Strange? No...its not

[HisArpy]

so yer saying the right didnt do that with Biden or Hillary?

cmon...both parties are very petty when it comes to any sort of potential area to pick on

Biden's mental decline was OBVIOUS and didn't need anyone to manufacture a talking point about it. Or do you think that "we beat medicare" is something a mentally competent person would say at a debate? Slips and gaffs yes, but that was so obvious no one could say it was anything other than what it was.

And it wasn't the only time it happened.

Hillary had several public episodes where she collapsed and needed to be taken away by Secret Service in their specialized black van (ambulance).

Reagan's decline was carefully controlled and orchestrated to keep the public unaware.

But with Trump there's a new talking point every week exaggerating some minor flaw or imperfection to the size of Everest and proclaiming that it's the end of the world and that it's all MAGA's fault. Which is utter bullshit and you know it.

So, give it a rest.

 

[LeahWill]

so yer saying the right didnt do that with Biden or Hillary?

cmon...both parties are very petty when it comes to any sort of potential area to pick on

I wouldn't pin too much hope on common sense and even handedness when dealing with these two. They've "built a worldview where facts don’t exist unless they flatter their bias", to the extent that they can even ignore Trump's self confessed sexual assaults on women.

Which is some "worldview"...

 

[icanhelp1]

I find it odd that no one notices that they all run the same kind of story at the same time. Very odd that so many "journalists" and "media outlets" all conceive of the same idea simultaneously.

Why, it's a remarkable coincidence...

That's because they're not journalist, they're ricochet buoys in an expansive echo chamber.

 

[icanhelp1]

maybe we also shouldnt elect "old" men to run the country when there have clearly been ppl who have been younger and not having any sort of actual or debatable mental issues...on both sides of the fence. Doesnt matter if you like them or not in this case...

Welp, the salad pro wasn't one of them.

 

[icanhelp1]

White House Releases ‘Perfect’ Trump MRI Results, Shaming Democrats Who Spread Health Trouble Rumors​

Hannah Knudsen1 Dec 20254,258

The White House released the results of President Donald Trump’s latest MRI after failed vice presidential candidate Tim Walz, as well as members of the establishment media, called for its release.

The establishment media have obsessed about the results after Trump revealed in October that he had an MRI, which he said at the time came back “perfect.” This has been a sticking point for the left, and Gov. Walz even used it as a retort after Trump referred to him as “seriously retarded” for his immigration policies.

"part of President Trump’s comprehensive executive physical, advanced imaging was performed because men in his age group benefit from a thorough evaluation of cardiovascular and abdominal health. The purpose of this imaging is preventative, to identify any issues early, confirm overall health, and ensure the president maintains long term vitality and function. President Trump’s cardiovascular imaging was perfectly normal, no evidence of arterial narrowing, impairing blood flow or abnormalities in the heart or major vessels. The heart chambers are normal in size. The vessel walls appear smooth and healthy, and there are no signs of inflammation or clotting. Overall, his cardiovascular system shows excellent health. His abdominal imaging is also perfectly normal. All major organs appear very healthy and well perfused. Everything evaluated is functioning within normal limits with no acute or chronic concerns."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...g-democrats-who-spread-health-trouble-rumors/

It's time for our leftists to start pulling their hair out.

Please! Don't liter the PB with factual information!

 

[Rightguide]

Uh...no

In the case of Trump and his health...I mean even taking all the hilarious egocentric things he says and casting them aside, you can just look at him and say he isnt in the best of health. As for his cognitive ability, he has absolutely regressed from 2016 etc.
He can try to deny it and push out doctored files or get medical experts or the PR machine going to say he is in perfect health but its a load of crap.
So no, sorry, I dont believe he came back being in perfect health...physically, mentally, whatever.

That said, trust me, his health isnt why I why may want him out of office.
My point was simply that one cannot beat father time and many presidents decline after certain ages or incidents and its generally somewhat obvious as much as the WH may try to cover it up or have them not speak at certain times or at certain lengths and so on.
Trump is an enigma already because most of what he says rambles on, isnt germane to the initial point./question, etc so he "gets away with it" at times, when if it was a different politican speaking, everyone on both sides would be quite worried or call for his/her head.

heck, Biden quit the race after the debate because of his lengthy pauses and inability to respond partially due to all the rambling that Trump said and he didnt know if he should respond/refute Trump or answer the moderator's question(s). And the GOP jumped all over Biden's age/inability to respond properly.
Now that the tables are turned and Trump is showing signs of aging, the GOP/you and others on Lit cant seem to fathom or admit that your glorious leader might actually be declining or have had some sort of incident (stroke or otherwise) to cause some of the issues.

Trump isn’t “declining,” you’re just recycling the same wish-casting narrative the Left trots out every election cycle when their candidate is visibly falling apart. You’re judging Trump’s health by emotion, ignoring that the man is working a 12-hour day, flying nonstop all over the world, and verbally steamrolling every opponent in sight, something your supposedly “sharp” candidates couldn’t manage on their best day. Trump has always riffed, ad-libbed, and gone off-script; it’s his style, not a symptom, and pretending that this long-standing pattern is suddenly evidence of cognitive decline is just a lazy attempt to smuggle your political preferences in under the guise of medical concern.

