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Reading the exact same arguments every time OSG posts about her relationship.
 
BiBunny said:
Reading the exact same arguments every time OSG posts about her relationship.
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Well her posts ARE supposed to be scary. What do you expect? (not even sure which thread she's posting on currently and I'm not going to search for it) I have my own theory on that one, but all I'll say here is meh, I don't read her posts anymore.
 
Parking garages at night.
Places designed for lot of people when empty, like empty schools, hotels and other places like that.
 
Cattypuss said:
People who use your name a lot when talking to you.
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Yeah! Or when someone you don't know very well seems to remember lots of personal details like your first pets name and your Moms birthday from a conversation that took place years ago...
 
Curious_in_Cali said:
Yeah! Or when someone you don't know very well seems to remember lots of personal details like your first pets name and your Moms birthday from a conversation that took place years ago...
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I'm kinda like that. Am I officially creepy now?
 
BiBunny said:
Reading the exact same arguments every time OSG posts about her relationship.
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Sorry, total hijack but I just had to say something.

Bunny, I’m going to step in here and defend the ‘newbs”. Those conversations happen over and over again for a reason.They happen because, more so than any other relationship I’ve read about here (at least those that have been vouched by other parties as ‘real’), the line between ‘consensual BDSM’ and ‘abusive relationship’ in OSG’s case is so fine as to be almost non-existent.

It took me a long time to get over my initial response to OSG’s postings, I still find some disturbing, and I still disagree with some of what she puts forth. But what ultimately convinced me to accept the relationship was that I realized this was OSG’s choice. A conscious choice. She may not always be happy in her situation, but she has made it clear that she is happy with her choice.

I don’t blame new people for falling into the same old arguments with OSG. In fact, I believe that OSG is very intelligent and should take some responsibility up front. She is smart enough to know what’s going to happen in these scenarios, and I think she’s smart enough to know that people will interpret her situation as abusive. If it were me, I would explain to these newcomers – long before the argument or discussion starts – that they are going to find my words shocking but that they need to understand that the life I lead is my choice (and that choice was not made under threat or coercion).

It also helps to put yourself in the shoes of the new person, to comprehend just what OSG’s world looks like from the outside. Imagine you had a daughter or sister that you loved and then they hooked up with a man who then ordered them to sever all contact with you and everyone else in her life. What would you think? More importantly, how would you, as a mother or sister, feel? What if you then learned that your daughter or sister was in the hospital because this man had deliberately broken her arm or ribs or forced her to have an abortion, or whatever else. Would you think, “Well, at least she’s found a place where she’s comfortable and it is her choice after all”, or would you be outraged and/or sad ?

I know my dad and sister would have been heartbroken if I had been in that situation. I can't even contemplate how horrible that would have been for them.

And, from a BDSM perspective, where consent is critical, what about those people who suffer because of this man’s actions – the family and friends who were abandoned, the medical staff who sure as hell don’t need to deal with the fallout from more domestic violence, the bystanders who might see him slap her in a restaurant (an example, I don't know specifics but I do recall reading about something similar) or wherever else he might mete out punishment. Where is their consent?

That is what new people see, that is what they react to.

I’m not attacking OSG, don’t get me wrong. To each their own. Nor am I attacking you, Bunny. I just want to make something clear. OSG's life and mindset will always shock and disturb new people. And I hope it always does because there are actual victims of abuse out there whose lives look EXACTLY the same as hers, people who do need someone to help them out and who would welcome an outsider stepping in to say, “This is wrong”.

/hijack
 
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seela said:
I'm kinda like that. Am I officially creepy now?
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Not creepy as a being at all, no. But I have to admit that if you were to randomly tell me my moms birthday when I have never mentioned it that it would be kinda scary. :)

I have this one very dear friend that is also this way. She obviously has a photographic memory and EVERY time she can praddle off the birth dates and life details of not only my immediate family but also some of my extended family that we have discusses MAYBE twice my entire friendship with her... it startles me. Especially since I get to talk to her MAYBE 3-4 times a year these days. She is not creepy as a being at all but the experience of her mental database can be at times. I don't know... maybe it is also partly that I actually struggle with memory that it unnerves me as well... but I can't be the only one?
 
