my first time to post. Truthfully, I rarely even read the forum. I jump immediately to the new story submissions. For that purpose, this is the best site I have found online.

My personal experiences are not the issue here. They are personal and will stay such.

Suffice to say, the misery of these past few days is made lighter by the words of support on this forum.

Thank you. Thank you all.

ps... Pacifist, you dont like your country? Cool. You dont like ours? Cool. Pick one you like, any country you like, anywhere and move there. Vote with your feet and tax dollars. Your whining about pacifism, while living in a country defended by the threat of violence, is the ultimate act of hypocrisy. But wait... you cant move to a country without a military to defend it, can you? They dont exist!!! Why? Because the bad guys dont behave in a civilized fashion. They LIKE pacifists. Easy victims.

Actually, the previous posts are right.

Fuck you is so much faster... and just as appropriate.

Fuck you, Pacifist. Fuck you.
 
Pacifist said:
I'm not a patriot and I'm well aware of some Swedes xenophobia. However it's pure bullshit to proclaim that America has ever entered a war because they were caring for poor civilians. It's has always been about economy and the rich worlds welfare. You, shadowsource, might be a true humanitarian but you're country is NOT!
Flattery will get you an answer. The US did not make war against Serbia for any conventional imperialist reasons. The darkest view you can place is that we did it to ensure the stability of a Europe that was being overrun with refugees, and whose native populations frighten us with their violent xenophobia. I supported Clinton's intervention enthusiastically, in part for humanitarian reasons, which were pretty fucking obvious to anyone with a heart and brain by then, and in part to help keep Europe's fascist parties from becoming too popular as Germans, French, Belgians, Austrian, etc. (not last: Swedes! My last night in Umea I watched a bartender leap over the bar to punch a Moroccan for talking with a Swedish woman!) grow whenever their nations have many foreigners to kick around. So yeah, my cynical reasons regarding Serbia had to do with protecting Swedes, in part, from the consequences of Serbian genocide and democracy from the racist reactions to those consequences. It was one of the first US miliary interventions I supported so enthusiastically. I guess that makes me not a humanitarian in your book. Go punch a Swedish racist.
 
A message from Stanley

We certainly told him, didn't we Ollie?" ''
 
Re: Thank you all

Daeda1us said:


Actually, the previous posts are right.

Fuck you is so much faster... and just as appropriate.

See? I tried to tell everyone that 4 pages ago. :D

"Fuck you" works fine - saves a lot of frustration.
 
Pacifist

I grew up in Denmark, yup thats the little country to your left. You know, the one you all go into and drink yourselves braindead drunk in.

Seriously though, I am not so sure you would be so pacifistic if it was your family and your friends, your country that had been hit like America was.

oh btw, historically sweden is the only country who has ever started a war for no other reason than invasion, that lasted a hundred years, Look it up din jaevlar dumskalle.

Just for the record.

I am ALL for a retaliation against those who have attacked a country in peace.
 
That's what we're trying to do, Pacifist - Stop The Violence. You want to talk violence? Murderers just killed thousands of innocent American citizens. There were entire families in those planes. Imagine you and your family huddled together, watching terrorists fly your plane into a building. The horror of it all is overwhelming.

No, America is not blameless. Every country has its baggage. But I think this is a piss poor time to jump on us about it. Those people in those planes and in those buildings - they were just regular people. The only difference between them and you is accident of birth. It could easily have been you or your friends & family. If it were, you would want comfort - not attacks - from your allies.

I'll tell you all now - I am sick to the teeth of everyone trying to turn this horrible, devastating situation to their political advantage. People from other countries carrying on about how we MADE this happen by our policies. But what is most hurtful is what I'm hearing from Americans. I turned on AM talk radio today and callers of nationally syndicated shows are throwing around words like "towel head" and "sand nigger", and talk about how all people with a certain set of political views are responsible for this act.

It saddens me to the core of my existence that at a time when we should be pulling together as a country, there are those who seek to further fracture us - who, instead of attacking the monsters who hijacked those planes, are attacking other Americans who have different skin or different views. To be attacking other Americans right now, regardless of their political stripe, is the height of cowardice and callousness.

I hope that others in other countries around the world will have the good sense to not throw this up in our faces at a time when we're all hurting. There will be a time for discussion, but now is not it. And I hope that we as Americans will have the good sense to blame those who are responsible, rather than try to exploit the deaths of thousands of people to further our own political agendas. I hope we will not use this as an excuse to harm Americans of Persian descent. I hope we will act like Americans, and will now be tricked into acting like monsters ourselves.

Let's pull together as Americans to make sure this never, ever happens again. Let's not allow those who seek to divide us for their own selfish reasons achieve their goal. And let's get through this united.
 
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