 

[icanhelp1]

cmon, you know its true and are just stirring shit when you can because I am on the other side of the fence.
He may not have the cult-appeal like Trump, but I would guess that Vance would be your preferred person in the WH if not some other member of the GOP...
People didnt question W, Obama, Clinton, in terms of their mental health (disagreeing with their policies and actions is a different story), whereas Trump, Reagan, Biden etc it became obvious.

In 2028 he will be.

 

[icanhelp1]

Please spare us the historical revisionism. No one questioned W’s mental stability? Obama’s? Clinton’s? Come on. Every modern president has had their faculties, motives, and judgment scrutinized, because that’s what happens when you sit behind the Resolute Desk. The only difference now is that the media industrial complex decides whose stumbles get magnified and whose get buried and ignored, like Biden's.

I find it ironic that MSN hypocrite sharpshooters are now using Biden for target practice.

 

[Rightguide]

Again, you can say Obama or W "lost their minds" when it came to a policy but not "that doesnt even make sense" when it came to some of their speeches...sure, some gaffes may have been said "strategery" but not to this level.

I have no doubt W is laughing daily and all the "how ya like me now?!" memes and such are just...chef's kiss for his case.
W was not ideally qualified but he was a likeable guy.
Trump is neither.

You keep trying to launder your nostalgia for Bush as if “likable” were a substitute for competence, clarity, or, frankly, results. “Strategery” wasn’t a gaffe, it was an era. That administration produced an alphabet soup of disasters, from the Middle East to the mortgage market, but sure, let’s pretend his smirk and his fatherly charm somehow made him Demosthenes.

And Obama? The man was a walking thesaurus with a teleprompter dependency so strong the country held its breath every time the screen flickered. His hate for the country was palpable. But suddenly, Trump’s the only figure in American politics whose cadence gets dissected like a moon landing? Give us a break.

 

[icanhelp1]

I wouldn't pin too much hope on common sense and even handedness when dealing with these two. They've "built a worldview where facts don’t exist unless they flatter their bias", to the extent that they can even ignore Trump's self confessed sexual assaults on women.

Which is some "worldview"...

Facts are facts PERIOD!

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump isn’t “declining,” you’re just recycling the same wish-casting narrative the Left trots out every election cycle when their candidate is visibly falling apart. You’re judging Trump’s health by emotion, ignoring that the man is working a 12-hour day, flying nonstop all over the world, and verbally steamrolling every opponent in sight, something your supposedly “sharp” candidates couldn’t manage on their best day. Trump has always riffed, ad-libbed, and gone off-script; it’s his style, not a symptom, and pretending that this long-standing pattern is suddenly evidence of cognitive decline is just a lazy attempt to smuggle your political preferences in under the guise of medical concern.

It's retaliatory rhetoric based on emotion and lies.

 

[LilKitKat]

Trump isn’t “declining,” you’re just recycling the same wish-casting narrative the Left trots out every election cycle when their candidate is visibly falling apart. You’re judging Trump’s health by emotion, ignoring that the man is working a 12-hour day, flying nonstop all over the world, and verbally steamrolling every opponent in sight, something your supposedly “sharp” candidates couldn’t manage on their best day. Trump has always riffed, ad-libbed, and gone off-script; it’s his style, not a symptom, and pretending that this long-standing pattern is suddenly evidence of cognitive decline is just a lazy attempt to smuggle your political preferences in under the guise of medical concern.

Trust me, I am not concerned for his health. I hope he dies 30 seconds after I post this.

 

[LilKitKat]

You keep trying to launder your nostalgia for Bush as if “likable” were a substitute for competence, clarity, or, frankly, results. “Strategery” wasn’t a gaffe, it was an era. That administration produced an alphabet soup of disasters, from the Middle East to the mortgage market, but sure, let’s pretend his smirk and his fatherly charm somehow made him Demosthenes.

And Obama? The man was a walking thesaurus with a teleprompter dependency so strong the country held its breath every time the screen flickered. His hate for the country was palpable. But suddenly, Trump’s the only figure in American politics whose cadence gets dissected like a moon landing? Give us a break.

His hate for the country.
Thats a good one.

And nostalgia for Bush? 1. I was barely born and 2-I didnt even live in the country. So WTF!? I simply am comparing him as a president and person to say, Trump.
Some presidents are slimy one one or more levels...Clinton and Trump fit that.
Some are likeable as people if not presidents. W and Obama fit that.
Nothing more, or less.

 

[RoryN]

This belongs here:

Elephant in the room: self-loathing, closeted Deplorables externalizing their issues on the PB

https://forum.literotica.com/thread...externalizing-their-issues-on-the-pb.1645222/

 

[Rightguide]

It's retaliatory rhetoric based on emotion and lies.

Cognitive dissonance...mental conflict between beliefs and reality.

 

[Rightguide]

Trust me, I am not concerned for his health. I hope he dies 30 seconds after I post this.