Curious_in_Cali said:
Yeah! Or when someone you don't know very well seems to remember lots of personal details like your first pets name and your Moms birthday from a conversation that took place years ago...
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I had this a couple of months ago with a taxi driver. He said "I picked you up in autumn 2009 to take you to the station for a train to [correct town] - you were going to a business meeting and you [correct occupation, even down to my specialism within my field] for a living and you work from home but your employer is based in [correct town]". More than usually creepy when said person knows where you live cos they have just picked you up from your house.
 
A box that has glowing stars and plays womb sounds. When wielded by a young baby in the crib beside you in a pitch black room its freaky and eerie :(
 
Keroin said:
Sorry, total hijack but I just had to say something.

Bunny, I’m going to step in here and defend the ‘newbs”. Those conversations happen over and over again for a reason.They happen because, more so than any other relationship I’ve read about here (at least those that have been vouched by other parties as ‘real’), the line between ‘consensual BDSM’ and ‘abusive relationship’ in OSG’s case is so fine as to be almost non-existent.

It took me a long time to get over my initial response to OSG’s postings, I still find some disturbing, and I still disagree with some of what she puts forth. But what ultimately convinced me to accept the relationship was that I realized this was OSG’s choice. A conscious choice. She may not always be happy in her situation, but she has made it clear that she is happy with her choice.

I don’t blame new people for falling into the same old arguments with OSG. In fact, I believe that OSG is very intelligent and should take some responsibility up front. She is smart enough to know what’s going to happen in these scenarios, and I think she’s smart enough to know that people will interpret her situation as abusive. If it were me, I would explain to these newcomers – long before the argument or discussion starts – that they are going to find my words shocking but that they need to understand that the life I lead is my choice (and that choice was not made under threat or coercion).

It also helps to put yourself in the shoes of the new person, to comprehend just what OSG’s world looks like from the outside. Imagine you had a daughter or sister that you loved and then they hooked up with a man who then ordered them to sever all contact with you and everyone else in her life. What would you think? More importantly, how would you, as a mother or sister, feel? What if you then learned that your daughter or sister was in the hospital because this man had deliberately broken her arm or ribs or forced her to have an abortion, or whatever else. Would you think, “Well, at least she’s found a place where she’s comfortable and it is her choice after all”, or would you be outraged and/or sad ?

I know my dad and sister would have been heartbroken if I had been in that situation. I can't even contemplate how horrible that would have been for them.

And, from a BDSM perspective, where consent is critical, what about those people who suffer because of this man’s actions – the family and friends who were abandoned, the medical staff who sure as hell don’t need to deal with the fallout from more domestic violence, the bystanders who might see him slap her in a restaurant (an example, I don't know specifics but I do recall reading about something similar) or wherever else he might mete out punishment. Where is their consent?

That is what new people see, that is what they react to.

I’m not attacking OSG, don’t get me wrong. To each their own. Nor am I attacking you, Bunny. I just want to make something clear. OSG's life and mindset will always shock and disturb new people. And I hope it always does because there are actual victims of abuse out there whose lives look EXACTLY the same as hers, people who do need someone to help them out and who would welcome an outsider stepping in to say, “This is wrong”.

/hijack
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I understand what you're saying. And I'm not going to say whether it's right or it's wrong because I don't know. I'm just saying it's annoying as hell. :p
 
Curious_in_Cali said:
I have this one very dear friend that is also this way. She obviously has a photographic memory and EVERY time she can praddle off the birth dates and life details of not only my immediate family but also some of my extended family that we have discusses MAYBE twice my entire friendship with her... it startles me. Especially since I get to talk to her MAYBE 3-4 times a year these days. She is not creepy as a being at all but the experience of her mental database can be at times. I don't know... maybe it is also partly that I actually struggle with memory that it unnerves me as well... but I can't be the only one?
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That sounds a lot like me, but I've learned not to use my superpower a lot. My specific brand of supermemory-ness is numbers, so I remember a lot of phone numbers and birthdays, even of those people I've never been too close with. I still remember the phone number to a certain hospital archive room, because I had to call there once, and the line was busy the first time, and two repeats is pretty much what it takes for a set of numbers to be seared into my memory forever.

It is annoying, though, to remember all those phone numbers. I often have problems with telling apart which number is current, which one is old. For example, I remember 4 phone numbers for my dad's work place, and it wasn't once or twice growing up that I called the wrong number only to be told that my dad doesn't work there.

And then there are the SSNs of my friends and family. I know so many of them that it isn't even funny. It's a good thing I'm not a criminal, I guess.
 
Seela, of you haven't already, you probably should look out the Borges short story "Funes el Memorioso" :eek: [/hijack]
 
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