My my, lots of emotional leakage there, LilKK: You don’t hope for the death of a man you’ve rationally dismissed; you hope for the death of a man who lives rent-free in your head and rearranges your pulse every time his name appears. What you’ve written is the psychology of impotence: a person so overwhelmed by someone else’s existence that the only imagined relief is their disappearance. That’s not analysis, it's obsession disguised as bravado.

 

[LilKitKat]

My my, lots of emotional leakage there, LilKK: You don’t hope for the death of a man you’ve rationally dismissed; you hope for the death of a man who lives rent-free in your head and rearranges your pulse every time his name appears. What you’ve written is the psychology of impotence: a person so overwhelmed by someone else’s existence that the only imagined relief is their disappearance. That’s not analysis, it's obsession disguised as bravado.

I wont shed a tear for him. All the trauma casued by him in one way or another...nope, wont shed a fucking tear.

 

[Rightguide]

His hate for the country.
Thats a good one.

And nostalgia for Bush? 1. I was barely born and 2-I didnt even live in the country. So WTF!? I simply am comparing him as a president and person to say, Trump.
Some presidents are slimy one one or more levels...Clinton and Trump fit that.
Some are likeable as people if not presidents. W and Obama fit that.
Nothing more, or less.

With even an ounce of rigor, your entire framework collapses the moment you examine it. You claim you’re not nostalgic for Bush because you “were barely born” and “didn’t live in the country,” yet you speak with the certainty of someone who thinks personal charm is a legitimate metric of presidential competence. That’s parasocial myth-making built on media impressions, instead of experience or policy outcomes. “Bush was likeable”? To you, from a distance, through a screen, fortified with 20 years of selective memory.

 

[Rightguide]

I wont shed a tear for him. All the trauma casued by him in one way or another...nope, wont shed a fucking tear.

Above we can see the scaffolding of illusions you've built to justify your own emotional dependency on hating Trump. The “trauma” you claim was “caused” by him is rarely trauma at all; it’s the psychological recoil of those whose worldview couldn’t survive contact with a reality they didn’t control. Hating Trump becomes a coping mechanism, a way to outsource your personal dissatisfaction to a cartoon villain. The intensity of your language gives it away: nobody who is genuinely at peace needs an effigy to burn. If we strip away the illusions, all that’s left are the reasons why you need Trump alive, if only to have someone to blame for all of those intellectual collisions with reality.

 

[LilKitKat]

With even an ounce of rigor, your entire framework collapses the moment you examine it. You claim you’re not nostalgic for Bush because you “were barely born” and “didn’t live in the country,” yet you speak with the certainty of someone who thinks personal charm is a legitimate metric of presidential competence. That’s parasocial myth-making built on media impressions, instead of experience or policy outcomes. “Bush was likeable”? To you, from a distance, through a screen, fortified with 20 years of selective memory.

I didnt say personal charm was a legitimate metric but that is a good try.
I simply said he was a likeable guy.
There is a big difference.

I dont agree with his policies or practicies, but he wasnt a racist or evil man. Not every person is qualified or capable to be President. He seemed like a good person overall, but the role was too big for him and Cheney pulled the strings regardless.

 

[HisArpy]

Trust me, I am not concerned for his health. I hope he dies 30 seconds after I post this.

WHAT IS IT with the Left's penchant for violence?

 

[LilKitKat]

WHAT IS IT with the Left's penchant for violence?

how is it violent? I didnt advocate for a violent death, I simply said I wont shed a tear when he does die and frankly, hope he does soon. It could easily be from a heart attack..or choking on his lies. I didnt ask for someone to shoot him.

 

[Rightguide]

how is it violent? I didnt advocate for a violent death, I simply said I wont shed a tear when he does die and frankly, hope he does soon. It could easily be from a heart attack..or choking on his lies. I didnt ask for someone to shoot him.

Lets see:

Explicit denial of violence.
Expression of ill will or hostile sentiment.
Hope for an early death.
Imagining causes of death, including violent metaphors.
Clarification against inciting violence.

This is LilKitKat's emotional version of a passive-aggressive fortune cookie, serving up death wishes with a side of “I’m not a monster, I swear!” It’s like she wants to roast someone to a crisp but keep a fire extinguisher handy just in case things get too heated. Somewhere deep down, she's yelling, “I hope you drop dead… but like, naturally. No funny business!” She's a classic case of lethal politeness.

 

[LilKitKat]

Lets see:

Explicit denial of violence.
Expression of ill will or hostile sentiment.
Hope for an early death.
Imagining causes of death, including violent metaphors.
Clarification against inciting violence.

This is LilKitKat's emotional version of a passive-aggressive fortune cookie, serving up death wishes with a side of “I’m not a monster, I swear!” It’s like she wants to roast someone to a crisp but keep a fire extinguisher handy just in case things get too heated. Somewhere deep down, she's yelling, “I hope you drop dead… but like, naturally. No funny business!” She's a classic case of lethal politeness.

 

[Rightguide]

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Easy there, it’s just a playful jab, not a kick in the butt.